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offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-10-24 02:58 [#00415199]
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Most people would agree that they listen to different types
of musics in different situations- somthing
ambient/classical for mealtimes, mainly instrumental stuff
for talking with friends, more loud and energetic stuff when
at a club etc.

I'm interested in peoples opinions on different music media.
Personally I think due to the fact that vinyl is so short
(you need to turn the record over so frequently...) and it
practically demands to be mixed you tend to listen most to
music on vinyl, as you are rarely doing something else at
the same time.

CDs are longer and most players have a loop & programming
function. This makes them more appropriate for background
music, although the fact you can program them means people
sometimes skip tracks, shortening the potential length...

MDs are pretty much the same as CDs, but as people make
their own compilations, they seem to like all tracks and
hence rarely skip them. This would make them slightly more
suitable as "background" media, but they don't seem ti be
more poopular than Cds...

MP3s seem the best media for background music- small files
size and ease of playlist ordering means custom playlists
that can run for days. This makes them ideal for background
for study/work as you aren't interrupted by having to change
the CD etc. the small file size also means that you can fit
10/12 hours on a single CD making it my media of choice for
car trips.

What're your media preferences for different situations?


 

offline Junktion from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2002-10-24 03:00 [#00415201]
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mp3...

makes it all easy. And with the crossover effect turned on


 

offline Junktion from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2002-10-24 03:00 [#00415202]
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oh yeah...i ment for puplic or crowded partys


 

offline giginger from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2002-10-24 03:01 [#00415206]
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Vinyl: Mixing for fun or for a mates party.
CD: Journeys and when with mates sitting around.
MP3: When working on the computer.
MD: N/A
Cassette: N/A


 

offline Spikee Dragon from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2002-10-24 03:03 [#00415208]
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I like listening to mp3s for background when I'm stoned but
the white noise from my computer pisses me off. When a VDU
is on all I can hear is that fucking high pitched tone also.
So I either program or play thru a CD or put vinyl on
(having to get up to flip it over keeps me awake/alert)


 

offline str_ph from Cambridge (United Kingdom) on 2002-10-24 03:10 [#00415215]
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Spikee - Back to the topic about vinyl vs MP3 - the noise
coming from my computer is what I find really annoying with
MP3s + the noise induced by the soundcard.

Anyone tried to mix with Traktor ?
It's quite fun but to have the real DJ feel you need 2
soundcards. The automatic BPM calculation is quite efficient
but the scratch function is ridiculous (unless you use a
force feedback mouse ...)


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-10-24 03:10 [#00415216]
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I know what you mean, I need MP3s playing really loud to
drown out computer noise, or at least to listen through
headphones. This is part of the reason I want closed back
sennheiser cans :)

I like listening to MP3s on my MP3 cd player though...
really good audio quality after listening to them on PC.


 

offline Bremzen from utrecht (Netherlands, The) on 2002-10-24 03:13 [#00415218]
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i rarely do something else whilst listening to music. i'd be
too distracted by the music to concentrate on something
else.
this makes listening to music verrrrry time consuming for
me....
when i'm at a friends place, or at a bar, it's not that bad
that there is music (though, i was once in a bar where they
didn't play any music, how wonderful that was...)


 

offline Bremzen from utrecht (Netherlands, The) on 2002-10-24 03:14 [#00415220]
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...so it's either cd, vinyl or something from my computer
(wav's, mp3's etc.)


 

offline Junktion from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2002-10-24 03:14 [#00415221]
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Vinyl: still haven't bought one frigging record. But I have
the turntable =)

CD: when I listen music while stoning, or just enjoying an
album

MP3: for normal listening purpose and at partys


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-10-24 03:14 [#00415222]
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I have a force feedback mouse (I haven't had it working
since I got traktor) and you're right- it's nothing like
real scratching.

I was playing about with traktor last night with the
crossfader linked to my midi controller. good as you can
scratch/crossfade at the same time, but feels weird.

Why do you need 2 soundcards? If you have one with front &
back outputs (surround) can't you just plug headphones in
the back and speakers out of the front ones?


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-10-24 03:16 [#00415223]
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bremzen: there is a chain of uk pubs that have a no music
policy.

junktion, re vinyl-I'm the opposite, about 50 records, no
turtables...


 

offline str_ph from Cambridge (United Kingdom) on 2002-10-24 03:20 [#00415238]
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ah yes the surround function.

I think it's time for me to confess that my soundcard is a
old IDE one. It's a shame I know but I'm waiting for a
little cash so That I can build a new PC from scratch and
buy a semi-pro sound card (something like a m-audio).


 

offline neetta from Finland on 2002-10-24 03:28 [#00415246]
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turntables would be soooo nice..

my record collection is getting bigger and bigger. just got
peel sessions 2 and björks telegram from stockholm.
unfortunately i only have a crappy plastic thingie as a
record player.


 

offline Junktion from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2002-10-24 03:29 [#00415247]
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*lol*...will you selll me some vinyls pleassssee :)


 

offline neetta from Finland on 2002-10-24 03:30 [#00415249]
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and as for media preferences, if i read/listen/knit or
whatever i tend to listen to vinyl. only when i am sitting
in front of a computer i have mp3 on. also when i clean up;
my computer is plugged to cordless sennheisers and the range
is veeeery good.


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-10-24 04:13 [#00415281]
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Swap you 25 vinyls for a turntable :) I've got loads of cool
old vinyl like 808 state, tricky disco, etc. inherited it
from my brother. I've got some original hendrix & beatles
too :)

Neeta: What are the cordless sennheisers like (quality wise)
compared to say, sennheiser HD-250s? and do they eat
batteries? Cheers.


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-10-24 04:14 [#00415282]
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It's a pain having to go round the back of my pc to change
it all the time as I usually want suround on... I really
need something like a soundblaster audigy platinum with a
front panel that fits in CD rom drive spaces...


 

offline str_ph from Cambridge (United Kingdom) on 2002-10-24 04:22 [#00415284]
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Audigy platinium - this is what I have at work. The only
little problem I see with it - the ADC & DAC converters are
still inside the PC so you get all the electrostatic noise
from your fan + harddrive . If you have a little bit more
money look for a soundcard in two parts -> PCI interface for
logic and control + external rack for Inputs/Outputs and
converters. That may be over 500£ :-/


 

offline giginger from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2002-10-24 04:50 [#00415289]
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Are you actually going to sell some?


 

offline glass_eater from a blind nerves area (Switzerland) on 2002-10-24 04:58 [#00415290]
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4 the world tour...
what would u recomend?
must i take mp3 player or MD player ???
im hesitating between thoses 2...


 

offline Junktion from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2002-10-24 05:02 [#00415293]
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i can't swap you for my TT....then I won't have anything to
play the vinyls with =P


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-10-24 05:07 [#00415296]
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Ah, you only have a single turntable...

Giginger, naw I was just kidding. I like them too much &
I'll have a load of records to get started with when I get
decks :)

str_ph: I thought there was a soundcard similair to the
audigy, but geared more towards music than games that was 2
seperates for £180ish. Someone here posted a link the other
day... Anyone remeber which one it was (NB it wasn't
creative labs...)

Glass eater- 320kbps MP3s :)


 

offline glass_eater from a blind nerves area (Switzerland) on 2002-10-24 05:15 [#00415307]
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thanx a lot !!!
:D


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-10-24 05:19 [#00415312]
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Get an mp3 cd player- Only £50 (even with anti-shock) and
get a player & 12 CD holder case and you'll be able to take
120+ albums at 128kbps quality... also not to expensive to
replace if it gets stolen (my mate just had his CD player &
original cds stolen whilst travelling...)


 

offline jand from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-10-24 05:51 [#00415324]
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yeah, totally agreed....Phillips do a great little one for
£50 which is a total bargain (I've got it's older brother
which gets used daily....best little bit of tech I ever
bought...)...

I'm more or less 100% MP3 nowdays...bought CDs are ripped &
LAME encoded & I seldom listen to the CD straight...most of
my listening is on the way to & from work, good 1hr each way
which I kinda enjoy in a way - like enforced
meditation...reading & music & watching the world...

At home, it's generally MP3s either thru my MP3CDplayer or
Winamp on the computer....got a great Yamaha Sub-bass &
speaker set that suit IDM perfectly; nice & clear at low &
high volume ?

Got some decent Technics Headphones for late-night coding
sessions...not as good texturally as the Yamaha but pretty
close...


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-10-24 05:59 [#00415326]
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I got one from maplins for £50 it's by Lennoxx (sounds
mickey mouse doesn't it), but no complaints, dead reliable,
comes with rechargeble batteries & mains adaptor, good
battery life & 120 secs anti shock. It has *never* skipped
playing mp3s and only once whilst playing normal cds (and
that was with anti-shock off).

I want some sennheiser HD-250s as they'd be good on my pc as
well as for when I get decks, I'm considering some cordless
ones though... hence the question to neeta. Ideally I'd like
some that you could connect by wire to stop the need for
battery & give better signal, but that you could then
disconnect & use cordless as well. Don't know of any like
that though.

I listen to music in the car to work, but I really miss
reading on the bus in (used to in school all the time). I
really get what you're on about with "forced meditation",
hits the nail on the head.


 


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