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are you going to see: eight frozen modules lexaunculpt daedelus edIT *$5 * the echo on 1822 sunset blvd in echo park, going to be pretty cool, and only 5 bucks, I am going, lexaunculpt might be selling his album there, its tonight... :*) |
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lol |
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meen rrocks |
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:) |
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yeah because of this topic i've become an 'addict'... |
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actually i thought i was going to go see neotropic, who has nice visuals - chill music. saw her once in NY. (di i have the right night) the others? not to familiar. saw reuben wu (from ladytron) on saturday there. the intermission dj was good, and the opening retro boys were fun to boog to,,, and while wu played some good tracks- he was a terrible jockey. i'm not even sure what he was doing up there with his headphones. but yeah i go there occasionally. |
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but if you so much as darre to not post for 6.3 seconds you will become a lurrkerr again. |
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i hate drug topics |
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oh but i had a topic of homemade wine, thats a drug as well, so i'll be hating myself |
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yes i'll get over it |
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drugs are fine as long as it used in corilation with a social setting its bad when you do them by yourself... ... thats when problems happen illfates you ever read any book by Carlos Castenada? you might like em |
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i don't carre if someone takes drrugs and theirr experriences. i don't carre if people take drrugs and i don't carre if they don't, borring.. next |
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mickey, how about a bit on those other artists? |
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you can't make music for yourself forever. as close to fact as you can come-- eventually an artist's output demands an audience. Anyone who claims they make art for just themselves is full of shit. |
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I would have to agree to disagree with you on that illfates. :*) xian_ecci Also, you can hear some lexaunculpt songs of his new album |
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"...can expand your conciousness, in that you may see things from a wider perspective away from the "ego" and in a more objective way..." how about instead of a wider perspective how bout a new and unique perspective not attainable by any other means |
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MM- thanx for linx. give me a heads up if you show,,, i'll be wearing a nametag and carrying a pitchfork. |
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while drugs can give you some insight...they also will permentally be bad for your mind... while i enjoyed some of my drug experiences... i regret it now simply because it has made me that much sharp in a competive world... ie. school and money.... if you plan on working at a gas station all you're life then you have no reason not to do drugs... if you want to make more money then ususally being smart is the key. |
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well I haven't tried this stuff and I never will (probably) as it is almost sure to fuck up my mind (schizophrenia in the family..!). if you learn something for your drug use, great. if you learn something from sitting in a chair and staring at a speck of dust, great. it doesn't really matter. on the making music for yourself thing: I make music primarily for myself and also to give it to other people to listen to. however, when I'm making it, I never (consciously at least) try to make something that'll affect someone else in a specific way. then I'm just trying to make something that affects myself. trying to find out how other people react to music and trying to implement that, seems to me to be impossible. |
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ummm... I don't know how to respond to individual posts (someone inform me, please!) but this is in response to illfates posts... some of the most intriguing I've seen here in a while (I normally lurk). I'm now 25 and don't take psychs anymore... I don't really do much of anything anymore except the (very) occasional pill or bit of charlie... I'm mainly a smokin' and drinkin' person (far more insidious drugs if you ask me!) but when I was 17-20 I did a lot of acid and shrooms... This was long before I was familiar with any IDM (puke... I hate that term). And I can see a lot of parallels with your experiences. Fractal images are well common and I can't explain why, but Terence McKenna had some interesting theories... Aztec art is not fractal, but it is very geometric and repetitive. McKenna had a very interesting theory that it was all based on the experiences of the Aztec elite (ie artists and priests) for whom the ingestion of psychedelics was a sacrament - basically they were creating a facsimile in their art of their experiences whilst under the influence of psych drugs. This is plainly obvious to anyone with psych drug experience who's also seen any aztec art. Also, interestingly, the human brain has fractal dimension in itself. I've also had similar experiences in a group of close friends not having to complete sentences in conversation whilst under the influence... The meaning is sorta implied in some strange way. So don't worry, you're not crazy... these sort of things are pretty common IMHO. Fractal programs : FRACTINT!!!!! I have spent many a happy hour looking at images from this program whilst tripping... You can d/l it from www.spanky.triumf.ca I think. Finally, FWIW, I've gone from Lurker to Reg to Addict and back to Lurker again in the space of 2 weeks... Have fun exploring, illfates. And listen to some Tangerine Dream while tripping, too, it's fun. |
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dxm will break you |
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a lot of negative claims about drugs coming through this thread that are based on people imposing their experience or lack there of on other's. life is very subjective, as is drug use. exogenous chemical induced alterations in quality of consciousness is not "bad" or "good." drugs don't "permanently damage your mind" and they don't make you see god. chemical agents, both "natural" and lab made have the potential to be and do all of these things. i don't understand how you can question somebody seeing god on a psychedelic. all of our ancesters first discovered this universal human experience often felt to be the presence of "god" through the use of psychoactives. seeing "god" in itself is not even a good thing. the experience can be used as an inspiration for living more compassionately and harmonious, or it can be taken for granted along with any other outcome. personal responibility. objectively as i can see it, we have evolved with the chemicals we are made of and the quality of consciousness we have by natural selection; the sober mind state is one that is advantagous to life. obviously being in the psychedelic realm all of our life might be detrimental, rendering us unable to cope with life. this does not mean that there aren't advantages to taking occasional journeys to other mindstates with chemicals. if such experiences turn you off, there is probably no reason you should investigate such realms. if you had a bad experience with drugs, it does mean everyone has bad experiences with drugs and you shouldn't impose your experience on others. like fire, drugs are potentially dangerous, more so even, but does this warrant the intense tabu that exists? |
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i've had the experience of not needing to finish sentances. when you reach a certain level of sensitivity like that induced by the psychedelics you can really closely match eachother's mindstate. i think if we evolve in sensitivity, communication will likely evolve alongside, more going on with tone of voice, facial expression, body language, than the symbolic commincation of the language itself. maybe language will someday be left to text? all of our vocals could be spontaneous transmissions of nonsymbolic sound. interesting how much lyricless vocal music coming out. |
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that sensitivity is a human skill i consider myself to be quite empathatic how i got this way is a bit of a long story but i tell you what i see so many lost people and often enuf i feel just like that i have my battle-scars of the good times often i feel old beyond my years but i have emerged as a lover of people much like meen was saying, ive had doors shut and open im thankful that ive been able to work back in recent times, boot some old doors open again and let the air thru thats come from a few hard lessons and some big scares |
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Lots of drugs bring up different feeling emotions, thoughts and thought processes. It does literally open doors for you in your mind, but its kind of a lie too because its not really that way either. There is no real truth and any useful learning from drugs. |
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JUST SAY NO! |
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