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now, before we start, let me just say one thing. I am a musician, and have been working on a PC for my entire production life - and it has had some great times, and some bad times. When i first decided to switch to a Mac, which was actually very recent, i was really not sure how to go about it. I have used my buddy's mac, and a few others - and i love them - they are so great! So - i just wanna ask - what do all the MUSICIANs here think of macs, i dont want some loud mouth like rephlex gettin in here and stating his opinion (btw, i have been an afx.nu user for a LONG time, almost a year and a half now) i want some honest opinions from the creative side of things - and maybe from the technical side - please, biased opinions wont help me get anywhere - thnx |
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they are really good for audio - and that you want one too |
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*bumpitty bump* well i kinda already told you all the reasons for switching in our MSN chat, but yea, love my mac, its a nice tune makin machine. |
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Wow! How cool....you used the words 'Apple' and 'computer' in the same sentence... ;-) |
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you on a mac? |
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yes, uh - that is cool there buddy - *pats polynomial-c on the shoulder* |
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They are great for multimedia. They easily can excell PCs when doing larger things dealing with audio and visual. thats what they were pretty much made for. |
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i got my i mac last week and am getting reason 2 , i love my mac there more user friendy but im still getting to grips with 2 operating systems i have osx and os9 will get rid of 9 when osx support gets better ,this is not biased because ive used both. macs rule! |
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Macs are better, better looking, better quality, sharper.... |
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I have been a mac user all my life.... I have three in my house.... but I also use pc's a lot all the time... I think my opinion is pretty non biased... so here is what I think: Macs are incredibly easy to use. The operating system is great and easy to get around. I am running both OS X and OS 9.xx on various machines. Problem I see is this. You got a company that is trying to "switch" from one OS to another. The new operating system is really great. I cant rave about it enough. But there ARE some down sides to it. Not in the sense of the programming. But in terms of moving all of your OS 9 work to your OSX machine. This especially goes if you are using a lot of app's. For example... a lot of small software companies are probubly not going to port to the new os. I am talking shareware and free ware apps here. But a lot of the major audio programs are being worked on, or allready ported... Reaktor, Digital Performer, Reason, MAX/MSP, Super Collider, Peak, Pretty much all Native Instruments programs... but some will take a while to be availible. Most new machines now are just OS X. So this could be a bad thing if you want to have more options. But the Mac is a great machine to do audio in, especially dealing with midi in OS X. I have also done work with pc audio too. And it has some great things as well. For example.. fruityloops is just for pc, acid is as well.... and a lot of trackers of available. Trackers are not available on macs just yet. Also... its a lot easier to code on a pc... so you have more audio applications being developed for it... and slightly more vst plug-ins. Handling MIDI on a pc can kindoff be a pain... but you get used to it. A lot of little things (that I find most important) like those wierd shareware or freeware apps youll find a lot more on the pc. And you will definatly have more of a selection as far as choosing app's. Macs are going to be getting more and more people coding on it, due to the unix core.. so this might mean more programs. I know that a lot of people |
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..... are making vst - plugins for mac now... and there are some app's like MAX/MSP and super collider that are just for mac. But just because you have a mac is not going to mean your going to be making your tracks better, or that youll have amazing super dsp powers... it will maybe make it easier for you to do that.. but if anything.. you might be a little limited as far as application availability. You can produce good quality music on a pc and on a mac. It just all has to do with personal preference. But in the end I would choose a mac ... this is all just my opion.... |
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Diehard mac user here. All i know is that it's a great platform for doing graphics & video work, which is what I do. I know you're interested in audio, so I'll let the others speak their sentiments. Everything I've heard from people who use macs for audio say they are far superior, just because of the programs available and the easier setup of components and I/O. |
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wow - thanks for the great posts guys! |
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now, i was wondering - what model Mac would be the best to suit my needs? musician, need a desktop computer - am really looking towards getting a G4 tower - but dont exactly have the cash for it - any suggestions? |
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yeah thats the Power Mac G4 - dual 1ghz processors with SuperDrive - amazing machine :D |
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Indeed! I love my 867 G4 w/super drive. If you are getting a desktop like the G4 tower... make sure you dont want to take it anywhere.... because toting around a G4 to a live set is VERY bad. I cant believe the power books are up to 1 ghz! |
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yeah - they are nuts - i want one SO bad - i just need a way to get the money |
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Yes..... me too. If you go to a school, and buy directly from the apple site... you can get a student discount. And that helps out a bit..... also try macmall... they have good deals on hardware and throw in a lot of free RAM |
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i got my imac 700 cd rw for 1000 pounds i hate pc world but the offer was to good plus i got a didgi camera for free ! |
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i love my macs but i think the only thing i don't like about them is that they'll never be like pcs in that you couldn't really build your own or repair one that easily... you know, kinda like, if the worm turns tomorrow and my imac breaks down, what the fuck am i gonna do? use my pc i suppose :( they're a brand too, but a brand like the virgin cinema special screens where everything is done for you (snacks+drinks served etc.) and you have a real hard time feeling guilty about it :) |
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i'm a pc junkie, but i hear macs are more compatible for graphix/sound editing purposes |
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corticalstim, if you're going to do a lot of audio work, and you're not going through USB interface, you'll probably need a G4 tower. You can get a used or discontinued model that's just as capable as the brand new ones for less money, i have a 466mHz G4 tower from 2001, and it's still incredibly powerful. If you're not going to install any audio interface boards, or just going through USB audio, you can get by with an iMac. The new ones use a G4 processor. |
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alls i can say, is get the fastest, best computor possible. for audio, and for lifespan. im currently saving for a powerbook, which will suit my needs fine, esp since I want to perform live, and i need portability for school (I do music, and I need to be able to take my powerbook around with me to plug into the synth stations) but if portability isnt an issue, get the best tower you can afford. i cant stress that enough. |
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*didnt mean to downplay the powerbooks. they are amazing, and will suit your needs for music, but towers are generally better, in that you can have more disk space (i have to buy a firewire hard drive) |
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firewire hard drives are fucking fast and are getting bigger/smaller all the time. that's capacity in GBs/size |
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i only have mac on work :.( i want my own god dammit! |
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i'm still using a 233MHz iMac for everything i do: internet, music (reason1), photoshop, word processing etc. you can forget games at that speed tho! |
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expensive... |
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worth the money... |
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I was chatting to Michael Law (veteran electronic artist) about this a week or so ago. It's his opinion that Macs are infinitley better for music production (in his studio there are 6 macs, 1 PC). I would say that if I was playing live I'd have to go with a mac. PCs (mine especially) are just too unstable. Mind you for studio work, PCs have the advantage of more software and P2P networks (IE free music software) for amateurs... |
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I've done a internship at a Larger Audio house that does sound for feature films and now I work at a studio that does sound for TV and commercials and they both use Macs. I own a PC myself and its crapped out on me too many times. The next computer I buy will be Mac forsure!!!! |
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