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Do any of you know who Stanislaw Lem is? He's the biggest sci-fi writer of the century. I wanna know if you people have any idea.... why am I bringing up the subj?.. Soderbergh has done this shameful ridiculosity called the screenplay of Lem's 'Solaris'... Solaris is the story about that sentient ocean-planet and people who try to set up some contact with the uncomprehensible thing. Soderbergh is an idiot. 1. He made a love drama out of it.. well, nothing to be ashamed of, but well why call the goddamn movie 'Solaris' then 2. The pale slim cynic guy dr.Sartorius... HE MADE HIM A WOMAN! A FUCKING BLACK WOMAN!!! No problem with rac- or sexism, but WTF?! Is it a political correctness thing?! They would accuse him of kukluxklanity if he had only white people in the movie. Fuck Soderbergh! |
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I havnt seen the original, nor read the book (although I REALLY want to) but I did see the new version. I must say I LOVED it. I cant comment on the whole love thing, but to my knowledge, the original is also about love. as far as the changing of the race/sex of the Dr.... I read in an interveiw, that he wanted to balance out the cast... instead of having 3 guys and one girl, he wanted a more stable feeling... so it wasnt like the guys were dominating. Something to that extent... but anyways, I loved the new movie, and I LOVED the score. Sorry if it let you down... |
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*and being black had nothing to do with it. He had worked with that actress before, and she was exactly what he was looking for characterwise. |
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they really did that?!? i call blasphemy on this! :(( |
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i read all stanislaw lem!! it's a shame!! and i agree, he's the most important sci.fi writer of 20th century |
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i still loved it :P |
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no, the original is not about love, it's about man and nature and the ways man interact and try to understand nature and how the attempts fail. lem uses sci-fi as a means for showing the reader that human perception is weak and can be confused easily. |
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hmmm well, what can you do. just try and appriciate this new one for what it is? a love story |
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yeah, and call it solaris - remake for mentally engaged a film can never exactly replace a book (neither can a book replace a film), but if the film misses the point (and one of the main points are the fears of satorius) than there's no need for the film. they also made a 'biography' of Wiles, the mathematician and left out his love affairs, for the 'american market'. fuck that. |
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such bitterness ill overlook that direct insult to me |
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whatever |
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indeed |
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solaris - remake for mentally engaged lol mate that was precise Zeus, yes of course you can like the new version, but it's a shame to call it "Solaris", as its point is MUCH different from the original. BTW, the Tarkowsky film is great, but it avoids Lem's theme too, though not as much and not such a way as in Soderbergh's 'Solaris: The Politically Correct Planet' version. Tarkowsky did a mindblasting film, no matter the difference between book and his vision of it (which is a tiny one), and I didn't particularly like the new appearance of the "love story" element with Clooney and stuff... I'm sorry if I'm too rude on the comments, but I really think it's a blasphemy! quote: -Lem will turn in his grave! -He isn't dead yet -He WILL BE, when he sees that! |
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yes fuck him btw i love stanislas lem :) |
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my favourite Lem's novel is "Mask"... about the machine created to assasinate some man, and was supposed to get in love with him as a beautiful woman etc |
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i loved ijon tichy memories |
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the best one is 'the futurological congress' or whatever it might be called in english. a mindblowing novel!! |
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soderbergh shall burn in hell i love lem the star diaries are so essential. i found the matrix idea in it and so much more, almost any philosophical question or sci-fi film is included in his works. its a shame somebody makes movies of it, turning away from the main theme or "writing it different"... |
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wait, the Mask is not my fav at all it's my father's the Diaries thing is the ancestor of Douglas Adams's tHHGttG ! |
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