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Ken
on 2001-10-20 00:08 [#00043809]
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A while back I saw them play live....a friend who got me into Aphex was going so....... It had to be one of the most pointless waste's of £12 ever....two guys hunched over a pair of lap tops, no lights, no acknowledgement of the audience...no enterainment, no point... a few times I thought they were having technical problems.. but I was told that, that was a track....then a week or so ago I saw their new album in the library ... hired it out of curiosity, just to make sure.....some of the tracks sounded like there was dust on the cd....maybe I'm a bit old fashioned.....but if that's cutting edge....I'd prefere the Rolling Stones any fucking day
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pyroglif
on 2001-10-20 00:17 [#00043810]
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i heard a few of there trax and i didnt think much to them either
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blip
on 2001-10-20 00:17 [#00043811]
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yep your old fashioned.
YOu can't go to an Autechre venue and expect a big Rolling Stones like concert display .. their art form is music not "Entertainment".
And just so you know, Aphex doesn't really do more than hunch over his laptop at gigs .. so !
May as well stick to your Coldplay and Limp Bizkit Concerts, that should keep you entertained! :)
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easyjesus©
from who knows where... on 2001-10-20 00:24 [#00043812]
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what cd of their's did you check out? if your starting out on them i would suggest tri repetae, it's a pretty straight forward album. I can't really get into their newer stuff.
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blip
on 2001-10-20 00:33 [#00043814]
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personally i find confield quite refreshing, although admittedly it is quite a difficult record to come to terms with. LP5 and EP7 I think is the pinnacle of Autechre ... but the earlier stuff like Tri, Incunabula, Amber and such, are perhaps more suitable starting places -
you do have to ease yourself into it .. and with an attitude that is looking whether the cd sounds like it is skipping or so / or how it compares to "sticky fingers" - probably won't allow one to appreciate autechre to its full potential .. or so.
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Quoth
from Berlin on 2001-10-20 03:11 [#00043822]
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through all of this Confield discussion, I still haven't found the time yet to go listen to it... I have not d/l'ed mp3's from Ae... lol... should I take the time to go out and buy it, or listen to it first w/mp3's?
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rudheismaboir
on 2001-10-20 03:49 [#00043827]
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autechre surpasses most peoples' mental ability to hear sound on microscopic timescales. the first time i hear a new album, i don't like it but then patterns begin to emerge. pure genius shit.
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ung-youzx
on 2001-10-20 04:10 [#00043832]
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may as well buy it .. sort of won't work as well if it is mp3 ? that's just my opinion.
it is worth having as cd - quite cool cover art also.
but then if you tight - you tight baby
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rudheismaboir
on 2001-10-20 04:36 [#00043837]
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yea you definitely have to have it on disc or there's no way you'll hear everything that's going on.
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DblHeLX
from moon on 2001-10-20 04:58 [#00043842]
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haha , have you seen AFX live?? he practicly hides behind a podium!!! autechre is great in my oppinion but whatever you think is justifiable by me.
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-a
from --- on 2001-10-20 07:46 [#00043881]
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You have to try to understand what Autechre is trying to provoke in their music/sounds. They are trying to capture the complexity of architecture/engineering through their tracks. They are trying to show people that there is beauty behind the sterile nature of mechanics, engineering, architecture, and mathematics. The name Autechre, sounds like the word Architecture.
One man can look at a piece of paper full of mathematical graphs and think, "This is amazing." While another man can look at the same graph and think, "What the hell is this? Just some random bullshit." Try to understand the complexity of their work. Confield (in my opinion) is the best Autechre album. EP 7 is also amazing.
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rediv i d er
on 2001-10-20 07:53 [#00043883]
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in my opinion some of the stuff on confield has gotten so complex that it's almost organic and mushy. like at the most basic level of biology, everything operates on rigid physical principles, but when the "struts" "crossbeams" (continuing the architectural metaphor) are small enough and you have enough of them, you can get a really organic feel to it.
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Hoo-key
from Its a secret on 2001-10-20 14:33 [#00043920]
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LP5 is a monument in music.
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Ken
on 2001-10-20 15:05 [#00043928]
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That's a good point about maths a_ I hate Maths..... but as a fan of Jazz and Classical music I can appreciate complexity.......but I basically like a good tune whether it's complex or simple...and it one thing Authecre seem to lack ...a tune
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od
from perth on 2001-10-20 15:12 [#00043929]
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im not autechres biggest fan, but there is more than tunes to music, ya know what i mean?
music is sposed to have a "feel" to it, carry an emotion, i think thats the "thing" to music.
i dunno, this is just how i think of it.
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rF
from purf on 2001-10-20 15:25 [#00043931]
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like mr dust said above, music doesn't have to have drums, bass, melody to be music, in my opinion music is something that is interesting/fun/nice to listen to... and it just seems that confield is a very interesting album, however i do prefer lp5 because it is interesting/nice and also challenging to listen to (ie. 777; fold4,wrap5; under BOAC)..
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Hoo-key
from Its a secret on 2001-10-20 16:36 [#00043942]
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Confield sucked except for Uvivol.
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Not Him
on 2001-10-20 21:23 [#00044003]
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Autechre manipulate sound -- that's it. They aren't mapping out the inner-workings of human consciousness. They're making tunes that sound good to them.
As far as Confield goes, you would be better off pirating a copy of Opcode Max. With a little practice, you'll be banging out your own wanky doodle algorithmic Autechre tunes in no time.
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Tajl_z0rz
on 2001-10-20 21:33 [#00044004]
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im a huge autechre fan and what the HELL are you talking about "not music"
just be quiet
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noisegenerator
on 2001-10-20 21:46 [#00044007]
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not a very constructive post.
ken, you're not going to 'get' autechre on first listen - there's too much going on in the music for that, and it's not designed for instant gratification. but the effect after numerous plays is far more rewarding than a lot of other music. a singles band like the rolling stones is about as far from a fair comparison as you can make. if you're bothered, try stepping up to autechre with, say, boards of canada.
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-a
from --- on 2001-10-20 23:11 [#00044023]
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There's a whole sub-culture that is obsessed with sound, and sound manipulation. Sound manipulation in my opinion is an art. Some will of course think of it as pretentious, but it's far from it. Comparing Autechre to the Rolling Stones would be like comparing a flower to a car; absolutely no relation. Autechre is music. If someone were just being introduced to Autechre I would not recommend Confield as an introduction. Try Amber first, and then EP 5, 7, etc. Confield is for hardcore fans who truly love Autechre, and understand the complexity of their work.
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Ken
on 2001-10-21 00:49 [#00044039]
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Sorry folks but I still think it easier to manipulate sound than it is to write a cool sounding tune....especially with today\'s software..... interesting sound manipulation for me would be Lifeforms or Dead Cities by FSOL.... it\'s ambient and experimential in terms of sound but it still sounds musical
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easyjesus©
from who knows where... on 2001-10-21 01:08 [#00044041]
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i still say listen to "tri repetae" with headphones, when i first listened to it i too was a little put off. but then listen to it a couple more times and you will see that there are melodies and such. this album is not really "sound manipulation" it's more "melodic percussion". fsol remind me of the orb.
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Bogus
on 2001-10-21 03:33 [#00044053]
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I don't really thin autechre's music has that much tought into it...
to me it's 2 guys jamming with whatever sounds they can pull oput of their machines.
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LeMoN
from penisville on 2001-10-21 06:08 [#00044069]
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Some of their music can sound overly pretentious at times, but whenever I start to think negatively of them I remember such genius compositions as "Pen Expers", "Piezo", "Eggshell", "444", "Arch Carrier", and others...
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nacmat
on 2002-11-21 02:31 [#00450120]
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well... what can I say. I love autechre, but I understand some people can hate them... anyway we dont normaly see such a radical disliking towards AE nowadays (in the MB)
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phunqie
on 2002-11-21 03:19 [#00450143]
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hahahahah!
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princo
from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2002-11-21 03:22 [#00450144]
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Ken talks Krap! :P
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glass_eater
from a blind nerves area (Switzerland) on 2002-11-21 04:16 [#00450168]
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my gos all those non-avatars saying that autechre is bullshit while im awakening....!
it does hurt........... ill just LMAO to respond... :P
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glass_eater
from a blind nerves area (Switzerland) on 2002-11-21 04:31 [#00450177]
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read my lips : ae is perfect venetian snares is impossible !
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ka
on 2002-11-21 04:47 [#00450184]
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different strokes for different folks. When I first heard autechre's music, it blew me away. I downloaded every track I could find and then bought all of their albums. I'm a filmmaker and they've been a big inspiration for my visuals.
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euphonicfilter
from illadelphia (United States) on 2002-11-21 07:09 [#00450338]
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i think some people have entirely too much time of their hands
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euphonicfilter
from illadelphia (United States) on 2002-11-21 07:09 [#00450340]
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ON their hands - jeesh
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