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BlatantEcho
from All over (United States) on 2003-01-13 19:49 [#00513287]
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Have a couple of CDs I want to rip to mp3s, and dunno what program to use.
Don't want to use MusicMatch, but whatever, what programs do you guys use, preferably free download :)
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-01-13 19:51 [#00513289]
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i use iTunes, but thats mac only. it does good work, i've never gotten a glurp.
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aron
from saskatoon (Canada) on 2003-01-13 19:51 [#00513290]
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i use freerip cant remember the url though i think you can find it at download.com
uhh, it's free
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BlatantEcho
from All over (United States) on 2003-01-13 19:53 [#00513292]
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oooh, what about Easy CD-DA Extractor 5.0.6
C|Net has it rated high, hum, more input
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Signal
from Palatine (United States) on 2003-01-13 19:57 [#00513295]
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i use musicmatch jukebox. you can rip mp3's up to a 320bit rate if im not mistaken. . .its nice(for pc)
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2003-01-13 19:59 [#00513297]
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Exact Audio Copy is the thing to use. It''s free and it works really well and it has no spyware or bullshit. I generally use it to extract to plain wav files then encode them myself with Lame or Ogg Vorbis.
If you want to make Oggs there's a great drag and drop interface... you just drag your wav files onto the fish. If you want to make mp3s Razorlame is the shit.
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BlatantEcho
from All over (United States) on 2003-01-13 20:01 [#00513300]
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d/ling now, thanks fleet
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BlatantEcho
from All over (United States) on 2003-01-13 20:07 [#00513307]
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good call mouse, this is a sweet prog, ripping CDs now :) thanx m8
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2003-01-13 20:07 [#00513308]
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make oggs. They sound better than mp3s at the same filesize.
use quality setting 6 for CD quality tracks unless it's death metal - then you want quality 8.
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Inverted Whale
from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2003-01-13 20:11 [#00513312]
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If you want any sort of hardware support, don't make oggs. :-)
But they are technically superior to mp3s in many ways.
The best lossy compression format would probably be musepack, though.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2003-01-13 20:14 [#00513318]
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By hardware support, perverted whale means like an mp3 player or boombox that plays mp3s.
But Winamp plays oggs so I'm happy.
I was fucking outraged when I discovered the mp3 boombox I got wouldn't play VBR mp3s.
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BlatantEcho
from All over (United States) on 2003-01-13 20:22 [#00513323]
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123 CD to Mp3 Ripper 1.67 is it
fuck that other stuff, aside from asking you to buy it all the time, it is sweetness
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Refund
from Melbourne (Australia) on 2003-01-13 20:24 [#00513325]
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http://cdex.sf.net
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BlatantEcho
from All over (United States) on 2003-01-13 20:27 [#00513329]
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oh fuck all these non free progs, even my 123 CD to Mp3 Ripper only lets you get the first five tracks without paying
fortunetly, my Beethoven/Mozart CDs only include 5 tracks per CD, YEAH!
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Refund
from Melbourne (Australia) on 2003-01-13 20:36 [#00513336]
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sorry,.. broken link there
http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/cdexos/cdex_150b9_enu.ex e?use_mirror=belnet
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Inverted Whale
from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2003-01-13 21:17 [#00513362]
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Like fleetmouse said, use RazorLame or WinLame to make your mp3s.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2003-01-13 21:26 [#00513369]
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And when using lame use the option:
--preset standard
This will encode using the best settings unless you have very good ears and very good equipment, in which case use:
--preset extreme
The extreme preset is definitely what you want to use for extremely fuzzy distorted music with lots of crunchy trebly detail. That way you hear every ugly snarl.
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Refund
from Melbourne (Australia) on 2003-01-13 21:26 [#00513370]
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use ther program I put the link to,.. it's the best, free program you'll find to make mp3's
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Inverted Whale
from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2003-01-13 21:32 [#00513375]
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Yes, --alt-preset standard is good enough for about 98% of my CDs.
There are a few oddball CDs like Autechre's Anvil Vapre that don't sound right even when encoded with 320 Kbps --alt-preset insane, but they are rare.
Second Bad Vilbel is like a spit in the face of the mp3 format. :-)
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2003-01-13 21:41 [#00513382]
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O yeah eh?
:: rises to the challenge ::
I'm gonna see if ogg vorbis does justice to that track.
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bryce_berny
from chronno (Canada) on 2003-01-13 21:42 [#00513383]
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exact audio copy + razorlame or ogg = special treaty weats :D
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Inverted Whale
from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2003-01-13 21:46 [#00513387]
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ogg can't encode the track well either. I'm not sure if it's better or worse, but it is bad in a different way.
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Dolleater
from Afrika Bambaataa on 2003-01-13 21:52 [#00513391]
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c'mon, they all use the same encoders. lame.enc, bL0.m3.dic, kzm.ya55, or S0k.d33z.n0ts.
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Refund
from Melbourne (Australia) on 2003-01-13 21:53 [#00513392]
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do a search for this plug in:
60,f0|<.yr.s31.fffoo1.lmc
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2003-01-13 22:07 [#00513405]
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You know what? Ogg at quality 8 is pretty damn close. I can't really hear a difference when I a/b the CD and the Ogg. And that's with an M-audio card, an old Marantz amplifier and Grado headphones.
Maybe the noise at the beginning sounds a bit more spacious or detailed on the CD. It's hard to tell.
The bitrate goes as high as 470 at times. But the file is 23 megs, which is about what I'd expect a Lame VBR file to weigh in at.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2003-01-13 22:11 [#00513407]
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Naw, scratch that. Preset standard would be smaller.
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skyfarmer
from a bigger, more complex and tun (Russia) on 2003-01-13 22:13 [#00513408]
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If ya want 100%, forget everything you heard.
use EAC. Exact Audio Copy.
it's like LAME for mp3encoders, EAC for extractors.
'choice of the pros', as Dwld called it.
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Inverted Whale
from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2003-01-13 22:14 [#00513409]
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Both --api and ogg with a high q are pretty good. I wouldn't notice unless I was paying attention.
Listen carefully when the beat begins. There is a very high-frequency tone above the music. This gets pretty mangled up.
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Dolleater
from Afrika Bambaataa on 2003-01-13 22:16 [#00513411]
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f0.0k.U.G.33.k5.0 is a good encoder as well.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2003-01-13 22:22 [#00513414]
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Are you talking about the slight sound that sounds like a hiss of escaping air or sik rubbing against itself?
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Inverted Whale
from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2003-01-13 22:25 [#00513418]
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I'm not sure. My headphones don't even go that high and I can't play it on the regular stereo. I'm pretty sure my family wouldn't like being woken up by Second Bad Vilbel.
But yeah, probably.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2003-01-13 22:30 [#00513421]
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ooo wait, later there's this really high sound like a cicada, like a vibrating metal reed in the back of my skull. It chirps a bit.
Is that it?
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Duble0Syx
from Columbus, OH (United States) on 2003-01-13 22:37 [#00513423]
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Anyone want to tell the size difference between the two lame setting discused above?
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2003-01-13 22:42 [#00513426]
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preset standard comes out about the same size as a 192 k mp3, depending on how much detail is in the music. preset extreme is more likely to be 20% of the size of the uncompressed wav, like a 256k CBR file but better sounding.
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Inverted Whale
from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2003-01-13 22:42 [#00513427]
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I can't listen to the track in high-fidelity right now. The sound is at about the 20 second mark.
Duble0syx: which settings? --alt-preset standard is about 192 Kbps and extreme about 256 Kbps on average.
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Duble0Syx
from Columbus, OH (United States) on 2003-01-13 22:43 [#00513429]
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I've been debating on discontinuing my mp3pro collection and re-ripping back to regular mp3's. At least my AFX collection anyway. So how much bigger is the file size on lame preset extreme versus standard?
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Duble0Syx
from Columbus, OH (United States) on 2003-01-13 22:43 [#00513431]
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Nevermind the last part of my last post...
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Inverted Whale
from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2003-01-13 22:46 [#00513433]
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extreme will be about 25% bigger, on average, then standard. So a 4 MB track would be about 5 MB.
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