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... linking park last night... I had a spotlight on them on for a bit, and they said they listen to Aphex Twin... pretty cool! |
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I FUCKING *HATE* LINKIN PARK!!!!!!!!!!!! *ahem* yes, i thoroughly dislike that bunch of commercial posers |
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why's that cool? a ton of artists listen to afx. anyway, i made a topic about this 6 months ago, i got flamed for even suggesting they were influenced by afx. |
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linkin park are shit eaters they surely dont listen to him and dont know a shit about him if they do they shoul commit suicide 4 their horrid music |
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*aims his flamethrower* |
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cool !? not to me.. think of how many hipster junior high kids are gonna be like, 'cool, aphex twin.. let's check that out.' I imagine Ae gained a load of new followers thanks to Thom Yorke, and he's even semi-respected! I'm sorry, I'm just paranoid and frustrated. I just wish if people in high places liked this stuff that they'd keep it to themselves.. oh nevermind, i'm just upset over nothing |
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shrug... I didn't say I liked there music... but I don't think they're as bad as everyone here makes them out to be... it's not my style of music, but I think it's ok for the genre... Titsworth: well sorry, I don't remember that thread... I just think it's cool whenever someone mentions him, or any other music I really like, on television... didn't expect everyone to get so, ummm, angry or something... :) |
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if Linkin Park were a cake they would be a Chocolate Stupid Cake. |
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I do agree that it's pretty lame when a singer or something drops a respected artists name, and you just know that they hardly know who this person is, but just name dropped him/her/them because they think it'll get them respect, blah blah blah... but I think these guys really do listen to aphex twin for some reason... and titsworth seems to know that they do somehow... :) |
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yeah, it's okay for the genre of 12 year old fred durts wannabes who are wearing hoodies, and getting into skating/boarding/bmxing because they think they're being "individual" "fuck this, i've got like, homework and stuff, i think i'm gonna go and kill myself....or listen to linkin park because i'm so hard done by" i HATE poser kiddies! |
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ha hah a |
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i'm sorry if i offend anyone, but it really annoys me that's all they think they're being individual, when they're just follwoing yet another trend |
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Seen any prison inmates you'd like executed lately, amon? |
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so you people don't like linkin park eh? ;-) I wonder if it is because of their music or their popularity... to me it sounds like good popmusic in a nu-metal diguise or something. It's not something i'd buy to listen to in detail... but among all the crap on MTV these days, i think they're -like the funkmaster said- ok for the genre. Better than limp bizkit :-p And that points of authority-remix sounded like a nin-song! Horrible video though :-s All their videos are overproduced and just... terrible. |
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how do you even know Linkan Park are like that? It's pretty stupid to label a group a poser just because they play a type of music you dislike, or are popular... |
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they are following thi sheeps into the giant visible from 50000000000 miles collapse into the cultural world around... life sucks pretty hard |
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Yes, please execute Funkmaster for bringing this up. that is all lol jk ;) WINK |
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i get what you're saying.......and that's kind of the reason why i hate them they're not in it for the art of making music......you see, i regard music as an artform (because, well it IS isn't it?) and it really annoys me when people sell out linkin park do music to "look cool" and get the dead presidents |
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dont post one more shit on this group or on blink 182 or even korn new things, ... all the shitty things my mind is deleting every day of my life... i need a fucking air-blower 4 my brain ! ;( |
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slipknot are another poser band i mean, setting your table on fire because you've won an award at mtv if that's not a lame cry for attention, i don't know what is! that's like "hey kiddies, look! we're so bad! we just set our desk alight! yippee! now come and join our Maggot Armyâ„¢" |
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right, it seems like a lot of people are afraid to admit they like certain types of music because it's popular... which is a stupid thing... and the only times people will admit they like it is in those guilty pleasures threads... who cares if it's popular? If you like music, you like it... people who listen to pop music that is on the radio are called "stupid" and said to have no taste in music, when really, totally being against a genre of music and popular music is just as stupid, or even more so... just because someone listens to Aphex Twin, Autechre, or anything else that isn't played on the radio doesn't mean they are any more individual... half the people that listen to this could be just doing so because they want to conform to this smaller group (but no less of a group) that listens to this music, because they think that then they will be viewed as individualistic, and non-conforming... We think we're all super intelligent, and individualistic because we listen to what we think is our "own" music... |
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but isn't that weird? To hate a band's music just for that reason? You're saying that if you knew nothing about linkin park (like you had been on a deserted island for the last 4 years ;-)), and someone let you hear some of their songs... you might enjoy it. But now that you know something more about this bands... 'status'? You don't like it anymore? A good song is a good song in my mind. Sure i don't consider linkin park's music a piece of art, but still... you could do worse if you're a troubled teenager :-p |
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i see where you're coming from....we've all got to start someone (with our musical tastes) right? i guess what i'm trying to say is that i've been taken the piss out of for years by people because of the music i listen to and now, when stuff that comes out that's not too dissimilar to what i listen to....they're all like "wow this is great!" and everything it's just stupid that's all do you get what i mean? or am i talking total horseshit? |
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oops... i meant we've all got to start somewhere! typo |
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"they're not in it for the art of making music......you see, i regard music as an artform (because, well it IS isn't it?) and it really annoys me when people sell out linkin park do music to "look cool" and get the dead presidents" See, like how do you know this? You're saying that because you think the music is crap (which you're allowed to) and thus there is no artistic value to it... and, you say they have sold out just because they are popular... when really, selling out has little to do with that... becoming popular doesn't make you a sellout, it's whether you changed your beliefs or whatever to do so... and really, how does anyone here know that Linkin Park have done this? I don't like them, but I don't agree with all this snobyness that comes about when IDM heads talking about popular music and stuff... |
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all wrong my hears cant stand horrible music ! thats all im pretty dumb dont be afraid |
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Science makes us smarter |
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i read an interview with limp bizkit when they had just released their first album and one of them said he listend alot to the future sound of london :) |
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well, okay, i step down about the linkin park, because i have no evidence that they are sell outs but limp bizkit are! in an interview on mtv2 uk once, fred dunce was going on about the production of chocolate starfish, and he said that they asked the fans what they liked....that the fans liked the melodies of three dollar bill ya'll and the hardness of significant other, so they decided to combine the two they were shaping their music because of what the fans liked if that were me i'd say well, it's MY art, MY music so i'll do it the way I want to |
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well put! And actually, in the environment of this board, you're being alot more invidualistic if you admit you like some popular music out there ;-) But also to listen to Aphex Twin just to make some sort of a statement is a crazy thing to do. You either like something or not... if you listen to any type of music for any other reason than simply liking it. Well i'm sorry, but i think that's a little pathetic. You don't need things like that to be an individual. |
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linkin park havn't sold out. they're music is music that everyone will like. thus its not groundbreaking. its music like 'give us something we can dance to' and not like 'k, i want you guys to spend a little more time and energy on your next cd so it will put all other cds in your category to shame'. no. why? cause neither THEY nor the big companies want that. they all want money. they can get that by making music like all the other million guitar freaks (no offence to guitar players here). its just here have a fast go and forget me. i think its sick. this kind of music is anti-art. |
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Yeah i've heard fred say that as well. The limpbizkit-fans also get to decide which songs should be released as singles right? LimpBizkit is indeed a good example of a band that sells out. If another type of music was popular right now, i'm positive fred durst would be making THAT type of music. But even so... i don't think that makes limp bizkit evil or something. There are millions of kids out there that honestly enjoy listening to limp bizkit (hm... i must admit i find that hard to imagine ;-)). I mean... yeah, limp bizkit is a pathetic band and personally i think their music is horrible, and they are big sellouts. But i still don't think that makes fred durst the antichrist or something. "i guess what i'm trying to say is that i've been taken the piss out of for years by people because of the music i listen to and now, when stuff that comes out that's not too dissimilar to what i listen to....they're all like "wow this is great!" and everything" That is fucked up though... i can understand your frustration there. Just find some comfort in the thought that you got there first. :-D |
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Nothing wrong with popularity... The Beatles were like NSync times ten. But Linkin Park is glossy, overproduced cheese for 14 year olds... I'd like them to be the victim of a sniper attack. They may like RDJ, but they lack the balls to ever do what Richie does... BE REAL ARTISTS, dedicated to crafting some meaningful music. You can tell by their asinine lyrics (they hate the world, and are SOOOO sad, yet I bet mommy bought them their electric guitars years ago, and they party every night) and their RIDICULOUSLY overdone videos that they're just doing what will get them rich. I'd like to hear them be truly creative... they're obviously adequate musicians. I wonder what they could do if they had the testicular fortitude. |
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I really don't dislike Linkin Park, I'm not saying their music is crap, my original point was that I hate it when popular bands are irresponsible enough to name-drop whether it be for respect or not. Heck I listened to Linkin Park like every day a few months ago just out of escapism (plus this girl I liked was into them, but that's not the point :D ..) .. In comparison to Aphex I'd say they're music is terrible.. but some on this boards (Amon, et al) are right in saying that they're not sellouts. I made the same defense of Avril Lavigne that if you're never underground in the first place, how can you be sellout? Anyway, my beef now with LP is not the music, it's the name dropping and that's all. |
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new limp biz sucks all that's new almost dont someone here agree |
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Limp Bizkit has ALWAYS sucked. And I'm so sick of seeing Fred Durst clones everywhere. Seems like people are even gaining weight to be like him, I see short little fat guys with bleach blonde hair, hoodies, and cargo pants EVERYWHERE. Can't forget their wallet chains or whatever the fuck they are. |
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glass_eater> i agree! i often wonder if its because im getting old and narrow minded perhaps.. |
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who cares if anyone namedrops aphex twin? Don't be so selfish :-p Isn't it a good thing if maybe some people who have never heard of aphex twin, get to know his music through limp bizkit... and thus begin their musical journey towards more meaningful music by real artists. I'm sure richard will never sell out (change his music to make it more accesable and sell more of it)... so really... who cares which people (or how many) buy his records? It doesn't make a difference for me... |
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you won a lot of points on this one surrounded !!! maybe its like clues to reach the right path for art ! great lets namedrop! |
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I suppose it is a wee bit selfish, and I apologize for that.. but my main concern is not with people discovering and enjoying and understanding Aphex & co. .. My fear rests with the folks who hear the name, buy drukqs, play it for all their middle school buddies at parties and say 'Whoa listen to this cool beat!' and skip all the piano tracks and become pseudo-fans who know the name but not the man RDJ and what he's about. Same concept goes for BoC, only to a different crowd. It's now misunderstood and featured on every chillout and easy listening compilation known to man, including an MTV compilation. It's totally ignoring the deeper meaning in favor of the surface sound of it. I think there should be fewer fans, ones who discover it on their own. The fans that DO discover it will have made the effort, thereby showing that they had genuine interest in the genre and are willing to understand it rather than just consuming it. |
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that's exactly what pisses me off man!!! i just didn't know how the hell to write it!!!!! |
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elitists.... and why keep stating the obvious-we are here cos we don't listen to mainstream music on the whole but the "herd" of most conformist people do get over it-most people are dumb when it comes to music -its not the art they go for- its the simplicity of the music |
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now way!!!!!!!! you're from Harlow Tango?? what's it like there now man?? |
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i wish i had something like a "sarcasm-alert"... when someone said something sarcastic to me, my sarcasm-alert would warn me (not unlike spiderman's spider-sense). I have no idea if the glass_eater was being sarcastic there ;-) I hope not, but nevermind. I can almost never spot sarcasm. Maybe i take things too seriously? The strange part is that i love being sarcastic myself :-p |
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dark and cold.... where u at? |
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well i'm in Widnes, Cheshire but i was born in Harlow.....moved up here when i was 7 kind of wish i never did move :o( i wish i was still living in essex and older - coz then i could have gone to see Liam Howlett at The Barn!!! damn, i wish i was old enough to go to a REAL rave back in the day... |
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Look i understand what you are saying :-) And i pity those people that will only listen to the crazy druqks-tracks because it makes them look cool at parties. And the people that only listen to Boc for relaxation purposes... i pity them even more, because they don't know what they're missing. But what i don't understand is why this should bother you? The fact that these "pseudo fans" exist doesn't change the way you listen to Aphex or Boc does it? Everyone is on his own personaly musical journey. And some people will always choose to only listen to music on a very shallow level, whilst other people (like you and me apparantly) dive really deep into it. But does that make the shallow listener a lesser person or something? I personally don't think so, as long as it makes him happy :-) |
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& I've seen them live, bah I hate them too.. |
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surrounded!!! never been sarcastic ! really man... George ! it reminds me ur little paranoid attitude i like so much ! dam' good seinfeld ;o))) |
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no it doesn't affect me personally as a music listener (unless i'm being twatted over the head with lead pipes by a bunch of scallies) it's just.....frustrating that's all i honestly don't know what else to say about it |
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