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uviol
from United States on 2002-12-09 22:55 [#00475806]
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1. country 2. r&b 3. swing 4. gangsta rap 5. ska
anyone care to add? i know some will object fundamentally to this poll, but just for fun.. :)
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spoonz
from Edmonton, AB (Canada) on 2002-12-09 22:57 [#00475808]
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country tranceTRANCE gangsta rap crappy swing (but if it's done right, it's done semi good) annnnd... trance again, cuz it's just so so bad >_<
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-12-09 22:57 [#00475809]
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ska and swing arnt that bad man.
swing can be lots of fun
and ska can too.
not stuff i listen to, and buy the cds... but in the right setting its great
so much anger i sense in you...
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spoonz
from Edmonton, AB (Canada) on 2002-12-09 22:58 [#00475810]
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OOPS
not "tranceTRANCE", just TRANCE will do
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DaWeeze
from WANTED IN 16 STATES! on 2002-12-09 22:58 [#00475811]
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Move everything down one notch and make "pre-manufactured, pre-digested and vomited-up pop" as #1...
;)
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uviol
from United States on 2002-12-09 23:05 [#00475818]
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meant to add pop rock to the list actually.
sorry spoonz, trance doesn't bug me, but trip hop does!!! :)
zeus: well, there's exceptions to each of these, just not many. I just can't stand all that Brian setzer rat pack stuff.. annoys the heck outta me. Frank sinatra and stuff is bad too!! i'd rather listen to ska!
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Verkrampte
from Renton (United States) on 2002-12-09 23:05 [#00475819]
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1. Folk 2. Ska 3. Country 4. Pola 5. Gospel
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Refund
from Melbourne (Australia) on 2002-12-09 23:09 [#00475828]
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cheezy dance pop/rock rap country peter gabriel
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uviol
from United States on 2002-12-09 23:11 [#00475831]
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hey! nice choices you guys! you pointed out several I forgot! another one would be world ..
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Refund
from Melbourne (Australia) on 2002-12-09 23:15 [#00475832]
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some world music is ok,.. most of it shit though
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FreeQ
from Quebec (Canada) on 2002-12-09 23:30 [#00475846]
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1.country 2.stuff that play on(and is produce by) comercial radio 3.cheap pop(celine dion ... etc...) 4.ganstarapyochecktshiuphoe! 5.crooners
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2002-12-09 23:31 [#00475848]
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who here digs aussie hip hop?
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2002-12-09 23:32 [#00475849]
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haha crooners :)
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Quoth
from Sweden on 2002-12-09 23:33 [#00475850]
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01: Nazi Music 02: Top 40: POP 03: Contemporary Christian 04: 1980's Mall Music 05: Musak
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-12-10 00:30 [#00475904]
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yodeling? I like stuff that sucks though because of the bad feelings it gives you.
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2002-12-10 00:34 [#00475908]
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r&b, rap, ska, gospel, country i'll put them all on numero uno (but doesn't anyone like the countrysong 'stand by your man' - Tammy Wynette ?)
maybe i'm sick
..funny that no-one nominates classical music btw
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Quoth
from Sweden on 2002-12-10 00:36 [#00475909]
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no, i do not like that country song, but i do prefer that garth brooks song, erm... "i've got friends in low places where the whiskeys dry and the beer chases my blues away..." :) :) :)
greatest COUNTRY song EVER
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map
from mülligen (Switzerland) on 2002-12-10 01:29 [#00475955]
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TRANCE for sure, r&b Schlager covershit po(o)p rap shit
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glass_eater
from a blind nerves area (Switzerland) on 2002-12-10 02:36 [#00475988]
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rnb hip hop pop pop pop
pop
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-12-10 02:39 [#00475990]
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Of all the stupid threads I've seen on this MB, this one is among top 5.
It's not genres that are bad, it's artists in them who make bad music.
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glass_eater
from a blind nerves area (Switzerland) on 2002-12-10 02:40 [#00475992]
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good, now can you say pop is good ??? :)
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-12-10 02:43 [#00475994]
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Genres are not "good" or "bad". Just because CD has shit music on it, doesn't mean the Cd itself, as an object is bad. You get it? Genre is just an artificial box into which we put bands and artists to facilitate communication.
There are millions of great pop bands out there. Furthermore, most of IDM or Braindance or whatever you choose to call this music we mostly discuss here fits into "pop" category.
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-12-10 02:44 [#00475998]
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I concur. I largely ignore country music but I'd ignore Johnny cash at my peril. Why be so dismissive? YOU are the ones losing out.
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nacmat
on 2002-12-10 02:44 [#00475999]
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thanks for the post meho:
Of all the stupid threads I've seen on this MB, this one is
among top 5.
It's not genres that are bad, it's artists in them who make
bad muÎ
yes yes yes
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-12-10 02:48 [#00476005]
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Does "I concur" mean "I second that"?
I would like to apologise to people in this thread for ruining their fun with my ultra-serious posts. I am old and humourless and my head is disappearing up mi own arse.
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-12-10 02:55 [#00476010]
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Yes it does.
And I concur.
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-12-10 03:00 [#00476013]
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Great, another english word that you taught me!!!
Now, Johnny Cash is a giant of modern music!!!
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-12-10 03:02 [#00476014]
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Yes, but you have not taught me one Serb word!
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glass_eater
from a blind nerves area (Switzerland) on 2002-12-10 03:07 [#00476015]
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actually i thought about recent pop shits, will it become better?
it will be dope but im not so sure... i understand what u say with genre, i dont like to categorise people into things, but the pop genre exists, and now its pretty sick isnt it?
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-12-10 03:13 [#00476021]
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Jonesy: start with "Ludilo": it means "madness".
And glass_eater: you first have to explain what you consider "pop". Aphex Twin is also "pop" from one perspective: he did participate in MTV video awards contest several years ago, didn't he?
So, is Jennifer Lopez pop? Her music is crap, for most part but "Jenny from the block" is an awesome song.
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glass_eater
from a blind nerves area (Switzerland) on 2002-12-10 03:17 [#00476024]
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but "Jenny from the block" is an awesome song.
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOO im still im still jenny from the blocks, dont be fooled by the bucks that i got !!!!!
LMAAAAAAOOOOOOO please someone explode my head with a bamboo right now !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-12-10 03:18 [#00476025]
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This thread is utter ludilo.
Hmmm, where does pop music begin and end? The Beatles were pop music. Today pop runs from Royksopp to Las Ketchup.
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uzim
on 2002-12-10 03:22 [#00476029]
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i think (i'm not sure at all, but i think) that there might be "good" music in every genre.
even r'n'b or country, who knows.
but anyway... "good" music barely means anything, it's all a matter of taste...
maybe the time and the sophistication which had been implied in the making of the music, but that only means it's been harder to make, not that it is necessarily better.
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-12-10 03:22 [#00476030]
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It's "Don't be fooled by the rocks that i got", not "bucks".
And I expected this kind of reaction. IDM people are usually too snobbish to recognise a good pop song when it comes from "mainstream" dirrection. And yet, they will fall for each and every RDJ's childhood-evoking melody because it's mildly smeared with synthetised farts.
But it's OK, as Jonesy says, "pop" is not really all that identifiable today. As capitalism, pop lurks in everytthing around us.
Jonesy, another cool serbian word is "sranje" and it means "crap". Your use of word "ludilo" was faultless.
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nacmat
on 2002-12-10 03:23 [#00476033]
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jenny from the block!!!
I love the song I love the video I gotta masturbate right now
las ketchup: the best (ludilo)
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-12-10 03:23 [#00476035]
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Uzim: god point.
Country has Gram Parsons and Johnny Cash as great examples of fierce songwriters. R'n'B has Timbaland.
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-12-10 03:24 [#00476036]
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Yeah, Nac, was that Las Ketchup song actually big in Spain this summer? Because the rest of us got to see it only in late autumn and it looks like a classical summer song...
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glass_eater
from a blind nerves area (Switzerland) on 2002-12-10 03:28 [#00476040]
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im not too or not enough of something, i think u need to have serious problems to enjoy this music(j-lo) i mean every song she makes is the same exact as the others, she doesnt say anything, and shes there with her hip hop bullshitters singing shits, in fact mostly repeating what she says and adding the words "yo" and "represent"...
shes real, she comes from the bronx, shes still real, man who wants to be using his brain listening to that big vomit industry bastards ???
but i reckon fat Joe got a little something behind his fatness :P
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nacmat
on 2002-12-10 03:33 [#00476046]
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yea all the fucking summer dancing it at the summer parties of every village
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-12-10 03:33 [#00476047]
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For me all music has at least some value. I may hate the sound of a lot of pop or mainstream music but it brings a lot of people some measure of happiness or pleasure.
But music that I value myself is that which transcends, or attempts to transcend, its confines and paramaters while keeping an eye on reality. For example, Marvin Gaye's 'What's Going On?' is the perfect marriage of sublime music, pop sensibilities and critical thought. For me this has value, or works, on a number of levels.
But of course there are times when I fancy some happy-go-lucky pop music as a means of escape. In this instance it has value on a level I am craving; nothing more nothing less.
I guess what I'm saying is is that there is a lot of sranje talked about pop music and I think you need to take it for what it is. I'm always baffled by people who get so riled about pop stars who mime saccharine pop songs to backing tracks. What did you like when you were 8 years old?
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glass_eater
from a blind nerves area (Switzerland) on 2002-12-10 03:35 [#00476048]
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8 years old : rita mitsouko micheal jackson ugly kid joe thats what i remember
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-12-10 03:37 [#00476051]
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Pop music, in its essence isn't about anything. The secret to a good pop song is to have three minutes filled with sweet nothings. Good pop songs erases the rest of the world for the duration of the music.
That song rocks, has good beats, great chorus and some excellent samples. It's good to sing along and to dance to and if you don't feel that way, well, that's fine. As far as I am concerned, the parts with those two MC's dropping their science are utterly redundant and serve only to emphasise J-Los "realness". Which, of course is ridiculous, Jonesy has told me about entire streets of that block being blocked and emptied of people for purpose of shooting her video. So, she's just a spearhead of capitalist-machine onslaught, I am well aware of that. But, does that take away any part of greatness of that song? No.
Missy Elliott's "Get ur freak on" was similarly empty and shallow, and yet a great song, because Timbaland is a genius and Miss E is capable of great deliverance. The ultimate pop ambition is not to communicate, it's to charm you.
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glass_eater
from a blind nerves area (Switzerland) on 2002-12-10 03:40 [#00476052]
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missy eliot is a litle more acceptable, but not so much in fact....
j-lo doesnt erase the world during her song, she erases my spirit for 3 minutes, and i wanna crash the screen...
but i know whats going on man, youre just found of this fat ass latina mama, i can understand that
if the world doesnt exist, this feeling is called love ! (hummm you must be pretty jealous with all the hustlers around her ;)
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-12-10 03:49 [#00476057]
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Hmm, if you were 8 years old when Ugly Kid Joe were around, that'd make you no more than 18 now. So in a way, that explains this last post of yours. If you seriously think I am falling for J-Lo's music because of her looks, then, my friend you are sadly mistaken.
What I am trying to tell you is that, regardless of the actual "content" of that song (J-Lo lying about being true to her roots), the actual form of that song is utterly charming.
What if I tell you that Avril Lavigne's "Sk8ter boi" is similarly charming, even though it's obviously even more fake than J-Lo. But pop music, as one of journalists over here put is, is here to protect us from too much of a truth.
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-12-10 03:52 [#00476058]
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Another example (Las ketchup reminded me of this) is Ricky Martin: I can't imagine a more hallow and empty music than his (hmm, maybe Enrique Iglesias) but his "Livin' la vida loca" kicks ass.
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Junktion
from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2002-12-10 03:54 [#00476059]
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1. trance 2. r'n'b 3. country 4. folk 5. techno
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Salma Hayek
on 2002-12-10 03:55 [#00476060]
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Pop music such as J-Lo's doesn't "erase the rest of the world" ..atleast not my world. I think that sort of top 40 pop music is simply fashion , just catchy music that is in line with the current trend in popular culture....right now there are a few trends going such as hip hop, boy and girl bands catchy rock bands etc... they're in now but probablly won't be in the future...
the slogan for a top 40 radio channel in my town says it all , they brag about playing "new" hit music...has to be new, in, now, fashionable, trendy etc...
for me, this is not what i look for in music......
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Salma Hayek
on 2002-12-10 03:58 [#00476062]
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I don't think J-Lo is that hot..her ass is way too big I don't know why all the fuss...
she's alright but not stunningly beautiful...
however Meho I HATE Avril Lavigne's ska8er boi and become suicidal everytime i hear it played(:
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-12-10 03:59 [#00476063]
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Do you think people are really that mindless?
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Salma Hayek
on 2002-12-10 04:02 [#00476066]
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most of the people who buy this music are in their pre or early teens...they just want something catchy to listen and dance to...and they listen to what their friends listen to..
offcourse this is a generalisation
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