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offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-11-11 17:46 [#00437572]
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multiple people, Jar... multiple people

korben: i agree, that's the best solution (they'd get full
profits and we'd get the full catalogue to choose from
pretty much), however that's not till 2003 at the earliest.
in the meantime why not email these sites to get them to
make some cd's available? i'm not narrowing it down to large
corporations, i encourage people to email any online
retailer. i'm just really tired of being faced with the
choice of either nothing or extremely marked up imports.


 

offline korben dallas from nz on 2002-11-11 17:53 [#00437588]
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titsworth: i guess .. but like mr. J, i too can generally
find what i'm looking for, only a few items like that cosmic
forces and such are hard to find. So to be honest, i'm
probably not quite as motivated as yourself to write them
emails.

2003 isn't that far away?


 

offline Jarworski from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2002-11-11 17:54 [#00437592]
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Seems to me you're trying to change the system... well good
luck boyo, you'll need it. More than anyone I bet you
realise that it's a pretty big undertaking to try and change
what stores stock and consider worth selling.... like you
said, you live in a town (D.C. is a town? Excuse my
ignorance) and to even get major IDM releases must be
satisfactory. I mean, I live in the second biggest city in
my country and they stock a lot of IDM but I have no idea
who actually buys and listens to it, whereas every other
form of music has an obvious visual point - I ain't against
electronic music reaching more people but I think that it
has a very limited selling value, the hardcore fans will
sell out the initial releases and you have to accept that
compared to the new Robbie Williams album it isn't gonna get
the push that it deserves.


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-11-11 18:07 [#00437629]
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i live in washington, dc (capital of the united states) but
attend school in rural pennsylvania. i have no problem
finding idm cd's in dc, but trouble finding anything at all
of interest here at school (hence my reliance on BN.com --
great prices, free shipping).

yes i'm trying to change the system. however i haven't asked
in my emails for places to "stock" the cd's (i'm trying to
be nice to splodgechops, i still don't understand what's
wrong about asking though) just that i want them. i think if
more people actually took the 5 minutes to follow the email
links 35 messages ago we COULD get some planet mu cd's on
those sites.

i just looked thru bentcrayon.com and found a lot of nice
stuff (including cosmic forces of mu). however, their prices
are more than i'm used to (about $3 more per cd than i've
become accustomed to paying) PLUS they have s&h charges
(dunno what those are yet, and again i'm used to free s&h).
however, it's important to me to pay for the cd's so i'm
gonna narrow down my choices and order from there until the
bigger sites start stocking cd's or planet mu has a mart.


 

offline Jarworski from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2002-11-11 18:14 [#00437643]
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Well good luck, however asking major outlets to accomodate
personal taste is usually a thankless and pointless task and
unless you get a massive following it probably won't happen
- think about it - 2000 members on this board, Aphex's
average sales for each album 50,000, compare that to Eminem
or Staind or even Korn and it looks bleak. But I support you
and remember, I am eternally pessimistic ;)


 

offline MachineofGod from the land of halo's (United States) on 2002-11-11 18:17 [#00437650]
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titsworth you can get priority shipping or UPS or the
cheapest rate which is a dollar something through regular
postal service at bent crayon.


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-11-11 18:18 [#00437651]
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it's not like stores though.. these sites already carry
loads of idm, including selections from the planet mu
catalogue. i (and hopefully other people who've carried this
out) am just requesting some more.


 

offline MachineofGod from the land of halo's (United States) on 2002-11-11 18:20 [#00437658]
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does aphex really sell 50,000? i still am really interested
in how much certain artists sell, like how much does fugazi
or godspeed you black emperor sell?


 

offline MachineofGod from the land of halo's (United States) on 2002-11-11 18:22 [#00437661]
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i wish there was a site that listed how much every cd made
ever sold,thatd be cool. not that sales are important to me
but ive always been curious.


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-11-11 18:26 [#00437672]
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fugazi had sold over a million albums (total, not a single
release) as of 1998

if you want those figures you'll need to pay a hefty yearly
fee.. soundscan figures aren't open to the public


 

offline MachineofGod from the land of halo's (United States) on 2002-11-11 18:31 [#00437686]
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million still seems high to me for fugazi, i figured not
even half of that for total. if you think about it 13 songs
and repeater are the only really good selling fugazi albums,
steady diet---->end hits sold not nearly as well, end hits i
assume is the worst selling one, seems the least user
friendly as well. it is my favorite one matter of fact too

whats your favorite fugazi album? also what do you think of
q and not u? i cant stand them.


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-11-11 18:36 [#00437696]
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the million plus is confirmed. ian mackaye is a friend of a
friend. the band has a worldwide following, it's probably
closer to 1.5 million by now.

i liked q and not u for a while but they wore out their
welcome with me.. a little gimmicky. they were pretty good
live but i was the only person in the audience who didn't
know the crowd response gestures in the songs. fav fugazi
album, hmm.. 13 songs or maybe the argument.


 

offline od_step_cloak from Pleth (Australia) on 2002-11-11 18:45 [#00437720]
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yeah hehe see this si why i amke my own stuff
ok so i suck but hey i know where to find it and there's no
shipping charges.

oh and it's free.

im pretty well set for buying rekkids tho.
rock on dadas


 

offline MachineofGod from the land of halo's (United States) on 2002-11-11 18:48 [#00437722]
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q and not u are like a bunch of college kids, oh my god i
cant stand looking at theyre album cover, listening to their
atrocious lyrics and they look so not dischord looking,
should have never been released on dischord if you ask me
and on like jade tree or some label with bands like the
promise ring or get up kids. faraquet were\are so much
better than q and not u anyways.


 

offline MachineofGod from the land of halo's (United States) on 2002-11-11 18:49 [#00437724]
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im not saying everyone looks the same at all on dischord all
im saying is that they dont (to me) fit the dischord agenda.


 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2002-11-11 18:52 [#00437728]
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i'll update my sales thread tomorrow


 

offline LeCoeur from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2002-11-11 20:37 [#00437872]
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i think it's worth a email to these organizations to have
them TRY to stock some of the lesser known artists and make
them available to the general music buying peepz.

i agree supporting the smaller record stores is a good
thing, but they usually only have one copy of some of these
groups as well!


 


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