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offline uviol from United States on 2002-12-09 22:55 [#00475806]
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1. country
2. r&b
3. swing
4. gangsta rap
5. ska

anyone care to add? i know some will object fundamentally
to this poll, but just for fun.. :)


 

offline spoonz from Edmonton, AB (Canada) on 2002-12-09 22:57 [#00475808]
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country
tranceTRANCE
gangsta rap
crappy swing (but if it's done right, it's done semi good)
annnnd... trance again, cuz it's just so so bad >_<


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-12-09 22:57 [#00475809]
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ska and swing arnt that bad man.

swing can be lots of fun

and ska can too.

not stuff i listen to, and buy the cds... but in the right
setting its great

so much anger i sense in you...


 

offline spoonz from Edmonton, AB (Canada) on 2002-12-09 22:58 [#00475810]
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OOPS

not "tranceTRANCE", just TRANCE will do


 

offline DaWeeze from WANTED IN 16 STATES! on 2002-12-09 22:58 [#00475811]
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Move everything down one notch and make "pre-manufactured,
pre-digested and vomited-up pop" as #1...

;)


 

offline uviol from United States on 2002-12-09 23:05 [#00475818]
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meant to add pop rock to the list actually.

sorry spoonz, trance doesn't bug me, but trip hop does!!!
:)

zeus: well, there's exceptions to each of these, just not
many. I just can't stand all that Brian setzer rat pack
stuff.. annoys the heck outta me. Frank sinatra and stuff
is bad too!! i'd rather listen to ska!


 

offline Verkrampte from Renton (United States) on 2002-12-09 23:05 [#00475819]
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1. Folk
2. Ska
3. Country
4. Pola
5. Gospel


 

offline Refund from Melbourne (Australia) on 2002-12-09 23:09 [#00475828]
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cheezy dance
pop/rock
rap
country
peter gabriel


 

offline uviol from United States on 2002-12-09 23:11 [#00475831]
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hey! nice choices you guys! you pointed out several I
forgot! another one would be world ..


 

offline Refund from Melbourne (Australia) on 2002-12-09 23:15 [#00475832]
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some world music is ok,.. most of it shit though


 

offline FreeQ from Quebec (Canada) on 2002-12-09 23:30 [#00475846]
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1.country
2.stuff that play on(and is produce by) comercial radio
3.cheap pop(celine dion ... etc...)
4.ganstarapyochecktshiuphoe!
5.crooners



 

offline rockenjohnny from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2002-12-09 23:31 [#00475848]
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who here digs aussie hip hop?


 

offline rockenjohnny from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2002-12-09 23:32 [#00475849]
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haha crooners :)


 

offline Quoth from Sweden on 2002-12-09 23:33 [#00475850]
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01: Nazi Music
02: Top 40: POP
03: Contemporary Christian
04: 1980's Mall Music
05: Musak


 

online w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-12-10 00:30 [#00475904]
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yodeling? I like stuff that sucks though because of the bad
feelings it gives you.


 

offline Morton from out (Netherlands, The) on 2002-12-10 00:34 [#00475908]
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r&b, rap, ska, gospel, country
i'll put them all on numero uno
(but doesn't anyone like the countrysong 'stand by your man'
- Tammy Wynette ?)

maybe i'm sick

..funny that no-one nominates classical music btw


 

offline Quoth from Sweden on 2002-12-10 00:36 [#00475909]
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no, i do not like that country song, but i do prefer that
garth brooks song, erm... "i've got friends in low places
where the whiskeys dry and the beer chases my blues away..."
:) :) :)

greatest COUNTRY song EVER


 

offline map from mülligen (Switzerland) on 2002-12-10 01:29 [#00475955]
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TRANCE for sure,
r&b
Schlager
covershit
po(o)p
rap shit


 

offline glass_eater from a blind nerves area (Switzerland) on 2002-12-10 02:36 [#00475988]
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rnb
hip hop
pop
pop
pop

pop


 

offline Meho Krljic from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-12-10 02:39 [#00475990]
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Of all the stupid threads I've seen on this MB, this one is
among top 5.

It's not genres that are bad, it's artists in them who make
bad music.


 

offline glass_eater from a blind nerves area (Switzerland) on 2002-12-10 02:40 [#00475992]
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good,
now can you say pop is good ???
:)


 

offline Meho Krljic from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-12-10 02:43 [#00475994]
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Genres are not "good" or "bad". Just because CD has shit
music on it, doesn't mean the Cd itself, as an object is
bad. You get it? Genre is just an artificial box into which
we put bands and artists to facilitate communication.

There are millions of great pop bands out there.
Furthermore, most of IDM or Braindance or whatever you
choose to call this music we mostly discuss here fits into
"pop" category.


 

offline jonesy from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-12-10 02:44 [#00475998]
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I concur. I largely ignore country music but I'd ignore
Johnny cash at my peril. Why be so dismissive? YOU are the
ones losing out.


 

offline nacmat on 2002-12-10 02:44 [#00475999]
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thanks for the post meho:

Of all the stupid threads I've seen on this MB, this one is

among top 5.

It's not genres that are bad, it's artists in them who make

bad muÎ 

yes yes yes


 

offline Meho Krljic from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-12-10 02:48 [#00476005]
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Does "I concur" mean "I second that"?

I would like to apologise to people in this thread for
ruining their fun with my ultra-serious posts. I am old and
humourless and my head is disappearing up mi own arse.


 

offline jonesy from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-12-10 02:55 [#00476010]
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Yes it does.

And I concur.


 

offline Meho Krljic from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-12-10 03:00 [#00476013]
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Great, another english word that you taught me!!!

Now, Johnny Cash is a giant of modern music!!!


 

offline jonesy from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-12-10 03:02 [#00476014]
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Yes, but you have not taught me one Serb word!


 

offline glass_eater from a blind nerves area (Switzerland) on 2002-12-10 03:07 [#00476015]
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actually i thought about recent pop shits, will it become
better?
it will be dope but im not so sure...
i understand what u say with genre, i dont like to
categorise people into things, but the pop genre exists, and
now its pretty sick isnt it?


 

offline Meho Krljic from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-12-10 03:13 [#00476021]
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Jonesy: start with "Ludilo": it means "madness".

And glass_eater: you first have to explain what you consider
"pop". Aphex Twin is also "pop" from one perspective: he did
participate in MTV video awards contest several years ago,
didn't he?

So, is Jennifer Lopez pop? Her music is crap, for most part
but "Jenny from the block" is an awesome song.


 

offline glass_eater from a blind nerves area (Switzerland) on 2002-12-10 03:17 [#00476024]
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but "Jenny from the block" is an awesome song.

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOO
im still im still jenny from the blocks, dont be fooled by
the bucks that i got !!!!!
LMAAAAAAOOOOOOO
please someone explode my head with a bamboo right now
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



 

offline jonesy from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-12-10 03:18 [#00476025]
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This thread is utter ludilo.

Hmmm, where does pop music begin and end? The Beatles were
pop music. Today pop runs from Royksopp to Las Ketchup.


 

offline uzim on 2002-12-10 03:22 [#00476029]
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i think (i'm not sure at all, but i think) that there might
be "good" music in every genre.

even r'n'b or country, who knows.

but anyway... "good" music barely means anything, it's all a
matter of taste...
maybe the time and the sophistication which had been implied
in the making of the music, but that only means it's been
harder to make, not that it is necessarily better.


 

offline Meho Krljic from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-12-10 03:22 [#00476030]
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It's "Don't be fooled by the rocks that i got", not
"bucks".

And I expected this kind of reaction. IDM people are usually
too snobbish to recognise a good pop song when it comes from
"mainstream" dirrection. And yet, they will fall for each
and every RDJ's childhood-evoking melody because it's mildly
smeared with synthetised farts.

But it's OK, as Jonesy says, "pop" is not really all that
identifiable today. As capitalism, pop lurks in everytthing
around us.

Jonesy, another cool serbian word is "sranje" and it means
"crap". Your use of word "ludilo" was faultless.


 

offline nacmat on 2002-12-10 03:23 [#00476033]
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jenny from the block!!!

I love the song
I love the video
I gotta masturbate right now

las ketchup: the best (ludilo)



 

offline Meho Krljic from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-12-10 03:23 [#00476035]
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Uzim: god point.

Country has Gram Parsons and Johnny Cash as great examples
of fierce songwriters. R'n'B has Timbaland.


 

offline Meho Krljic from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-12-10 03:24 [#00476036]
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Yeah, Nac, was that Las Ketchup song actually big in Spain
this summer? Because the rest of us got to see it only in
late autumn and it looks like a classical summer song...


 

offline glass_eater from a blind nerves area (Switzerland) on 2002-12-10 03:28 [#00476040]
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im not too or not enough of something, i think u need to
have serious problems to enjoy this music(j-lo) i mean every
song she makes is the same exact as the others, she doesnt
say anything, and shes there with her hip hop bullshitters
singing shits, in fact mostly repeating what she says and
adding the words "yo" and "represent"...
shes real, she comes from the bronx, shes still real,
man who wants to be using his brain listening to that big
vomit industry bastards ???

but i reckon fat Joe got a little something behind his
fatness :P


 

offline nacmat on 2002-12-10 03:33 [#00476046]
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yea all the fucking summer dancing it at the summer parties
of every village


 

offline jonesy from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-12-10 03:33 [#00476047]
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For me all music has at least some value. I may hate the
sound of a lot of pop or mainstream music but it brings a
lot of people some measure of happiness or pleasure.

But music that I value myself is that which transcends, or
attempts to transcend, its confines and paramaters while
keeping an eye on reality. For example, Marvin Gaye's
'What's Going On?' is the perfect marriage of sublime music,
pop sensibilities and critical thought. For me this has
value, or works, on a number of levels.

But of course there are times when I fancy some
happy-go-lucky pop music as a means of escape. In this
instance it has value on a level I am craving; nothing more
nothing less.

I guess what I'm saying is is that there is a lot of sranje
talked about pop music and I think you need to take it for
what it is. I'm always baffled by people who get so riled
about pop stars who mime saccharine pop songs to backing
tracks. What did you like when you were 8 years old?


 

offline glass_eater from a blind nerves area (Switzerland) on 2002-12-10 03:35 [#00476048]
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8 years old :
rita mitsouko
micheal jackson
ugly kid joe
thats what i remember


 

offline Meho Krljic from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-12-10 03:37 [#00476051]
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Pop music, in its essence isn't about anything. The secret
to a good pop song is to have three minutes filled with
sweet nothings. Good pop songs erases the rest of the world
for the duration of the music.

That song rocks, has good beats, great chorus and some
excellent samples. It's good to sing along and to dance to
and if you don't feel that way, well, that's fine. As far as
I am concerned, the parts with those two MC's dropping their
science are utterly redundant and serve only to emphasise
J-Los "realness". Which, of course is ridiculous, Jonesy has
told me about entire streets of that block being blocked and
emptied of people for purpose of shooting her video. So,
she's just a spearhead of capitalist-machine onslaught, I am
well aware of that. But, does that take away any part of
greatness of that song? No.

Missy Elliott's "Get ur freak on" was similarly empty and
shallow, and yet a great song, because Timbaland is a genius
and Miss E is capable of great deliverance. The ultimate pop
ambition is not to communicate, it's to charm you.


 

offline glass_eater from a blind nerves area (Switzerland) on 2002-12-10 03:40 [#00476052]
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missy eliot is a litle more acceptable, but not so much in
fact....
j-lo doesnt erase the world during her song, she erases my
spirit for 3 minutes, and i wanna crash the screen...
but i know whats going on man, youre just found of this fat
ass latina mama, i can understand that
if the world doesnt exist, this feeling is called love !
(hummm you must be pretty jealous with all the hustlers
around her ;)


 

offline Meho Krljic from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-12-10 03:49 [#00476057]
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Hmm, if you were 8 years old when Ugly Kid Joe were around,
that'd make you no more than 18 now. So in a way, that
explains this last post of yours. If you seriously think I
am falling for J-Lo's music because of her looks, then, my
friend you are sadly mistaken.

What I am trying to tell you is that, regardless of the
actual "content" of that song (J-Lo lying about being true
to her roots), the actual form of that song is utterly
charming.

What if I tell you that Avril Lavigne's "Sk8ter boi" is
similarly charming, even though it's obviously even more
fake than J-Lo. But pop music, as one of journalists over
here put is, is here to protect us from too much of a truth.


 

offline Meho Krljic from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-12-10 03:52 [#00476058]
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Another example (Las ketchup reminded me of this) is Ricky
Martin: I can't imagine a more hallow and empty music than
his (hmm, maybe Enrique Iglesias) but his "Livin' la vida
loca" kicks ass.


 

offline Junktion from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2002-12-10 03:54 [#00476059]
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1. trance
2. r'n'b
3. country
4. folk
5. techno


 

offline Salma Hayek on 2002-12-10 03:55 [#00476060]
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Pop music such as J-Lo's doesn't "erase the rest of the
world" ..atleast not my world. I think that sort of top 40
pop music is simply fashion , just catchy music that is in
line with the current trend in popular culture....right now
there are a few trends going such as hip hop, boy and girl
bands catchy rock bands etc... they're in now but probablly
won't be in the future...

the slogan for a top 40 radio channel in my town says it all
, they brag about playing "new" hit music...has to be new,
in, now, fashionable, trendy etc...

for me, this is not what i look for in music......


 

offline Salma Hayek on 2002-12-10 03:58 [#00476062]
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I don't think J-Lo is that hot..her ass is way too big I
don't know why all the fuss...
she's alright but not stunningly beautiful...

however Meho I HATE Avril Lavigne's ska8er boi and become
suicidal everytime i hear it played(:


 

offline jonesy from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-12-10 03:59 [#00476063]
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Do you think people are really that mindless?


 

offline Salma Hayek on 2002-12-10 04:02 [#00476066]
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most of the people who buy this music are in their pre or
early teens...they just want something catchy to listen and
dance to...and they listen to what their friends listen
to..

offcourse this is a generalisation


 


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