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Why bother? Like whty bother to strive for doing good ? Considering there might be nothing after this life, and when it seems to be a constant struggle. |
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oh god my ears are bleeding listening to manufactured mince |
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why bother to do anything? I really have no clue. most things I do, I do for fun - I like doing them. |
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tut, typical |
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by that logic, why don't you stop eating, stop talking, stop living. happy holidays, glad your contributing to the good spirits vit. |
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aah, nihilism... |
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Vit C, I am devoting my life to figuering out these types of answers. Doing a lot of reading lately on meta physics and religeous writtings, and doing a lot of living, and I am hard pressed to think or believe that doing good things will not have some reward (karma- treat other how you would like to be treated). you said "Like whty bother to strive for doing good " Its the delicate balance between good and bad that hold this world together, its part of the reason all religions exist, to show a path or guidline that shows good and bad. (although I am not religeous) What if everyone went around doing gastly horrible things? I dont think I would like that very much. And NO ONE, I repeat NO ONE, has any hard evidence that there IS something after life, its a FACT that energy can not dissapear, and thats what we all are, energy, so all this energy inside our bodies has to go somewhere. I am keeping hopes in the belief that there is something after all this. (I dont believe in heaven, or in a god) But I think that there has to be something. I strive to be a good person, because even if I become homeless and on skid row, people look up to people who do good deeds. Not many people now do good things as in the past, but I think that is even the more reason to try and strive to be a "good person". This whole, being mean and rude = funny additute really makes me sad, what happened to trying in sociaty.... what happened to ... kindness? It may be hard to find, but I believe there a lot of people that fight the good fight and are "good people" But it really depends on what kind of person you are, even the most wretched criminals have something good about them. "Good" to me means, holding doors open for people, giving to people in need, helping people when ever I can, going out of my way to help people. It brings hope that scociaty is not imploding on its self, and that morals still exist, and that the world is not going to shit. Not to bother, is giving up, quiting at life. This is all just my |
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This is all just my thoughts, I dont mean to preach, but I feel strongly about this type of discussion. |
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it feels good to help others. for me nobody is truly separate. the karma to me just means that if i hurt somebody, i am hurting a part of myself, and if i help somebody, i help myself. and that's real, because the way in which i relate with others reflects how i feel, my spiritual state, and the way i feel reflects how i relate to others, like a cycle. we're all in this together, plain and simple. |
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that energy-thing was really good. thanks, mickey. i like to think about this kind of things as 'well, if there _was_ an afterlife, whose side would you like to be on?'. i try to be good because it makes me happy, and in the same time i can be even a bit more sure that at least i will not burn in any agony. |
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mickey, you're right that one of the purposes of religions is to guide moral behavior, but i think it fails. as soon as you begin to rely on a book or a preacher to inform how you shouls behave, there is trouble. you only need to feel. that's how all religions began, with people feeling, deeply. |
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well Mickey, you'll be dead before you find any answers. "..and thats what we all are, energy, so all this energy inside our bodies has to go somewhere.." it does go somewhere. it goes into the ground, or gets burned up. when it goes into the ground it reenters the cycle of nature. |
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yeah i just wanna have fun. i wanna trreat good people good fuck the rrest. i don't wanna be a saint. if there is a heaven its too late for me anyway. |
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qter, either that energy is you and you become everything, or if that energy is not you, you have a soul. am i missing any possibilities? |
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thats a rather morbid way of looking at it qrter, but if thats what you believe its your right to think that way. I hope that if I put enough effort to find some answers or truth I will get something good enough to satisfy me before my death. I really dont want this thread to go the religion bashing route, if a person is religeous its their right to believe it, and we should respect their belief. Re-entering the cycle of nature, that is a good way of putting it. I have been interviewing some elderly people now for the past couple of years, hearing out what they have to say about life. One elderly woman put death in that same context. I would like to think that it is reaching a new level of existance, something so complex and great we will never really understand or comprehend it. The great thing about this type of discussion is No one can be right or wrong about this, to try and say otherwise is silly, because there is NO evidence that any one answer is wrong. And I think it IS possible to find out these answers, maybe not all of them, but some, in one life time. Being good makes me feel good and healthy, and I think it holds the world in balence. The good vs. bad has been written about in plays, movies, books through out time. Something significant about that I think. |
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just be yourself |
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striving to do good, as you say makes you feel good about yourself. life is about being happy. and making babies. |
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and morre babies |
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read the book "Power and Place" by Deloria and Wildcat. All about Native American Metaphysics and how we can indigenous our education system for the better. ----------- hell, I'll send you my copy if you want |
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Life. dont talk to me about life. Brain the size of a planet and they tell me to open a door for them. |
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did u not post that somewherre else, lol i like it. |
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"I strive to be a good person, because even if I become homeless and on skid row, people look up to people who do good deeds." I'm not saying I'm persect, ah but the thing is I fell like I rty to do good and all that happens is god slaps me in the face for it. I've always been interested and yes I do believe in karma reallly I suppose. However from where I'm standing the sowing reaps very few rewards. And so saying all this the idea of being ghastly all the time to other people sounds like an appealing optionbut I'm probably not going to .. Oh just don't get me started |
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Even if I don't get some celestial Doing My Best award at the end of this life, I'd rather be nice to people, and try hard, and challenge myself than sit around cussing people out, watching movies, and getting fat. |
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MAybe you're sowing for the wrong reasons Like if a farmer goes out and scatters seed to make a huge profit, and become the most accomplished farmer, and successful, if it doesn't happen, he's going to be disappointed and depressed. But if he does it cause he just wants to make enough food to live off of, and enough money to break even, chances are he'll be a lot more pleased with the simple things in life. |
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And he won't feel so smited if he doesn't make it big. And so maybe you should just do what you do with a heart that says "I'm doing this for no glory". Humility solves many things. |
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Marvin the paranoid android. |
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"hell, I'll send you my copy if you want" I could pay for the shipping and send it back to you BlatantEcho. That book sounds really interesting. Being more then half Shawnee and a tribe member, I like reading books by other indians. Your emails non public, but you could email me and we could talk about it more. Yes, being yourself and trying is what counts I think. Or as ODB says....... keepin it real |
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lol trry the libarry firrst Mickey. |
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I check it all the time anus, especially at school. I would have seen it, as thats all I been into lately. But thanks *flies back to the moon* oh yea.... *throws an apple pie at anus_presley* |
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so u rr serrious about the whole meaning of life trracing prroject. i perrsonally think life is empty and meaningless, else i would not be hearr at 11:40 typing to people i will neverr see and whose voice i will neverr hear. |
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*e-mail sent* |
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I think its folly too to try to find out what the meaning of life is. and I too believe there is no meaning. we're in it, we have to deal with it. no bigger plan. make your own plans. |
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perception is everything. you do have control to see things how you want to, and to change them. you are in control. |
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If I had more time I would be serious but... I percieve the drum machine therefore I'm taking control of the drum machine. |
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what's up with all this meaning of life talk? i've never understood what it would mean for there to be a single meaning of life. it's simply whatever you make it, isn't it? |
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i think I'd like to think there is a goal, or a plateu to reach. Be happy? Be comfortable? Make life what you can? Do the best you can? Iono, I don't like those, I prefer: ----------------------------------- Do everything you can for everyone you know, let the of the puzzle themselves fall into place. ----------------------------------- I think that makes the meaning of life more along the lines of "Watch out for everyone else, and people will watch out for you" or more simply "Happiness and Good done promote Happiness and Good had" |
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fucking hell, ruined that nicely: SHOULD read: ----------------------------------- Do everything you can for everyone you know, let the pieces of the puzzle themselves fall into place. ----------------------------------- |
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i have no energy to write a full thing on the subject... i think everybody has to do something and in fact i think we all have the same "god" we just see it from our own eyes... i always felt kind of empty myself, but ive got abilites and i know them, just need inspiration, but its coming again i feel it, its so good, i will write something about my life in a symbolic way... move your ass if you feel down Vit C, you lazy helmet headed child !!! ;) |
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being "good" is better than being "bad" because it serves the better of the community. everyones better off just being nice and helpful/kind. if we went around screwing our friends and beating people up for no reason no on ewould benifit in the end. this is explained better by some philospher, cant remember now lol but i can look it up in my textbook later on. |
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well, we got to do something... and why would we want to be bad to people? That just sucks... make love not war!! |
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