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offline Spikee Dragon from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2002-11-11 04:46 [#00436571]
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I didn't come up with that title but the humor behind it is
great. I guess it's an in joke. *grins*

As for black cd-r you can get them on-line I bet if you
look.


 

offline Meho Krljic from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-11-11 04:47 [#00436572]
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And I'm just now writing an email to explain differences
between black and death metal to you.


 

offline korben dallas from nz on 2002-11-11 04:53 [#00436574]
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Meho: Great, dipshit it is :) .. can't wait for the synopsis
.. i'm about to head off.

J-hok: just nuther wee "tech-geek" question, do you use VST
instruments on the g3powerbook? if so, how do you find they
perform, ie. with live midi contolling, and in terms of how
many it can run ???

Anyhow .. that's me for tonight - catch you ladies around


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-11-11 04:53 [#00436575]
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There is no difference- it's all shouting and noise :P

Just kidding.


 

offline Meho Krljic from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-11-11 05:01 [#00436587]
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Ceri: I know you were kidding, and this is why I won't curse
you for all eternity. There are huge differences, just like
between gabba and hard trance for instance. (wow, it rhymes
also)


 

offline korben dallas from nz on 2002-11-11 05:18 [#00436602]
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pronounced: instence :(


 

offline Meho Krljic from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-11-11 05:20 [#00436606]
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True. However, I'm a dumb serb and I pronounce how it's
written.


 

offline Spikee Dragon from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2002-11-11 05:28 [#00436612]
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Gabber!!!


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-11-11 05:28 [#00436614]
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Your English is very, very good. It's a very subtle
difference of pronunciation that Korben pointed out. What's
your first language?


 

offline Meho Krljic from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-11-11 05:32 [#00436618]
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Well, serbian, naturally. And in serbian you literally read
the way it's written.

I see the difference between trance and instance
pronounciation when I think about it, but as on paper they
look the same, I made that gross and now irreparable
mistake.


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-11-11 05:38 [#00436620]
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I thought so, I was just wondering if serbian was the name
of it...

re: pronunciation. Yes, it must be a real swine for people
learning english, I mean, the majority of people who speak
English as a first language can't do it right ;)
That was one of the good things about esperanto- you said it
exactly as it looked and there were no exceptions to rules.
I wish that had been adopted more widely, it was a pretty
cool language...



 

offline Meho Krljic from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-11-11 05:43 [#00436626]
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Well, that's what you have in serbian. But most people here
still speak very rotten serbian and write even worse...

English is a lot easier to learn than serbian, BTW.


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-11-11 05:54 [#00436642]
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"English is a lot easier to learn than serbian, BTW."

How come? Is serbian one of those languages like chinese
that doesn't follow "normal" language structure?


 

offline diablo on 2002-11-11 06:34 [#00436692]
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I still don't know the difference between dark and death
metal... And where does ENT fit into that category? I'm
lost!

As for making new music try getting some really old jazz and
blues records and taking samples from them, then working
from that?


 

offline danbrusca from Derbyshire (United Kingdom) on 2002-11-11 06:41 [#00436700]
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Try learning Magyar, that isn't even like any other
language, except maybe Finnish.


 

offline Spikee Dragon from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2002-11-11 06:46 [#00436706]
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Death Metal is fast and raw, lyrics will be "I chopped the
fuckers head off and kicked it down the toilet before taking
a shit..." etc. Fast, heavy, metal. Dark metal will be like
death metal in places but have church organs and such mixed
in, some of it will be quite mellow and the tracks will be
about lost lovers, spirits entwined in the flowing rivers of
eternal damnation together etc.


 

offline Meho Krljic from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-11-11 06:47 [#00436708]
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dark metal as genre does not exist. There's black metal and
there's death metal and ask Korben tomorrow to explain the
difference. ENT are actually a hardcore punk band. Their
early stuff shows a clear Discharge/ Disorder influence.


 

offline diablo on 2002-11-11 06:49 [#00436709]
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Yeah I knew ENT were hardcore really just wondered if you
knew them.


 

offline Meho Krljic from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-11-11 06:51 [#00436710]
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Hmmm, let me try:

death metal is about monsters, demons, satan, violence and
pain; the music is chugging, has a lot of the low end and
the vocals are deep and guttural

Black metal is about satan, vampires, wolves, ravens, bats
etc.; the music is raw but melodic in a really cheesy way
and the sound is trebbly and has virtually no low end. The
vocals are rasp and high pitched.

Of course, there are exceptions and overlaps.


 

offline Meho Krljic from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-11-11 06:52 [#00436711]
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Bet your sweet arse I knew them. They used to be goooooood.
Now they are crap.


 

offline Spikee Dragon from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2002-11-11 06:55 [#00436715]
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Yes.

A lot of my Black Metal (I didn't notice I had started
calling it dark) is gothic romance, seeing the beauty in
being bitten and totally enveloped into a vampires heart and
that kind of theme. It also has gothic tones (like church
organs, gothic quires) mixed with the metal.


 

offline Meho Krljic from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-11-11 07:03 [#00436718]
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Aye, I hate that gothic-infested black metal. Guys like
Mayhem, Marduk, Dark Funeral and Burzum are my posse. Just
chainsaw guitars and blastbeats...


 

offline Spikee Dragon from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2002-11-11 07:06 [#00436719]
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War by Burzum! I need to play this when I get home. I forgot
about those guys.


 

offline Meho Krljic from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-11-11 07:12 [#00436726]
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Not guys, A guy: Count Grishnack is Burzum.


 

offline Meho Krljic from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-11-11 07:15 [#00436731]
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I have that album right here, but it's a bit radical for the
office. I'll play it later on headphones.


 

offline C738 from Outer Space on 2002-11-11 08:29 [#00436767]
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J-hok you're right about that!

I-ching really helped me on curing writers block. The book
told me to go back to the source.
So I took my oldest samples and made a track called reborn.
Its one of my most atmospheric tracks till date.
Check the homepage in my profile to download it.



 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-11-11 08:44 [#00436781]
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I'll have a look at that track tonight :)


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-11-11 10:59 [#00437036]
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do something new, use different software, experiment, buy a
microphone, try new methods and combine them with old ones


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-11-11 11:00 [#00437040]
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I have the same problem though.


 

offline Paco from Gothenburg (Sweden) on 2002-11-11 11:09 [#00437053]
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Every now and then I just go mad on my Roland Sh-5. You can
set the LFO to trigger the envelopes, so it plays by itself.
Slow LFO with long amp envelope release can create some
great ambiences. Faster stuff with a noise source can
produce some nice Trans Europe Express kind of beats.
Usually I record this stuff straight to cassette. After a
few weeks I go back and listen and I'm like, I did this?
Wow.

-P


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-11-12 02:56 [#00438242]
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Thanks for your suggestions guys, I worked on a new track
for about 5 hours solid (I used some old synth patches etc.
from a few days ago). It's very nearly finished, I need to
spend a little more time mastering it and it'll be ready for
uploading.

I'm dead pleased with it, one of my best tracks, I left it
looping all night as I slept.

I managed not to overcomplicate it like I usually do...


 

offline Junktion from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2002-11-12 03:09 [#00438248]
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good dude... =)


 


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