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offline AE_King from Australia on 2002-11-30 07:42 [#00462076]
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Hi, I really want to start to make some IDM music and don't
have a clue how to get started. I'm sure lot's of peple
here can set me on the right path so what do I need software
wise (etc?)? Do you self teach yourself or are their
tutorials and stuff? The sort of music I'd like to make is
more mind **** rather than slow and melodic if that helps
too. Can you add your own noises to the programs and
manipulate them and stuff? Any help would be greatly
appreciated, i got lots of idea's and I want to get creative
with music! Cheers


 

offline AE_King from Australia on 2002-11-30 07:43 [#00462077]
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IDM music, doh :P


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-11-30 07:50 [#00462078]
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now, lots of people'll say, start with Fruity Loops.. you
don't want to do that.. start with SoundForge.. you can put
samples in there and manipulate them. start out by just
making good sounds, don't worry about "track structures" or
anything, that'll come later.


 

offline AE_King from Australia on 2002-11-30 07:53 [#00462080]
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thanks qrter, i'll look into soundforge :)


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-11-30 07:55 [#00462081]
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I think 6.0 is the last edition that came out. you can use
all kinds of plugins (the programs that make the effects) in
there too (although you can also do this in Fruity Loops),
but I wouldn't worry about that for now.


 

offline Phresch from fucking Trondheim (Norway) on 2002-11-30 08:18 [#00462092]
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Soundforge 5.0 is my favourite audio-tool, but i'd reckon it
is fairly complicated for a beginner. or maybe i'm just
stupid.

www.sonicfoundry.com

Dreamstation is good too. it's a tracker, mainly for making
melodies and stuff...but you can tweak the ass off those
presets!

www.dreamstation.com


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-11-30 08:24 [#00462096]
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I started out with SF and Cubase 5.1.. well, that meant
mostly messing around with SF and being scared of Cubase..

soundforge isn't that hard. it can be as complex as you want
it to get.

SF is my favourite audioprogramme, YEAH!


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-11-30 08:26 [#00462099]
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and because it isn't that much into sequencing as FL is, I
think its a better, more free start. it just focuses on
sound. most important thing imo is making good sounds first,
structure later..


 

offline Phresch from fucking Trondheim (Norway) on 2002-11-30 08:27 [#00462100]
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absolutely


 

offline Iroel from Pisa (Italy) on 2002-11-30 08:44 [#00462111]
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Which is better wavelab or soundforge?

Or are they totally different programs?


 

offline promo from United Kingdom on 2002-11-30 09:56 [#00462150]
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The best thing to use is Cubase VST without a doubt. I'm not
to sure how you'd create music with Soundforge but I'd like
to be shown. But Cubase VST is perfect for making music it
is the most user friendly program I've ever used. Once
you've got a copy of VST then you can download loads of free
VST Instruments (samplers, synthezisers, drum machines etc)
plugins off the internet. I would say its best just to start
using purely software because you can do really anything you
want now with software and a good imagination and then take
it from there.


 

offline od_step_cloak from Pleth (Australia) on 2002-11-30 10:03 [#00462151]
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i......have......absolutely......no.......idea.

i worked out everything myself, which probably takes
longer.

and i use fruityloops

and i make music,


 

offline flea from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-11-30 11:58 [#00462188]
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me too..I use fruity loops..I try to make music..but mostly
turns out like noise...


 

offline Iroel from Pisa (Italy) on 2002-11-30 12:01 [#00462189]
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I do all my music with fruity loops...in this days I'm
thinking to go to some other programs....



 

offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2002-11-30 12:02 [#00462190]
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i just have finished my first album with my friend using
only fruity, few plugins, cool edit pro (thanks syntrilium
for making the best audio-edit program)
and my microphone. and btw, we started with mixing the
fruity tutorial songs...
try to get used to all functions, after it, try
experimenting with everything, and save everything. the time
will come and you will make good songs from skratch...


 

offline C738 from Outer Space on 2002-11-30 13:05 [#00462254]
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In addicion to soundforge you might consider using Acid
(also by sonicfoundry I believe).
Its not the tool but the artist creating the sound. most of
the time, allthough you DO need some good tools.
Try several programs like cubase, logic, sonar, acid,
soundforge. Just clown around with em for a while and as
time goes by you find yourself suddenly using just one or
two programs, which suit you the best.

at least, that's the way it worked for me.
I started out using cubase and cakewalk, and I stuck to
cakewalk.
For audio I used cooledit and soundforge. And I kept using
em both because they both have nice features.

It's maybe lame to say, but you gotta find your own way in
this in order to find your own sound.
Prepare for some tough years! ; )


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-11-30 17:40 [#00462568]
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I agree.. Cubase is VERY good.. I use SX and I use
SoundForge.. a friend showed me how to do some stuff, but
most of it I figured out myself..


 

offline death-pengwin from Medicine Hat (Canada) on 2002-11-30 19:11 [#00462703]
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cool edit pro, vienna and rebirth are all i use now!


 


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