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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2002-12-29 12:39 [#00494451]
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What if the being you theists are praying to really isn't God, but just a demiurge who thinks he's God?
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-12-29 12:42 [#00494452]
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blasphemy
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2002-12-29 12:57 [#00494454]
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Nonsense. It's perfectly orthodox gnosticism.
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-12-29 13:01 [#00494458]
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well first off, you need to define your terms. are you referring to Jesus Christ or God (aka Yahweh aka Allah aka the one true god blah blah blah.. it's all slang for the same thang)? to believe in God is to believe he created the earth and every living thing, so there's no way "God" can be a demiurge. now Jesus Christ, who was both man and god, you could debate whether or not He is a demiurge. obviously i disagree, but at least that debate makes sense.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2002-12-29 13:13 [#00494462]
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Whether you see God as a single unit or split him along the perforations into father son and holy spirit is irrelevant.
The point is, maybe he (they?) only thinks he's the Big Guy.
Maybe in the middle of some blacked out drunken bender he hardly remembers, he cut diplomatic ties with the head office and went rogue.
I mean, what if there's no way of going over his head to know for sure?
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-12-29 13:18 [#00494465]
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no it doesn't make any sense because He isn't tangible. while God is "everywhere" it's not like He (the Father) roamed the earth, crashing parties and chatting up the ladies of the night. that was Jesus. your discussion would make slight sense if you were to disassociate Jesus from God the Father (though they're one and the same), but you can't lump God himself in with this because He resides in heaven. it's believed very few people have spoken to Him, and obviously those would be very private conversations ;) so it's not like there's this guy out there calling himself "God", which would be a prerequisite for this discussion.
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BILE
from São Paulo (Brazil) on 2002-12-29 13:31 [#00494473]
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What if God was one of us? *rimshot*
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-12-29 13:34 [#00494476]
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what if God were Jesus Jones?
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2002-12-29 13:35 [#00494480]
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so who's that geezer with a long grey beard who sits on a cloud then?
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BILE
from São Paulo (Brazil) on 2002-12-29 13:37 [#00494482]
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you mean the crazy drunken pedophile? oh don't mind him!
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TonePu5her
from lincoln !UK! (United Kingdom) on 2002-12-29 13:37 [#00494483]
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Thats me.
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-12-29 13:38 [#00494485]
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i see you've met my grandfather...
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Anus_Presley
on 2002-12-29 13:54 [#00494500]
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Jesus was God aswell. :?
[note the capital letterrs]
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jupitah
from Minneapolis (United States) on 2002-12-29 13:58 [#00494503]
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i smell manflesh!
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-12-29 14:04 [#00494505]
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God = The Father, The Son, & The Holy Spirit. ie: God, Jesus, Holy Ghost.
i went to religious school for 12 years.. lutheran and catholic. ironically i'm neither! good education though. it's not all pro-lutheran or pro-catholic brainwashing as one might think. well, it is at first, but then they drop it.
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2002-12-29 14:20 [#00494507]
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religion is the most common form of brainwashing
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-12-29 14:25 [#00494509]
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i think television has eclipsed that by now, don't you think?
when i walk among "The Common People" i'm not thinking, damn, RELIGION has got these zombies shook! if you haven't noticed, religiousness has been on the decline for several decades. god is in the tv now, not the sky.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2002-12-29 15:44 [#00494568]
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so it's not like there's this guy out there calling himself "God", which would be a prerequisite for this discussion.
I thought Exodus 20 pretty much spelled it out... He's obviously convinced he's the Big Guy and he wants us to be convinced too.
Draw a circle. Label it "us". That's the earth and the universe and the timespace continuum. That's what Yahweh is supposed to have created.
Now draw a larger circle around it. Label it "heaven". That's God the father, the son and the holy spirit, all the angels and their pews, Jehovah's gardeners, plumbers, cosmic engineers, stock clerks in the soul warehouse, and all the other stuff in his domain that we don't usually see.
Now draw a larger circle around that. Label it with a question mark. That is perhaps where the REAL God is, and maybe he's an even older man with an even whiter beard, or maybe he's a squid eating dough in a polyethylene bag. Even better, label this circle "Fast 'n' Bulbous", got me?
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God
from heaven, he's that guy who beli on 2002-12-29 16:02 [#00494581]
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once and for all: i DO exist
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DaWeeze
from WANTED IN 16 STATES! on 2002-12-29 16:06 [#00494585]
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God is God...God is God...
;)
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2002-12-29 16:08 [#00494589]
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god is bulbous also tapered
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2002-12-29 16:09 [#00494591]
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Listen mate, strange Gods lying about in messageboards distributing revelations is no basis for a system of theology.
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2002-12-29 16:10 [#00494596]
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sorry, i forgot the "lol"
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2002-12-29 16:13 [#00494599]
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Tapered? I'm sorry, a holy squid in a fitted shirt, that's just crass. Maybe in a zippered pullover.
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God
from heaven, he's that guy who beli on 2002-12-29 16:13 [#00494600]
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i shall forgive you.
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God
from heaven, he's that guy who beli on 2002-12-29 16:13 [#00494601]
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i gotta deal with the devil now. bye folks
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2002-12-29 16:17 [#00494603]
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*waits for god to post a link to his website*
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2002-12-29 16:17 [#00494604]
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FINISH HIM
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2002-12-29 16:29 [#00494610]
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EARTHLEAKAGE YOU WILL DISPENSE A "LOL"
I REQUEST IT
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2002-12-29 16:45 [#00494620]
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kevin godley & lol creme
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2002-12-29 16:50 [#00494623]
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lol cremes are the best... hint: push a thumb in the underside to see what flavor you're getting.
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Mickey Mouse
from The Moon on 2002-12-29 18:24 [#00494659]
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no way, NAS IS NOT WRONG!
NAS IS GOD'S SON!
"MADE YOU LOOK"
I guess that would made Nas jesus then huh?
neato!
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princo
from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2002-12-30 02:07 [#00494944]
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GOD IS DEAD...........
and no one cares. :P
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Mickey Mouse
from The Moon on 2002-12-30 10:21 [#00495332]
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No way dood, he posts here on this message board evidently.
and I met this homeless man a while back who said he was god..... but he looked more like jesus to me, minus the booze and pee stains on his pants. I gave him 5 bucks and told him to bless me, and he shook my hand and said "bless you my son", so does that make me jesus?
wooooozle wooosie weeeee
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2002-12-30 10:34 [#00495334]
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but he looked more like jesus to me, minus the booze and pee stains on his pants.
You know, there's two ways of reading that...
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God
from heaven, he's that guy who beli on 2002-12-30 11:52 [#00495409]
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due to so much misbelief god has decided to set some things straight:
1.There is only one, living and true God.
2.god kicks ass
3.god knows the secrets of html
4.phobiazero is not god. (there still are doubts about that)
5.god does not want to offend anyone, he's a nice guy.
6.god created an account for the purpose of posting the truth. This is in opposition to the mb laws. Therefore god is not free of sin.
8.god has problems with counting since he does not have fingers.
9.god is kinda afraid since he may be overthrown a strange band called the aphex twin.
10.till then god still can save your souls if ya want to!!
WOULD YOU LIKE TO BE SAVED? Pray this prayer, and mean it with all your heart: Just pray this SIMPLE prayer, and mean it with ALL your heart. Lord Jesus, I know that I am a sinner, and unless you save me I am lost forever. I thank you for dying for me at Calvary. I come to you now, the best way I know how, and ask you to save me. I now receive you as my Savior. In Jesus Christ name, Amen.
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Mickey Mouse
from The Moon on 2002-12-30 11:55 [#00495412]
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can we donate to your paypal account for a sure fire way to get into heaven? eh?
haha
direct deposit?
;*)
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2002-12-30 13:31 [#00495482]
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Mister God forgot one...
11) read the Bible
I'm still wondering why mister God let that silly Jepthah sacrifice his daughter and encouraged his chosen people to commit war crimes against the Midianites, but he works in mysterious ways and maybe we should stop thinking so darned much and love the rascal.
Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him.
But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.
Goodness, maybe that Milosevic fellow was a prophet of God too!
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-12-30 13:54 [#00495507]
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oh yea, ethnic cleansing and the Crusades... God loves that shit ;) that really speaks well for Christianity.
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Anus_Presley
on 2002-12-30 13:58 [#00495512]
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fleetmouse, i BAN you frrom spending any morre time doing rresearrch forr this thrread.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2002-12-30 14:01 [#00495516]
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Another amusing thing about God is how he never once tells his prophets any basic medical facts, like washing before medical procedures, or how to make antibiotics or disinfect a wound. No, he tells them to avoid menstruating women and burn a goat and shit.
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Anus_Presley
on 2002-12-30 14:05 [#00495521]
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and that masterrbation causes yourr penis to fall off, and spots.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2002-12-30 14:10 [#00495530]
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Yet another amusing fact about Christianity is that there is an entire school of thought known as apologetics devoted to making excuses for its obvious bullshit.
It's like a real-life Ministry of Silly Walks.
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-12-30 14:18 [#00495538]
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there're a ton of attrocities and foolish acts perpetrated under the name of christianity. you could go on and on. but if your wife cheats on you, does that make all women bad? or if a black man robs you, are all blacks bad? and if a baptist minister says all fags go to hell, are all christians bad? obviously none of the evils mentioned in this thread were encouraged by the Bible, much less God Himself. as for God "letting" this happen: man's greed brought sin into the world. God permits us all free will; we can be as virtuous or heinous as we please. Jesus forgives all sinners who believe in Him. people who practice hate are not true believers.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2002-12-30 14:32 [#00495558]
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This is what Moses tells God's people in Numbers 31.
31:17 Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him.
31:18 But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.
Is this not a record of war crimes? Am I missing something here? Why don't you read the whole of Numbers 31 and ask yourself if this is the thing you want to spend your time worshiping.
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2002-12-30 14:33 [#00495559]
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praise the lard
- ronald 'god' mcdonald
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2002-12-30 14:46 [#00495566]
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Ah the miracles of St Ronald, like the malnourishing of the five thousand.
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jupitah
from Minneapolis (United States) on 2002-12-30 14:49 [#00495571]
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hey don't badmouth the book, god doesn't like that.
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Mickey Mouse
from The Moon on 2002-12-30 14:52 [#00495575]
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"hey don't badmouth the book, god doesn't like that"
I dont think it really matters if you dont believe in god......
(that goes for myself)
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2002-12-30 14:53 [#00495577]
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:: shakes fist at the sky ::
:: is squashed by giant foot ::
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