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When i use the term IDM i do so so with regret as i wish it would just fuck off. But i guess the question applies for musicians of all types who may be at the top of their game but not at all known in general. I suppose it comes down to unit sales and whether appearing live or dj, what maybe a couple or three, times a month will cover the bills. I'd love to know. Do you reckon most warp and rephlex artists have "everyday" jobs to support their music making - to buy new equipment and to pay the bills? Or can they get away with not working? I've no idea about record sales for these artists might be. I'm know that the likes of AT+SP are out of this equation, but for the lesser known how many do you reckon they sell? As an example let's take Bogdan Raczynski. He's had quite a few releases in his time and i'm going to hazard a guess that he's sold a grand total of 50,000 units (god that took some thought :) of all formats. So, supposing he gets what, about one pound from all of those he's earned £50,000 from sales. Is that enough over the last five or so years to warrant no further income? How many guest appearances does the man do? Not too many really. I read in an inteview that the snaresman said he had a few other "bits and pieces" aside from music that helps keep things rolling. Be good to know what i reckon!! Window cleaner perhaps! Twenty quid says it's McDonalds. No, no... gynocologist |
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(obviously BR would get dollars not her majesty's sterling) |
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most of them work besides making music. the market for this kind of music is tiny, the production is enormous. |
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I mean, the amount of records produced.. |
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i think most of the musicians make money by DJing & gigs |
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I think aphex twin and squarepusher dont have other jobs... in a plaid interview they said that they are living off their releases and doing just music now. Other then that, I dont think there are many other "IDM" people that can make a living off of their productions |
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Yep, i think somaybe not Aphex or Squarepusher, but I think the majority cant live off of their music, especially not in these times were the overall record sales are down |
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I guess if you love making music you're going to do it regardless of how many records you sell. But imagine if you're some guy, sitting behind a computer, making amazing tracks, with an army of fans, but when you go into work, you're just another one of the drones in the eyes of your manager. Hard to imagine, but it must be true in some cases. |
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i'l always do sopmethgin else as a real job i would never do music as a job, coz there's somethgin inhererently conceited about it. or thats how i feel about me doign it anyways. uh? |
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so if a label heard your stuff and offered you a load of cash to release you'd say no. of course. |
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i make lots of money because im cool |
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That's what your pimp tells you, anyways, flattytanps Doesn't Cylob double as a Johnny Vegas Impersonator? |
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Is your avatar Fes from that 70s show or Eric Estrada? |
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I could live with being a drone in the eyes of my boss. (which is the truth at the moment). And have another 'secret identity'. Working on that last bit though. I'm now in the demo phase. so I hope there will come a time when I get something on vinyl or CD. For now its just online mp3's. |
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I know what you mean- it seems "wrong" to just do music making as a job... If I were in the position where I could make enough money doing music, I'd still do some "real work" on the side. Ideally I'd like to be a DB consultant and work when I wanted to fit around music making etc. |
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c738 ... just listened to "fade away" and "plastic bag" .very very nice indeed. You play live? Thats exaclty the kind of electronica going on in Dublin in a few pubs these days.. hats off to ya |
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i produce IDM as a job, not a very well paid job, i havent done a proper job for 2 years. I also do freelance music for animations/adverts etc but thats not IDM. ______________________________ |
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Are you the IDM artist Global Goon? Or just using his name for your zebox site? |
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bogdan 50,000 sales = not likely |
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i killed him and stole his zebox site |
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that's a coincidence--check out my zebox site: www.zebox.com/aphextwin |
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it doesn'y exist ?:( ______________________ |
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I think he was jokingly saying he killed rich and took his site. That zeebox site doesn't exist. Are you going to attach that add banner to all your posts from now on? Maybe I could pay for my memebership her by having a company sponsor my posts with their logo ;) |
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Time I checked out Global Goon I reckon... |
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no of course not ceriJC |
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hey my advert worked! |
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Yes, I was just kiddin' around - my real zebox site is: zebox.com/pfs! :D |
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including the exclamation? |
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please put the king of pop in every post !!!!!!!! :) |
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do you have problems uploading to that site? im on 56k and it fails to upload 96% of the time |
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It usually just takes an age to upload :-/ (for me) |
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it always come up with "the page contained no data" after about 15minutes |
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i can levitate stuff |
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90% of those tracks are 'live home recordings'. That fade away track was based on a midi project of 1 bar (2 second loop). I am too lazy to arrange things to a complete track. Just loops and doing stuff on mixer and tweaking the filters. |
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That's odd--cos I was on the crappiest of crappy 28k modems, and it worked, albeit very slowly--gosh that sucks |
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nice carpet J-Hok! |
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(Jamesa) "so if a label heard your stuff and offered you a load of cash to release you'd say no. of course." DUDE! I said I'd never do it for a fucking LIVING! Like I'd take all their fuckin' money, I just would never say "OK that's it, I'm fan-fucking-tastic, so I'm gonna quit my day job and rely on making music for a job" In my opinion this would be a dumb thing for me to do. Besides, this oppourtunity aint never gonna happen so who cares, B? |
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thanx c738, its not my carpet though, its in my parents house below is a composite picture i took of their lounge. On the wall is a self portrait i did on an art foundation course in the mid 80's |
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Global Goon - Nice stuff. I like. |
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I'm a sucker for advertising |
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I don't understand- I knew you were thinking of moving, but are you advertising your house now? ;) Re: Zebox- I find ULing tracks to MP3.com fails about 80% of the time and I'm on broadband. It's so annoying. I really should buy some webspace and put my tracks there... |
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cool, another track will be up 2 nite, and im working on more shtuff at this very precise moment |
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my webspace for j-hok.com is only $60 per year for 300 megs storage but the bandwidth is a problem - only 5gigs per month |
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Hey, it was good to see Michael Jackson holding that kid over the balcony the other day... ...usually he just tosses them off !!! |
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od_step_cloak: - fair play, i get what ya mean! j-hok: - so how many units has he sold you reckon? would be interesting to see sales for all our favourite artists actually, just for the sake of interest. |
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if i got paid for it, thatd be great |
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the plan is to make a living off of my music... *crosses fingers* |
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Interviews pay's too sometimes doesn't it? I think most of them makes a living on the dj'ing , music for adds and remixes pay alot i think. Dnb producer Dillinja build sound systems for clubbs. |
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"Interviews pay's too sometimes doesn't it?" dont think so? pay for remixes varies widely - from a few hundred quid for most producers to 10's of thousands for big boys. bogdan sales - i dunno, but 50,000 sounds like a hell of a lot! how many albums has he released? he probably sold about 5000 for his rephlex albums, smaller labels than rephlex would probably be much less |
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i plan to make my living off of film scores/commercials etc (indie films, or blockbuster... what ever i can get) and release my own music just because i want to |
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