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jupitah
from Minneapolis (United States) on 2002-11-26 21:31 [#00457699]
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hehehe, yes hold on for the boundaries will soon disappear, and you can do nothing but accept it.
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Iroel
from Pisa (Italy) on 2002-11-26 21:32 [#00457700]
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I would say more melodic for me...
I can apreciate a good melody without percussions (I believe this is what you meant), but a song with alot of percussion and no melody is not really my ideal...
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Amonbrune
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-11-26 21:32 [#00457702]
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To me, percussion is like the graphics in a videogame and the melody is like the fun factor. graphics arn't everything its how the game plays and if you have fun.
All this 'yeah the beat is just so wicked'... is kinda pointless. it irritates me after awhile. we have this radiostation called The Beat...and its just so lame! There's more to music than 'the beat'.
Melody is FAR more important that beats as far as im concerned.
ratio is about (music / beat) 65:45
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Iroel
from Pisa (Italy) on 2002-11-26 21:32 [#00457703]
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nevr mind, that's what you meant =P
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jupitah
from Minneapolis (United States) on 2002-11-26 21:34 [#00457704]
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i just can't differentiate their worth. sure melody is important, but think of a song with a melody you love and take the percussion away and how much do you love the song now? and vice versa of course.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2002-11-26 21:37 [#00457710]
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Frank Zappa said that writing about music is like dancing about architecture. I say, that would be some kinda dancing!
I still want to see some modern dance troupe choreograph something to rpeg off ep7.
The floors are melting, are melting, the horizons are like buttah.
Somehow I like the idea that much smarter people than me, like Hofstadter, can write articles that meaningfully compare Bach counterpoint to chinese calligraphy, fractals, binary code and Escher tesselations. Me, I'm too toopid.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2002-11-26 21:42 [#00457717]
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To me, percussion is like the graphics in a videogame and the melody is like the fun factor.
I like that! But then what's the soundtrack? :-)
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Amonbrune
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-11-26 21:44 [#00457719]
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i meant a video game like Pong
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jupitah
from Minneapolis (United States) on 2002-11-26 21:44 [#00457720]
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my dad has it, but i could never be bothered to read that book. it's a fascinating concept and all, but i already know that everything is infinitely interconnected to everything and so of course there will be overlap between escher and bach and whoever that mathmatician is. it's like what max's math guru (from the film pi) said about 213 "pretty soon you'll find it everwhere." infinite interconnectedness. i appreciate that folks like hofstadter are getting into the thick of it, but i can't go that route.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-11-26 22:23 [#00457754]
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fleetmouse: yeah i study music.
it doesnt kill anything to analyze music. if anything, i enjoy it more.
but its not for everyone, and I can see why it would bother them. but hey, whatever makes people happy. if someones joy is to just listen, so be it. if its someones joy to analyze it all, who am I, or anyone, to say that he is wrong, and shouldnt do it/enjoy it.
however, one thing that bothers me, is when people listen to music and tell me the chords and scale the melody is played on etc.
maybe because i cant do it... but mainly i just find it fucking annoying, cause they arnt listening to the emotion, they are listening to theory.
i always listen subjectivly, but when i want to, i become objective and observant.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-11-26 22:26 [#00457761]
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*oh, and about practicing
i dont ever practice my bass
in fact i hate playing
i just like to write music and do synthesis
im not a performer.
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jupitah
from Minneapolis (United States) on 2002-11-26 22:29 [#00457764]
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that makes perfect sense to me, from what i know of you on this board anyhow
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-11-26 22:32 [#00457770]
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how so?
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Amonbrune
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-11-26 22:33 [#00457772]
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Is it alright for a composer to not be able to play anything? Say you did lots of great works but couldn't play for your life, is that allowed in music?
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jupitah
from Minneapolis (United States) on 2002-11-26 22:35 [#00457777]
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sorry, i couldn't point out anything specific, it just seems to fit. of course this is based off of my limited exposure to your textual self.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-11-26 22:36 [#00457780]
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who said i cant play?
i just said i didnt like to.
but i am learning piano. and i find it much more enjoyable. so maybe i just had the wrong instrument all along
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jupitah
from Minneapolis (United States) on 2002-11-26 22:37 [#00457782]
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i need to learn piano
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-11-26 22:37 [#00457783]
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as in im on here so much, it would seem that i never practice...
or, where you refering to the fact that im a composer?
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-11-26 22:38 [#00457785]
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*and i used to play drums for 4 years.
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jupitah
from Minneapolis (United States) on 2002-11-26 22:39 [#00457786]
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composer. i really am not basing it off of any direct idea i have about you. i just read it, and it sounded right is all.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-11-26 22:40 [#00457787]
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ah :)
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jupitah
from Minneapolis (United States) on 2002-11-26 22:40 [#00457788]
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if you would have said you were a total freeform guitarist who likes to solo i might have been confused.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-11-26 22:41 [#00457789]
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well, the first assumption would have been just as justified :)
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jupitah
from Minneapolis (United States) on 2002-11-26 22:41 [#00457790]
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do you have music available?
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-11-26 22:42 [#00457792]
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heheheh
nope. im a semi-reclusive that likes to sit in the dark of his room, write electronic music. (and various other kinds... but electronic is closest to my heart)
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jupitah
from Minneapolis (United States) on 2002-11-26 22:43 [#00457794]
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well be sure to let us know when you decide to unleash the beast:)
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-11-26 22:44 [#00457795]
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yep, here
I should be releasing a CD this summer. Well, lets put it this way, im releasing a CD, but the date could be subject to change.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2002-11-26 22:47 [#00457800]
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It's a neat book! When I first got it I spent weeks working through his little proof-of-concept logical exercises and trying to wrap my head around Godel's incompleteness theorem etc. Eventually though it got to be too much and I just skipped to the good parts like the Zen koans and shit.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-11-26 22:48 [#00457802]
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ah, nope was in reply to being a guitarist. :)
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