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pOgO
from behind your belly button fluff on 2002-11-11 04:56 [#00436577]
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have you read the trivia for Seinfeld on IMDB ?
Apperently there's a superman in every episode =o.
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diablo
on 2002-11-11 05:12 [#00436594]
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Oh man that slap bass sends shivers down my spine...
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glass_eater
from a blind nerves area (Switzerland) on 2002-11-11 05:20 [#00436605]
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in every episode.... i never saw one!!!! :o,
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danbrusca
from Derbyshire (United Kingdom) on 2002-11-11 05:50 [#00436635]
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Trevor? I thought you got burned up? :P
Anyway, never did like Seinfeld. Since I've been here I've noticed that I seem to have different opinions on things to most people ;)
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diablo
on 2002-11-11 06:02 [#00436655]
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I never saw what was so funny about it... just seems too obvious and cheesy!
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Apt_Zet
from Afghanistan on 2002-11-11 06:17 [#00436680]
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I think that is half the point.
It is far and away my favorite show ever.
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glass_eater
from a blind nerves area (Switzerland) on 2002-11-11 07:07 [#00436720]
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pogo surrounded must know this one!!! :)
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KEYFUMBLER
from DUBLIN (Ireland) on 2002-11-11 07:56 [#00436739]
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i love "seinfeld"! The best American comedy along with Simpsons and Family guy.
Think of it... it has none of the freinds/rosanne/kramer "sasiness" or gags.. its based on complicated uncannily familiar story lines. Family guy and Simsons rely on satire which is great but Seindfeld is the ultimate "situation" comedy. George is my hero.....! It´s knowing the actors are laughing along with the jokes, its the entagled storyline, its the non formulaic tone...nothing has to be resolved at all with these guys... its just funny fucking stuff happening. A show about nothing....Who wants relationship development, will-they-won´t-they bollox?!! all the characters portray the side of us that is mean, nasty, unforgiving, petty, assholey, annioying, fidgety, nervous, pomposus, sloppy.... Its intelligent
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danbrusca
from Derbyshire (United Kingdom) on 2002-11-11 08:09 [#00436744]
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Pah, Frasier wipes the floor with it.
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KEYFUMBLER
from DUBLIN (Ireland) on 2002-11-11 08:22 [#00436759]
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arse.. Seinfled been going for 10+ series and has covered All of Kramers ground.... and hasn´t got the "jeeze those toffs are so goofy, what will they do next" flavour of Kramer. Plus british accents don NOT work in american sit-coms.. i´m sorry!
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diablo
on 2002-11-11 09:31 [#00436848]
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Ah I dunno, maybe it's just that slap bass that scares me
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danbrusca
from Derbyshire (United Kingdom) on 2002-11-11 09:44 [#00436867]
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However, Fraiser is funny, whereas Sienfeld isn't.
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Paco
from Gothenburg (Sweden) on 2002-11-11 09:50 [#00436872]
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I agree completely with KEYFUMBLER. Seinfeld is teh funny. I like how they (especially George) get completely stuck on little un-important things. Like when they're at Elaine's boyfriend's cardealership and the vending machine takes George's money. Then some fat mechanic comes and get the candybar. It's just impossible for George to calm down and let go.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-11-11 09:51 [#00436877]
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the wonderful thing about Seinfeld is, its not likeable. all the main characters are really egocentrical, only really looking out for themselves, in constant war with the world around them.
THATS what makes it so good.
but I also LOVE Frasier. its written so intelligently, it has great rhythm.
at the moment I think I prefer Frasier, but I still watch Seinfeld too..
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2002-11-11 10:01 [#00436886]
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Seinfeld along with The Simpsons is my favority comedy... both are excellent!!
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danbrusca
from Derbyshire (United Kingdom) on 2002-11-11 10:10 [#00436906]
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Actually, yeah, The Simpsons is great. I seem to keep overlooking it because it's animated, but it's probably the best satire on TV.
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glass_eater
from a blind nerves area (Switzerland) on 2002-11-11 10:11 [#00436911]
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futurama is even better i think...
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KEYFUMBLER
from DUBLIN (Ireland) on 2002-11-11 10:14 [#00436918]
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bang on Paco and Qtr!
...i do like frasier though!
Big shout to ... BBC´s "The Office" and anothe american(?) gem "Northern Expsore"
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2002-11-11 10:42 [#00436994]
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great topic! :-p
Apperently there's a superman in every episode =o
That is a myth. (altough people are still discussing this... maybe one day we will find a supeman in each and every episode?)
But still, there ALOT of episodes that do have a superman-reference. I think the count so far is that a 124 episodes DO feature superman.
For starters, there is a superman-refridgerator-magnet on Jerry's fridge. This accounts for a large number of the superman-sightings. (altough it only appeared for the first time in something like the 50th episode).
In later episodes there is also a small superman-statue in his appartment, that can be seen in lots of episodes :-)
But the best references are easily the verbal ones!
Jerry and george often have discussions about superman (for instance jerry thinks superman probably also has got super-humor, but george says he's never really heard him say anything funny).
It is pretty funny i guess... but i think they probably only thought of this idea after a few years... it would have been even cooler if they would have started with the superman-stuff in the first episode, and he truly would have been mentioned in each and every one of them :-p
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2002-11-11 10:51 [#00437014]
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I like how they always discuss how much to tip certain people... hehe... :)
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glass_eater
from a blind nerves area (Switzerland) on 2002-11-11 10:55 [#00437022]
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my fav episode i think is in the chinese restaurant! :)
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Phresch
from fucking Trondheim (Norway) on 2002-11-11 10:57 [#00437028]
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my fav. scene is when Kramer is testing out his new "shower". hehe.
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KEYFUMBLER
from DUBLIN (Ireland) on 2002-11-11 10:57 [#00437031]
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best line form each character
"bad lighting on the porch!".. gerry dating a chick who looks good in the right light
"i´m the complete opposite of every man you´ve ever met"... George acts the gentleman and DOESN´T take the opportunity of going up to his dates appartment..... backfiring his plan of being NOT-George!
"Jesus!".. Elaine exclaims after flicking through the pre-programmed christian rock channels on her car stereo after her boyfreind re-programmed them
"nyaghh".. general Kramer noise!
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-11-11 11:01 [#00437041]
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I love the episode "the bizarro jerry".. Elaine hits the nail on the head:
Elaine: Well! I can't spend the rest of my life coming into this stinking apartment every ten minutes to pore over the, excruciating minutia, of every, single, daily event..
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Paco
from Gothenburg (Sweden) on 2002-11-11 11:02 [#00437043]
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"You're an anti-dentite!" -Kramer
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2002-11-11 11:05 [#00437045]
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my absolute favorite seen is I believe in the episode where Jerry begins shaving his chest... anyways, Kramer tells him not to or something because it will grow out thicker... but Jerry doesn't believe him... so, Kramer procedes to show him... hehe, he's there in his bath robe and he steps behind the wall, outside of the camera view, but you see Jerry hit against the other wall trying to cover his eyes... it's hilarious!!! :)
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-11-11 11:12 [#00437058]
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the BEST episode is the one where Kramer salvages the set from The Merv Griffin Show from a dumpster and sets it up in his livingroom.
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Phresch
from fucking Trondheim (Norway) on 2002-11-11 11:13 [#00437062]
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lol! yeah, i remember that one!! classic.
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KEYFUMBLER
from DUBLIN (Ireland) on 2002-11-11 11:14 [#00437063]
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hairy chest scene is classic!
Elaine... the best female persona ever created on TV cos she can go from being a fucking money grabbing bitch to being a feminie, sexy charmer in 2 nanoseconds. Remember her in hypnotic shock as Gerry counts his wages! She´s amazing, intelligent, horny, greedy, sexy, ugl, clucky, frigid... yet, somehow consistant!
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-11-11 11:15 [#00437064]
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yeah I love Elaine too.. she's dangerous!
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2002-11-11 12:05 [#00437157]
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Almost every episode is great ;-)
But my favourite one is probably the one where Kramer adopts a stretch of highway, just so he can keep it clean. (And later he also decides to make the lanes wider).
The plot on that one was so clever... each and every storyline connects with another... until finally they all come together (elaine enjoys the luxury of Kramer's extrawide lane so much, she starts driving a little wild... and so a sowing-machine falls from her car.
Then Kramer accidently tips over a huge barrel of paint-thinner (i think...) he wanted to use to remove the gray paint from the white lines he painted over.
Newman hits the sowing-machine with his car and drags it along for a bit... causing sparks to fly as it scrapes across the highway.
And then when he hits the paint-thinner, his entire car goes up in flames :-p
(i seem to remember there was also a good reason why elaine was transporting an old sowing-machine... hm... can't seem to remember, but somehow this entire series of random events all led up to Newman's car going up in flames... brilliant :-p
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2002-11-11 12:06 [#00437160]
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incidently, i also think Newman is a very underrated character!
He's just so funny as jerry's nemesis, and he plays his part brilliantly :-p
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glass_eater
from a blind nerves area (Switzerland) on 2002-11-11 12:10 [#00437166]
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oh yeah with his bigs choco coco cakes or somethin' newmans cool! jerry sayin -ho no! newman again! ;)
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2002-11-11 12:14 [#00437174]
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lol, now that was a classic! He took that one really far... arranging a "candy line-up" and everything... just to prove his point... you've got to love that! Like you said: he always makes a big fuss about nothing.
Who could forget the time he actually planned an entire trip (by airplane!) just so he could get even with this one guy who said: "Hey george, the ocean called, they're running out of shrimp".
I must agree Frasier is also really good though... i love the contrast between Niles & Frasier and their father. Them being too well-educated elitist, and the father "the common man"... on paper it looks a complete disaster, but somehow they always manage to make great comedy out of that contradiction! Excellent show.
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2002-11-11 12:15 [#00437176]
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"next thing you know, you'll be saying they should have their own schools!"
Jerry: "they have their own schools!"
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chambre noire
from Iceland on 2002-11-11 12:16 [#00437178]
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hellooooooooo nüman.
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KEYFUMBLER
from DUBLIN (Ireland) on 2002-11-11 12:18 [#00437182]
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early seindelf was dodgey, methinks.....
ya can´t beat the last epsiode.. they´re all in jail with nothing to talk about as if they were never really freinds!!... subtle, downplayed, perfect!
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KEYFUMBLER
from DUBLIN (Ireland) on 2002-11-11 12:19 [#00437185]
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"is anyone here a marine biologist?"
CLASSIC!!!!!
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2002-11-11 12:19 [#00437187]
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Numan is the best... he makes the show for me really, his little parts are always the best parts of the episodes... and Kramer is the best main character there...
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2002-11-11 12:21 [#00437190]
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and the thing they start talking about, Georges button, was the very first conversation topic on the show I'm pretty sure...
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KEYFUMBLER
from DUBLIN (Ireland) on 2002-11-11 12:22 [#00437192]
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.. ahhhh... that would be just about right i reckon, funk!
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2002-11-11 12:23 [#00437193]
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indeed! Obviously you know your seinfelf-trivia pretty well ;-) Excellent!
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2002-11-11 12:39 [#00437208]
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hehe, well I try... :)
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2002-11-11 12:48 [#00437213]
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"oh yeah with his bigs choco coco cakes or somethin'"
Are you talking about the muffin-tops episode? (also the episode funkmaster talked about :-p Jerry shaving his chesthair)
Elaine had a store that only sold muffin-tops, and they had no way for disposing the other part of the muffin. But then Kramer says he know someone who specializes in cases like this... and it's Newman :-p Complete with a sportcar and sunglasses... and a suitcase filled with bottles of milk to wash all the muffins down with... hehe, that was one of the best endings of a seinfeld-episode ever!
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-11-11 13:34 [#00437246]
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Art Vandelay.. love the episode with the parade.. and they all need to piss and use all the different names like Vandelay to purvey a house just so they can use the toilet.. :)
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2002-11-11 13:45 [#00437268]
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You mean H.E Pennypacker, Kal Varnsen and Art Vandelay :-p
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2002-11-11 13:47 [#00437272]
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and actually, they didn't want to use the toilet. They wanted to watch the Mets-game on tv.
:-p
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BILE
from São Paulo (Brazil) on 2002-11-11 13:48 [#00437274]
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i loved Seinfeld, thought it was a great show every episode - up until the 2 part series finale. that was just terrible (but funny in some parts), disappointing on a whole though
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2002-11-11 13:50 [#00437278]
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yeah, the finale was not so great... i didn't think so either. I would have enjoyed it more if they had just made 2 more really funny "regular" episodes... instead of trying to do something special.
I mean it was funny... but the regular episodes are so much better :-D
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-11-11 13:58 [#00437286]
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I did like the ending though.. kind of depressing and weird.. fitted very well..
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