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Vit C
from Glasgow (United Kingdom) on 2002-12-10 10:37 [#00476542]
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Are we alone in the universe?
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BlatantEcho
from All over (United States) on 2002-12-10 10:42 [#00476544]
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the universe is so damn vast, how can we ever find out?
Our current technology that is used to detect life would take a billion light years to cover any of the universe, and then a billion years to get back to us. We'll all be long gone.
How can we ever find out without pure 100% random ass luck?
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-12-10 10:51 [#00476553]
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There HAS to be. Whoever or whatever put us here couldn't have just put us here ALONE. Or maybe we really are so damn special and unique. But there has to be something, somewhere out there.
Thinking about space gives me headaches, it just blows my mind like nothing else... it's fucking incredible. And the only hope we have to make contact with aliens is if they're WAY more advanced than us, because we can't do shit out there yet.
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BlatantEcho
from All over (United States) on 2002-12-10 10:52 [#00476556]
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bingo
my head hurts
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-12-10 10:55 [#00476557]
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"There HAS to be. Whoever or whatever put us here couldn't have just put us here ALONE. Or maybe we really are so damn special and unique. But there has to be something, somewhere
out there."
why? I really don't see the logic in this. because we exist, there MUST also be aliens? how does that figure?
people always say this, but their reasoning is kind of hazy - the same kind of hazy when people say they don't believe in god, but do believe in "a higher power".
imo, our planet is a freak coincident. that said, I won't say that aliens absolutely not exist. maybe.
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rzezniq
from gorzow (Poland) on 2002-12-10 10:58 [#00476559]
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we arent alone for sure because universe is unlimited thats why there is an unlimited chance of meeting alien life forms - simple mathematics......
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-12-10 11:06 [#00476564]
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Well there doesn't HAVE to be, but I just find it hard to believe that in such a vast place, there's just us. But it's true that we seem like such a freak occurance... all the factors necessary for life came together on earth, and nowhere else that we know of, so obviously this is a ''lucky'' planet... but fuck, it's not like we've seen very much of the universe! They very well may be other planets that ''lucked out'' that we're not aware of, or capable of finding yet.
But there may not. Bah!
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-12-10 11:09 [#00476568]
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but hasn't it been proven that the universe is not unlimited only unbelievably large..?
there is even an estimation of all objects in the universe.
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X-tomatic
from ze war room on 2002-12-10 11:14 [#00476569]
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NASA made this calculation once, coming up with staggering results for possibilities of intelligent life in outerspace. They beared in mind all the things that could possibly go wrong, for example meteors, world wars,natural disasters on the planet itself etc, the ability for a staring civilization to evolve beyond to what we have now (as far as you can call that a civilization). Subtracted that from the known and possible planets that have similar circumstances as our planet, and they still ended up with huge numbers for thriving alien civilizations.
It would be totally stupid and even egocentric for us humans to think that we are alone and very special.
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rzezniq
from gorzow (Poland) on 2002-12-10 11:41 [#00476581]
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i dont know if the universe is unlimited or not but its fuckin huge for sure!but what is after end of universe?mybe you culd anwser mr.qrter?some say its nothing but if you name nothing it becomes something....dificult problem to slove........
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-12-10 11:52 [#00476589]
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how the fuck should I know?
I'm just saying I really do NOT know. when everybody starts stating that there surely must be aliens, I think thats a big jump.
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Quoth
from Sweden on 2002-12-10 11:55 [#00476590]
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i take my pride in knowing that my life & purpose on this earth is meaningless. our life is so small considering what is outside of our world we live in... it is rather funny to me to consider that anything besides ourselves gives a damn about communicating with us.
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rzezniq
from gorzow (Poland) on 2002-12-10 11:59 [#00476592]
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thats right quoth! qrter dont be so agressive....
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2002-12-10 12:05 [#00476595]
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REMEMBER THAT MOVIE CONTACT? that sucked
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rzezniq
from gorzow (Poland) on 2002-12-10 12:50 [#00476619]
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yeah,a lot...
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2002-12-10 13:25 [#00476643]
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but hasn't it been proven that the universe is not unlimited only unbelievably large..?
Heh heh. That could be a line right out of Douglas Adams, but he'd call it utterly, unbelievably, skull crackingly large.
Anyhoo, now that they're finding bacteria living at thermal vents on the sea floor meabolizing sulphur and even 200 feet beneath the rock of the deepest sea floor, I'm starting to think life is cheap and easy. We should take a closer look at Europa.
Whether or not this life often has the misfortune to evolve into forms that are self aware (i.e., miserable), who knows.
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