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Is capitalism inevitable due to the inherent human need to improve the individual and perpetuate it genetic information. Or is there another way? |
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Capitalism is almost certainly human nature- a survival mechanism, hence its popularity with Survivalists and Fascists. |
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I'm not so sure... I think with the advent of truely global society it is becoming more beneficial to work together to reach our goals. It is also becoming clear that capitalism will eat itself... in the not so distant future. The simply isn't enough money in the world to sustain the greed of the capitalist population. |
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is there? |
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I think its not so much our true nature, just exploitation. |
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Already we're migrating to a happier medium- workers, even in 3rd world countries are demanding better rights etc. I can see it leveling out without the need for revoluion. Capitalism will not go away entirely for a good hundred years yet... |
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I don't think that there's pure capitalism anywhere, not even in the USA... They still pay tax and they have public services. |
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Yes, I agree. |
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$$$$blingbling$$$$ (money=bad) |
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"(money=bad)" I agree with that. capitalism is not human nature, some day capitalism will be destroyed completely |
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Hmm...I remember you saying the world would end in 80 years. Yeeessss, the past always comes back to haunt/embarrass you. The ghosts helped me. |
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turning human beings into consumin g machines is bad - capitalsim on;y gets bad when it statrs thinking of humans as something you ccan buy and sell as well |
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WE MUST BE COME MORE CAPITALIST AND CONFORM TO THE WAY OF PHOBIAZERO!!!! IT IS THEN THAT SEAN AND ROB WILL WIN AND GET OUR MONEY! IT IS THEN THAT RICHARD WILL GET MORE MONEY' WE MUST CONFORM IF WE DON'T WILL DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Shut up. |
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What I seen on the blech CD-inlay thing... Work-Buy-Consume-Die |
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Human nature is to survive, but i guess capitalism is very close related to that Work-Buy-Consume-Die is so true in this society |
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not at all - that's a really reductionalist idea - things like yr health your friends and family and where you live - the quality of your life whatever that means .. |
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Note to braindance fans; Aphex couldn't give a fuck about capitalism or globalisation. |
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so? how do you know that? |
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The guy has even stated that he makes music for money. He let a bank use Girl/Boy Song in one of their adverts for fuck's sake. And he made a fortune from it. Greedy bastard. |
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yeah you are probably right.. but i dont think people should stop their discussions just because aphex dont care about the subject in question, if that was the intent with your post. its not like a thread about someone hugging/kissing/dating a girl has anything to do with aphex either.. |
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how do you know this ? just because he makes money?? i've heard him say in an interview he wouldn't do a bupa advert - and you're a card carrying communist who lives outside the machinations of capitalisim are you? |
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he said he makes music to avoid getting a proper job - probably the dreaqm of most dedicated musicians i imagine - wouldn't you like to make money from something you love. are obsessed with and very good at? |
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Hey where abouts do you live? (i'm always interested in the 3D world as well as this bizarre mb) |
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of course not, idiot |
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good old leaky. as friendly as always.. :) |
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findusbury park/harringay green laes |
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what's this got to do with friendly? "Is capitalism inevitable due to the inherent human need to improve the individual and perpetuate it genetic information" simply stating my opinion. no, it's not inevitable, it's the result of individuals response to the pressures of society which deem it unfashionable or unsociable to rebel or disagree with the mainstreem opinion of anything. get a grip, get your own life, your own opinion and stop leading someone else's life. |
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you might well disagree with lucky but i dont see why you should call him an idiot. are you always this rude or is it just in the safty behind your computer? |
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you're an idiot |
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with no opinion |
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okey.. nice to know what you think. a bit old and bitter are we? calling people idiots behind your computer..do you call people idiots in real life as often as you do on this board? i bet you would be beaten up quite frequently.. |
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idiot |
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humans...? animals nature? ;) |
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Gubb: stop instigating and baiting people.... move on |
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i just wanted to know a bit about why earthy always seems to be such a big twat. but if you tell my to move on i will natuarly do that mickey. |
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oxymoron |
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please feel free to come and have a (ahem) discussion of your personal problems anytime on soulseek, i'd love to understand your animosity towards me (and everyone else) |
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yet agian with the baiting....... not only are you baiting and instigating earthleakage in this thread, your trying instigate things in another thread with me.... this is the kinda thing I am talking about in my.... Anyone feel this way? thread lets just stop the bad vibes and move on, shall we? |
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Since you seem to be in a bad mood today Gubb I will give you a pie *hands over pie to Gubb* cheer up |
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well, i can see how you can feel that im trying to piss you off, but i was actually just trying to question some of your statements. i was a bit annoyend in what i saw as a "i have a major in politics, so lets end this now" attitude and i posted about it. its understandable if it was not to your liking. atleast i didnt call you an idiot... if you feel like im giving this board a bad vibe why dont you ask phobia to ban me? |
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Gubb I am not going to ask phobia to ban you, because then I would be stooping down to your level, and being cowardly. In the end of that one thread you said: what do you mean by: a little close to home, the truth stings... when you know damn well what I was implying and that pisses me off, your instigating and baiting as far as questioning some of my statements in the other thread that is fine, i am all for that, and I didnt say I have a major in political science lets end this, I said I have I degree in political science, so i would like to think I know whats going on in my own country. Dont put words in my mouth, and stop baiting people, thats what I am saying |
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"a little close to home, the truth stings..." actually i dont know exactly what you are implying here, thats why i asked you what you meant by it. major-degree whatever im not to well into how that stuff works over there in the us. sorry for any inconvinience caused. stooping down to my level?? what have i done which is in the same level as wanting someone banned? and now you are probably going to write something like "im not going to argue with you because im above that blahablaha.." well, i have the right to speak up for myself you know.. |
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I just threw the stooping down to your level comment in for instigation to see how you like it when people bait (as you did with earthleakage and I)... no worries your totally right people have a right to speak for themselves. I totally agree Cant we all just get along? peppermint schnops at my place? Woozle woozie weee my brotha |
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Well son, capitalism is the ... essence, if you will, of the psychological, and PHYSIOLOGICAL deeply nested need in all life forms, including australopithicas austromymamus, commonly called alligator byfoids, for the UNDERSTANDING of their undermining physical inheritence, freewill if you will, and purpose and part in the fabric of reality. |
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How can it be human nature when capitalism has only been around for a few hundred years (a relatively short period of time in the trajectory of human history)? |
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"How can it be human nature when capitalism has only been around for a few hundred years (a relatively short period of time in the trajectory of human history)?" Nice to see a brain here! Where's Korben when we need him? Human nature is to waste the land, end resources, become thing, exploit, work, die from curable disease, consume, need what they want u to need, buy what they sell you, belive what they tell you... bah, I don't think so. |
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oh dear, you are all missing the clear point. Capitalism is indeed one of the most successful devices used so far to perpetuate civilisations (by Capitalism I am referring to the market economy system, global or local). Human nature is a combination of evolutionary traits which are designed (ie have been successful so far, by definition) to make our genes perpetuate. By comparing the general traits of our evolved human nature to the devices of market economy, it has been found (experimentally) that it is analogous to our sense of fair play in most cases (obviously the exception that proves the rule will be put to me). What I mean is: it's the most difficult system to 'cheat your way' in. In other words getting something for nothing, while others make all the work/sacrifices. the most comprehensive book about this is the blank state by steven pinker. |
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the most comprehensive book about this is Guerrilla Warfare by Ernesto Che Guevara |
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Capitalism to my knowledge is not an ism..as in it is not a formalised school of thought...so there is no doctrine to subscribe and analyze and postulate whether it's true to human nature or not..like Ceri said it most marked aspects are the closest to Survival of the fittest and Social Darwinism...hence some might say it is the closest to "human nature"... but.. Humans are a communal animal..it's its ability to form communities thast led to Civilisations...not the every man and dog for himself ethic....are you suggesting that this progress was "against human nature"?? |
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