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offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-11-19 08:51 [#00448077]
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My dad is an amateur painter (well, he's sold stuff, but
never enough to make a living), recently he has framed some
of his abstract paintings from over the years (about 30
years from oldest to most recent).

The paintings all look very different, yet all off
them have a rectangle longer in the vertical axis in the
bottom left hand corner. He noticed they were all similair
proportions. He measured them and found they were very close
to the golden ratio, despite the fact he had drawn them
years apart, without looking at the other pictures and
hadn't heard of the golden ratio when he had drawn 2 of
them...


 

offline BILE from São Paulo (Brazil) on 2002-11-19 08:53 [#00448078]
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what the heck is the "golden ratio"?


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-11-19 08:55 [#00448081]
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1:1.618...etc. it's linked to Pi. Lots of stuff i nature and
art follows it. Do a google search...


 

offline JAroen from the pineal gland on 2002-11-19 08:56 [#00448082]
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A is to B as B is to C

try fibbonacci numbers


 

offline phunqie on 2002-11-19 08:59 [#00448083]
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or a mb search


 

offline BILE from São Paulo (Brazil) on 2002-11-19 09:01 [#00448084]
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sounds boring...


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-11-19 09:01 [#00448085]
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Yep.


 

offline steve mcqueen from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2002-11-19 09:28 [#00448091]
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if stuff with the golden proportion in just look 'nice',
like paintings sculptures faces hands bodies etc., then you
are gonna naturally (subconciously) draw stuff which is near
to the golden ratio... or so i reckon, makes sense?

music based on this sounds shit though, imo, fibonacci stuff
especially.... bo-ring.


 

offline patrik from Keele (United Kingdom) on 2002-11-19 09:47 [#00448106]
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I think it's fascinating. the greek's used it a lot in their
architecture.


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-11-19 10:23 [#00448123]
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I agree, but its the fact they were abstract pictures that I
found interesting. Order in Chaos etc. :)


 

offline KainiIndustries from over the roof floats billy on 2002-11-19 11:47 [#00448188]
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It crops up everywhere - The shells of snails, plant
structures, architecture, the ratio of different parts of
the human body to each other, and lots of boards of canada's
music too.


 

offline DonkeyRhubarb from Saegertown, PA (United States) on 2002-11-19 12:15 [#00448223]
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coffee, whirpools, tornados...
spiral out, keep going

= )


 

offline Inverted Whale from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2002-11-19 12:19 [#00448227]
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My favorite coffee cup has a golden ratio.


 

offline Bob Mcbob on 2002-11-19 14:23 [#00448335]
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the golden ratio is better then the silver ratio...your dad
should be very proud.


 

offline xian_ecci from los angeles on 2002-11-19 16:58 [#00448528]
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boring to talk about, ye.
but i've always been curious,,, the notes-
naturals, sharps, and flats. chords and dischords.
scales.

i know the premise behing the use of the golden rectangle by
palladio and later by jefferson, corbusier, etc. was that it
evoked a sense of harmony- you looked at the pieces, and
they were in a 'pleasing' arrangement. this isn't to say
that creative works must follow this, since the goal is many
times not comfort.
color theory has related principles. there are even
different strobe speeds that are believed to alter one's
emotions. metaphysics has feng shui type-shit.

so, with music, what is the deal? is there a set note /
tempo / rhythm structure that underlies all music?
is there a universal 'ratio' to music?
circle of fifths, or whatever.
different cultures have music that uses use inherently
different chord structures, tones, etc. But they often fuse
pretty nicely.

i'm sure there's some people out there who know more than i
on music theory,
but anything would be interesting.


 


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