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offline WarpKari from Planet Goo (Malta) on 2002-12-04 01:52 [#00467520]
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Sometimes they call it Naive electronica. I'm referring to
Múm style, together with maybe Telefon Tel Aviv and Fridge
and Four Tet etc.

Can you mention any more related artists/albums with similar
style/tone?

I would also put Monolake - Cinemascope in the same
category.


 

offline J-HOK on 2002-12-04 02:58 [#00467592]
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Melodies from mars


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-12-04 03:15 [#00467601]
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I've heard Telefon Tel Aviv compared to BoC, I DLed some of
their tracks the other day and I can't say I agree. Not only
do I not particularly like the tracks, but they seem quite
dissimilair to BoC.


 

offline WarpKari from Planet Goo (Malta) on 2002-12-04 03:43 [#00467612]
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who said they're similar?!
i dont agree either


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-12-04 03:47 [#00467615]
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2/3 people here someone did a thread on them a couple of
months ago, one of the points they made was comparing them
to BoC and some other people agreed...


 

offline chambre noire from Iceland on 2002-12-04 04:41 [#00467662]
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naive electronica : sam & valley



 

offline KEYFUMBLER from DUBLIN (Ireland) on 2002-12-04 05:05 [#00467678]
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whats so "naive" about it? "Naive" as in "delicate"?


 

offline WarpKari from Planet Goo (Malta) on 2002-12-04 05:10 [#00467680]
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'electronic melancholic'...
that sort of stuff i guess


 

offline Anus_Presley on 2002-12-04 06:12 [#00467719]
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why is it called so...?


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2002-12-04 08:14 [#00467788]
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i cant find anything melancholic about telefon tel aviv
but there are plenty of musicians on leaf lable that would
suit to that description


 

offline Inverted Whale from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2002-12-04 09:42 [#00467909]
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Hmmm ... yet another genre. But surely ISAN fits this
description well.


 

offline bob from Nottingham (United Kingdom) on 2002-12-04 10:04 [#00467937]
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isan fits this genre, very true.
what about savath & savalas, or even ulrich schnauss?


 

offline wayout from the street of crocodiles on 2002-12-04 10:28 [#00467959]
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yeah..well pretty much every somewhat new artist making
mellow, melodic experimental electronic music is compared to
boc on this board at some point or another...and more often
than not, they're quite dissimilar to boc

and to answer warpkari:
check out...
delarosa and asora
e*vax
isan
bauri
manitoba
minotaur shock
matmos
rotor+
global goon
electric birds
ten and tracer
freescha
mouse on mars
cim
aspen
slicker
arovane
to rococo rot
yagya
vadislav delay

i'd say all of those fit what your looking for

i'll probably think up some more eventually



 

offline tunemx from Budapest (Hungary) on 2002-12-04 10:35 [#00467965]
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Ladytron?


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-12-04 10:54 [#00467973]
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naive?

fuck that.

to me, that has a negative connotation.

Telefon Tel Aviv is far from naive musically. Beautiful
melodies and atmospheres, and intricate programming.

seriously. naive is a crap name. where did you hear it?


 

offline tunemx from Budapest (Hungary) on 2002-12-04 10:59 [#00467974]
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Ever heard of naive artists? No, take some art courses
american...


 

offline astrid-gil-botn from Londinium (United Kingdom) on 2002-12-04 11:18 [#00468002]
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naive elecrtronica is a bit of a crap name for it - the
journalist that thought that one up was trying too hard


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-12-04 11:45 [#00468031]
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tune: dont attack my citizenship. that was pretty
condesending. Im the last one to defend america, but its
pretty childish and rude to refer to me as "american".


 

offline Iroel from Pisa (Italy) on 2002-12-04 11:46 [#00468033]
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naive eletronica, fits exactly the poorly produce stuff that
I do =DDD


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-12-04 11:53 [#00468041]
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from a site on the web:

"Naive artists are self-taught artists or artists who
imitate the self-taught. Their fresh, uncluttered style is
characterized by vibrant colours, definite shapes, and
non-scientific perspective. The child-like renderings are
particularly effective for stories told from the child's
point of view."

So I was unaware of this genre, but I still stand by my
statement that Telefon Tel Aviv is not naive. Infact, this
helps my case. Listen to TTA, they have very structured
beautiful melodies/harmonies. They dont fit this description
at all imo.

I dont know if they are self taught or not. So how can we
assume?

But if this is the case... almost all IDM is Naive art,
because the majority of people who make it are self taught.

And I still think its a negative connotation. Its
undermining the artists art. Whos to say whats naive and
whats not?



 

offline Iroel from Pisa (Italy) on 2002-12-04 11:58 [#00468052]
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"non-scientific perspective"

Well that's definetely not the aproach that people like
autechre have with music I think...



 

offline Clic on 2002-12-04 12:00 [#00468055]
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I was thinking the exact same thing.


 

offline astrid-gil-botn from Londinium (United Kingdom) on 2002-12-04 12:21 [#00468091]
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or anyone who uses electronics to make music - letls forget
the term naive electronica - if i heard anyone say that when
i ws talking to them in the pub i''d quickly drink up and go
home


 

offline jupitah from Minneapolis (United States) on 2002-12-04 13:22 [#00468219]
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casino versus japan could be seen as "naive electronic,"
maybe.


 


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