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           titsworth
             from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-11-11 17:46 [#00437572]
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multiple people, Jar... multiple people
  korben: i agree, that's the best solution (they'd get full  profits and we'd get the full catalogue to choose from  pretty much), however that's not till 2003 at the earliest.  in the meantime why not email these sites to get them to  make some cd's available? i'm not narrowing it down to large  corporations, i encourage people to email any online  retailer. i'm just really tired of being faced with the  choice of either nothing or extremely marked up imports. 
 
  
         
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           korben dallas
             from nz on 2002-11-11 17:53 [#00437588]
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titsworth: i guess .. but like mr. J, i too can generally  find what i'm looking for, only a few items like that cosmic  forces and such are hard to find. So to be honest, i'm  probably not quite as motivated as yourself to write them  emails. 
 
  2003 isn't that far away? 
 
  
         
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           Jarworski
             from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2002-11-11 17:54 [#00437592]
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Seems to me you're trying to change the system... well good  luck boyo, you'll need it. More than anyone I bet you  realise that it's a pretty big undertaking to try and change  what stores stock and consider worth selling.... like you  said, you live in a town (D.C. is a town? Excuse my  ignorance) and to even get major IDM releases must be  satisfactory. I mean, I live in the second biggest city in  my country and they stock a lot of IDM but I have no idea  who actually buys and listens to it, whereas every other  form of music has an obvious visual point - I ain't against  electronic music reaching more people but I think that it  has a very limited selling value, the hardcore fans will  sell out the initial releases and you have to accept that  compared to the new Robbie Williams album it isn't gonna get  the push that it deserves. 
 
  
         
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           titsworth
             from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-11-11 18:07 [#00437629]
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i live in washington, dc (capital of the united states) but  attend school in rural pennsylvania. i have no problem  finding idm cd's in dc, but trouble finding anything at all  of interest here at school (hence my reliance on BN.com --  great prices, free shipping).
 
  yes i'm trying to change the system. however i haven't asked  in my emails for places to "stock" the cd's (i'm trying to  be nice to splodgechops, i still don't understand what's  wrong about asking though) just that i want them. i think if  more people actually took the 5 minutes to follow the email  links 35 messages ago we COULD get some planet mu cd's on  those sites.
 
  i just looked thru bentcrayon.com and found a lot of nice  stuff (including cosmic forces of mu). however, their prices  are more than i'm used to (about $3 more per cd than i've  become accustomed to paying) PLUS they have s&h charges  (dunno what those are yet, and again i'm used to free s&h).  however, it's important to me to pay for the cd's so i'm  gonna narrow down my choices and order from there until the  bigger sites start stocking cd's or planet mu has a mart. 
 
  
         
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           Jarworski
             from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2002-11-11 18:14 [#00437643]
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Well good luck, however asking major outlets to accomodate  personal taste is usually a thankless and pointless task and  unless you get a massive following it probably won't happen  - think about it - 2000 members on this board, Aphex's  average sales for each album 50,000, compare that to Eminem  or Staind or even Korn and it looks bleak. But I support you  and remember, I am eternally pessimistic ;) 
 
  
         
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           MachineofGod
             from the land of halo's (United States) on 2002-11-11 18:17 [#00437650]
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titsworth you can get priority shipping or UPS or the  cheapest rate which is a dollar something through regular  postal service at bent crayon.   
 
  
         
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           titsworth
             from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-11-11 18:18 [#00437651]
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it's not like stores though.. these sites already carry  loads of idm, including selections from the planet mu  catalogue. i (and hopefully other people who've carried this  out) am just requesting some more. 
 
  
         
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           MachineofGod
             from the land of halo's (United States) on 2002-11-11 18:20 [#00437658]
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does aphex really sell 50,000? i still am really interested  in how much certain artists sell, like how much does fugazi  or godspeed you black emperor sell? 
 
  
         
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           MachineofGod
             from the land of halo's (United States) on 2002-11-11 18:22 [#00437661]
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i wish there was a site that listed how much every cd made  ever sold,thatd be cool.  not that sales are important to me  but ive always been curious. 
 
  
         
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           titsworth
             from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-11-11 18:26 [#00437672]
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fugazi had sold over a million albums (total, not a single  release) as of 1998
 
  if you want those figures you'll need to pay a hefty yearly  fee.. soundscan figures aren't open to the public 
 
  
         
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           MachineofGod
             from the land of halo's (United States) on 2002-11-11 18:31 [#00437686]
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million still seems high to me for fugazi, i figured not  even half of that for total.  if you think about it 13 songs  and repeater are the only really good selling fugazi albums,  steady diet---->end hits sold not nearly as well, end hits i  assume is the worst selling one, seems the least user  friendly as well. it is my favorite one matter of fact too
 
  whats your favorite fugazi album? also what do you think of  q and not u? i cant stand them. 
 
  
         
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           titsworth
             from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-11-11 18:36 [#00437696]
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the million plus is confirmed. ian mackaye is a friend of a  friend. the band has a worldwide following, it's probably  closer to 1.5 million by now.
 
  i liked q and not u for a while but they wore out their  welcome with me.. a little gimmicky. they were pretty good  live but i was the only person in the audience who didn't  know the crowd response gestures in the songs. fav fugazi  album, hmm.. 13 songs or maybe the argument. 
 
  
         
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           od_step_cloak
             from Pleth (Australia) on 2002-11-11 18:45 [#00437720]
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yeah hehe see this si why i amke my own stuff ok so i suck but hey i know where to find it and there's no  shipping charges.
 
  oh and it's free.
  im pretty well set for buying rekkids tho. rock on dadas
 
  
         
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           MachineofGod
             from the land of halo's (United States) on 2002-11-11 18:48 [#00437722]
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q and not u are like a bunch of college kids, oh my god i  cant stand looking at theyre album cover, listening to their  atrocious lyrics and they look so not dischord looking,  should have never been released on dischord if you ask me  and on like jade tree or some label with bands like the  promise ring or get up kids.  faraquet were\are so much  better than q and not u anyways. 
 
  
         
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           MachineofGod
             from the land of halo's (United States) on 2002-11-11 18:49 [#00437724]
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im not saying everyone looks the same at all on dischord all  im saying is that they dont (to me) fit the dischord agenda. 
 
  
         
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           earthleakage
             from tell the world you're winning on 2002-11-11 18:52 [#00437728]
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i'll update my sales thread tomorrow
 
  
         
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           LeCoeur
             from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2002-11-11 20:37 [#00437872]
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i think it's worth a email to these organizations to have  them TRY to stock some of the lesser known artists and make  them available to the general music buying peepz. 
 
  i agree supporting the smaller record stores is a good  thing, but they usually only have one copy of some of these  groups as well! 
 
  
         
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