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This afternoon when i watched MTV2 for 2 1/2 hours straight (hoping to catch the new nirvana-video... but alas, no luck this time). I witnessed the new Pearl Jam video being played (it's surprising that they're making video again...). Sigh... Whatever happened to this wonderful band? They used to be one of my favourite bands in the world (around Vs. & Vitalogy they were perhaps just THE best band and the world)... but it all went downhill after Vitalogy. I thought No Code was bearable... not great, but a couple of nice songs. Yield was just boring. Binaural was even worse, and now this new song "i am mine" is their worst song so far. Sounds like something nickelback (and i can't stand nickelback! Boring uninteresting rock!) might use as a b-side or something... so dull and uninteresting. Riot Act will most likely be the first Pearl Jam album I'm not going to buy... but just that thought makes me very very sad :-( It's a horrible feeling to "lose" your old heroes like that. Ofcourse i've discovered aphex twin and squarepusher and all those other idm-artists now... and i get more joy out of their music than pearl jam ever gave me. But i always imagined i would be a pearl jam-fan for the rest of my life. Has my taste just changed, or did they really become so bad? |
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well for a period there they stopped doing videos, and I guess any marketing whatsoever for their albums... so they were never in the public eye really, well kind of, but not in your face all the time... |
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GREAT topic I downloaded the vid from a video site I discovered the other day. I watched it... and the most interesting thing about it was Vedder's new hairdo. Fuck man... I loved 'Ten', thought 'Vs' was fantastic... 'Vitalogy', despite being critically mauled, had some fantastic tracks 'No Code' was a bit iffy, but still had a link to the older stuff (especially 'Vitalogy') and was good to listen to now and then 'Yield' was better... and the video brought out (the studio one) was really good... I mean 'Do The Evolution' is fantastic THEN it was 'Binaural'.... what a piece of dogshit. Only 'Insignifigence' was ok, the rest utter wank The new track is so lazy, so generic, so uninspired it beggars belief. It's amazing they've become a band now who I'm simply gonna pass over, not bother buying (or even downloading) any more, cause they were HUGE to me at one point... I have so many rare Pearl Jam vinyls and cds it's ridiculous. And all for this. Well, fuck them, and more power to bands who work hard. |
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Shit, I need to read a dictionary! Apologies for the over use of 'fantastic' =oD |
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yes i know... and i quite respected them for that :-) lots of bands (especially bands born in the early 90's) were always complaining how they hated their own popularity... But pearl jam went ahead and actually did something about it. But the thing is, i've never stopped following them. I have all their previous six albums... but i feel like they've gone in a different musical direction than my taste has... sad... |
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pearl jam=lame i have some coffee and wine from pearl jam... |
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"I watched it... and the most interesting thing about it was Vedder's new hairdo." heh ;-) You're right, i did notice that too! I think he also shaved his head bald altogether a while back, but now he's growing new hair. Anyway i completely agree with your post... it's nice to see i'm not the only one who feels this way. Hm... but did you really like Yield more than No Code? I think you put it very well when you said No Code still had a link to their old sound... it had an edge at least. Everything after No Code sounds so much more polished. I have to agree 'evolution' is a great song. "brain of J" and "push me pull me" i like aswell... but the rest of the album sounds just like binaural to me... :-/ I have tons of bootlegs... all their early singles, all kinds of rarities, i was a tenclub-member... if they would have stayed as fantastic as they once were, i think i probably would have bought ALL of those live-cd's they released! I actually got a little excited when i heard the album was gonna be called Riot Act... sounds quite agressive... i thought they might have found the right path again :-) But now that i've seen this video... what a dissapoitnment... :-( |
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Totally man... I have loadsa bootlegs, and if the line up had remained the same and the music was similar I would have bought loads of those bootlegs, but in the end I didn't buy any of them. To think I bought 28 COPIES of No Code cause of the different covers... I wasn't keen on Yield until I bought 'Single Video Theory'... that was a cool vid I thought, although quite visually dull (apart from seeing how FAT Mike Mccready got!) it was really cool to have a smoke and watch it. I dunno, I could understand them perhaps wanting to become a different kind of rock band because of the unwanted success and who their idols are, but the music should NOT suffer as a result... and above all you should put your guts into music. Mind you, I think that all the Pearl Jam singles since 'Vitalogy' have been crap, so who knows? The album might be a corker! (doubt it though) |
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come again?! 28 copies of no code? :-D ohmygod... you were an even bigger fan than i was! So you actually have all the different polaroids? Impressive! :-) But i seriously can't understand why they would want to be making this type of music... it all sounds so uninspired. I even thought the band itself looked bored playing their new song in that video! And i have serious doubts about this album being a corker (whatever a corker is... something positive i gather :-P). I can't see how they could fit a song like I Am Mine on a great album. I *might* listen to it in a recordstore... to make sure it sucks basically :-( |
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my dad likes nickelback |
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well have your dad check out the new PJ-album then, he should love it :-s |
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Heheh I'll probably download it... can't see myself buying it though. The band DID look bored, although if I was them I would have looked plain embaressed! It has the same sort of vibe as 'Who You Are' and 'Nothing As It Seems' to me... and those two tracks were quite weak (although 'Who You Are' strangely grew on me) - they still seem to have a perverse incentive to put people off their music. It started when the videos stopped, and Vedder cut his hair off and deliberatly put on weight. Well, it's had the desired effect on me anyway |
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who you are isn't so bad. Not their best song, but at least it sounds like something they believed in at the time... inspired. I don't care what Vedder looks like :-p He can grow a beard and put on women's clothes for all i care, as long as he would make good music again! Godammit! I still think the man has an awesome voice, why does he want to waste it on crap music like this? :-/ |
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I always respected Pearl Jam for doing their own thing, they made music for themselves and seemed to create something that identified with an amazing amount of people (remember 'Vs' set the record for albums sold within the first week of release... 900,000 or summat)... nowadays, they just seem tired, a poor pastiche of what they used to be. Fuck man, listen to 'Go' now and lament on the loss of another great band.... |
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I hated Pearl Jam. I was/am a big Nirvana fan and thought Pearl Jam were boring. I am now older, maybe wiser (who knows), and I have considered Pearl Jam thoroughly.. nah, still think they're boring. |
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I spread it on a toast..which went all sogy so I threw it in the rubbish...hence forth all the correspondence intended for them will be forwarded to my bin..till the rubbish gets collected that is... Mother Love Bone on the other hand..I had plenty of time for... |
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I haven't bought a new pearl jam album, with exception of the bootlegs, since VS I've always had luck winning em off our local radio station I hated Binaural when it came out... but after listening to the bootlegs it got me into the album! I am mine was made apparently for the european fans since they're not touring there right away I guess? I had to download it too. any of you PJ fans into the band BRAD? I think they're the only PJ side project band that is actually good! with exception of Mad Season since there will never be another mad season album. |
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Well fuck me... I just ran into the new album by accident on Soulseek... it's on there if anyone wants it... grab it while it's hot etc ;o) |
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didn't eddie v. get busted in a men's bathroom suckin on a schlong? |
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is it still like... listenable?...what did you run it over with? |
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the albums been out since last month... I am not gonna run out and buy it that's for sure! actually I don't think I will buy it at all. |
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All of Shawn Smith's bands are amazing!!!!! Also check out Pigeonhead and especially Satchel. Satchel's "the family" is a small masterpiece in my mind :-) |
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mtv2???? what the hell? i thought you lived in alphen a/d rijn???? you have mtv2 there? |
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"i am mine" a gift to the european fans??... What a great way to say Fuck You Europe ;-) And yeah I remember Vs. breaking all those records jarworski... sigh... Vs... those were the days. I also seem to remember Vitalogy's artwork cost $2 more to produce per cd than an ordinary album-cover. And I think they worked out a deal where Sony paid $1, and the other dollar was actually paid for by PJ themselves :-) They were good to their fans back then! (and i still think it's one of the best cd-packages in the history of music). I can't download it, but i'm not exactly holding my breath for it anyway ;-) So it's no big deal. I'll listen to it in a recordstore when it's out. Did you hear it jarworski? *puts Vs. on* |
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yeah i do live in Alphen! The cable-company (casema) sold some sort of decoder-box to the people in this area, and for a few euro's per month you can get the "entertainment pack" which includes MTV2 and eh... also some porn-channels ;-) Not that I ever look at that filth ofcourse :-p. (and if you pay more euros, you can also get lots of strange forreign channels, and 20 different kinds of discovery-channels etc.). Lots of nu-metal and postgrunge though... MTV2 is not as cool as i would have hoped. |
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that's nice. tssk i live only a half hour from alphen. i'm going to move to leiden though, you reckon it's the same situation there? |
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not according to their site :-( Sorry. You can search what they have to offer in every town/city of holland. But in Leiden they don't offer the "casema digitale TV"... and that's the package that includes MTV2 |
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I'm gonna listen to it in a bit - I need some food first to recover from last night (see 12 cans of stella thread!) |
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hehe, good luck. Sounds like a rough night ;-) |
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i love the song "dp the evolution", can't get enough of it |
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yeah that is a good song. I love to hear eddie get all worked up and angry! Unlike most of the rest of Yield, they sound passionate on Evolution! |
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i never liked pearl jam much at all except yellow ledbetter because the riff sounds so like hendrix material. i downloaded all their albums at one point and didnt like any of them, vs was the bets but it only had like 2 or 3 decent tracks. ten is way overrated anyways. |
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unfuckingbelievable... My little brother (well, not that little ;-) he's 21 years old but will always be my little brother :-p)... who always HATED pearl jam with a passion. Called me stupid for buying all their albums and whatnot... he also just saw the new video, and he came up to me just now and said he really liked it :-s Best PJ-track he ever heard. And i didn't tell him yet how i hated it... so he couldn't have said it to tease me... unless he secretly also reads xltronic... but i doubt it. He hates all electronic music. weird! |
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hmmm maybe he's into the whole grunge revival... that nirvana song is probably right up his alley funny, at the time i would have loved the new nirvana track (that pearl jam track too, prolly, haven't even heard it yet). now i'm not interested at all :( |
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still haven't seen that nirvana-track! AAAAaaaaarrgh! Do they schedule the times they air that video exactly around the hours when i'm actually watching tv? Pretty annoying... I still love the old nirvana-albums :-) SO I reckon i'll probably like this new one. |
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but you do still like the pumpkins? |
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well... i hardly ever listen to them anymore, except when i play guitar to their records, but that doesn't count :P but i started a collection so i'll prolly end up buying the new dvd/cd this november + everything else they'll release :( |
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eh? We're still talking about nirvana right? Or did you just say the smashing pumpkins are also gonna release a new cd in november? Regardless... if buying a cd makes you go:... :( (i mean: if it makes your face sad) I don't think you should buy it. Instead you could be spending your hardearned money on a cd that you know you'll love and will be listening to a lot! You know it makes sense ;-) I'm trying to cut back on the rarities/cd's i just want to complete my collections myself. (for instance i never bought "from the muddy banks of the wiskah" from nirvana)... but i did just order a 7" motorpsycho split-single, limited to 500 copies... hehe... it's hard to quit once you've sniffed at being a collector ;-) |
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hehe yeah the pumpkins are (re)releasing their 1993 live album earphoria. back then it was a promo, 1000 copies only, but i have a bootleg of it. also, vieuphoria (the video version) will be rereleased on dvd with interesting extras (eg live footage of recording sessions from siamese dream era, i believe). all in all, it's gonna be well worth my money for sentimental reasons, but i never listen to my bootleg copy of earphoria as it is :( the dvd will be nice though anyway, back to watching ajax :D |
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okay, that's pretty cool. At least it'll mean all those fans that didn't get one of the 1000 copies can finally get their hands on it (and a thousand hardcore-collectors will prolly be really pissed off ;-). But i probably won't be buying it though. I don' t even have all their official albums yet :-p |
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Hey GEORGE! I gave that Pearl Jam CD a good listen yesterday and today... Amazingly, it's not too bad. It's no 'Ten' for sure, but it's a massive improvement on 'Binaural'. Some upbeat tracks, as well as some which definitely hark back to 'Vitalogy' and 'No Code'. It's probably closet to 'No Code' and 'Yield', I'd say - and while there's no real 'killer' tracks (although some songs may yet grow and grow on me) it's a pleasurable listening experience. Not too many duffers, plus some cool experimentation which thankfully aren't complete arse =oD Best tracks imo are 'Can't Keep', 'Save You', 'You Are' and a couple others... check those out, but I think it's actually worth your money =oD Well, maybe... |
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well... this is an unexpected surprise! When I read your first post in this thread i could have never thought the 41th post was such a positive little review also by you... but you also sound rather surprised yourself, so that makes sense ;-) At the very least you have given me new hope :-D Turns out i might at last have another exciting pearl jam-album to look forward to. Your description (close to no code/cool experimentation/some upbeat tracks) sounds neat. I'm actually starting to look forward (a little) to the whole thing. (i have to say the cover looks pretty good aswell... since the cover of binaural looked to me like it belonged more on a cd with meditational-music from the wrong side of the 70's... covers are important to me. But sadly in the case of binaural both the cover + the music were horrible). Thanks for your thoughts anyway :-) I'll be checking out those 3 tracks when it gets released! Hopefully to be continued... |
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