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regital
from Baltimore (United States) on 2002-10-15 13:26 [#00404495]
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I'm afraid to go outside... the sniper can be anywhere
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-10-15 13:28 [#00404499]
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yeah, I can imagine. that must be terrifying.
unbelievable, he's killed like 8 people hasn't he? and there just isn't much the police can do..
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Duble0Syx
from Columbus, OH (United States) on 2002-10-15 13:28 [#00404500]
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I Am the Sniper! Muahahah! Not really, but I wouldn't mind having his gun...
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2002-10-15 13:30 [#00404503]
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Has this been brought up before? I'm amazed if it hasn't been.
I wouldn't be shit scared (hard to keep it in your mind all the time) but fuck, any loud noises/gunshots near me walking down the road and you wouldn't see me for dust...
I think shit like this and the Bali bombing, Sept 11th etc is just gonna get worse and worse and worse
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-10-15 13:30 [#00404504]
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I would mind you having his gun.
I mind him having his gun.
de-gun all.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-10-15 13:32 [#00404506]
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nah, there isn't more violence than before, just more and quicker newscoverage. neetta did a thread on this subject yesterday.. I'll see if I can find it and bump it for your pleasure, Jarworski.. ;)
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Duble0Syx
from Columbus, OH (United States) on 2002-10-15 13:38 [#00404522]
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I wouldn't be out shooting innocent people if I had a gun like he does. I think he should be sniping prison inmates or something along those lines...
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-10-15 13:40 [#00404525]
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thing about guns is (putting on my serious-cap now..), they are devices made specifically for the incapacitating if not killing of people.
don't like that..
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Wochtzchee
from Tallinn (Estonia) on 2002-10-15 13:45 [#00404531]
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I can imagine your fear. US is a strange place it really is.
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Netlon Sentinel
from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2002-10-15 13:46 [#00404532]
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the whole thing reminds me of a millenium or x-files episode.
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Sido Dyas
from a computer on 2002-10-15 14:06 [#00404549]
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Scary shit man! I heard he left a note to the police saying something like "Dear mr policeman , i am god"
We had a sniper here in sweden in the early 90's. John Ausonius , he was nicknamed "Laserman" because he used a laser aim.
He was a nazi psycho and the target was imigrants and people with foreign bakround.
Eventho i am 100% blond swede it was scary times walking around the streets , you felt naked and wonerable.
I can't even begin to imagine how people with darker skin felt.
I guess thats what they get off on , the power of causing all that fear and terror.
He got caught tho and is serving a life sentence. He claims he has found jesus now and is trying to shorten his sentence....fat chance!!! Once a psycho always a psycho!
People like that don't just get cured , it is a part in their brain that is missing.
It can be caused in their early baby state if they don't get enough care or human contact , they don't develop the Compasion part of the brain.
You can explain and teach a psychopat that murdering stealing lying and so on is wrong and he can accept that but he can never ever understand why.
Atleast thats what i have read.
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2002-10-15 14:10 [#00404553]
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the snipper(s) is a shit head and should be shot on the spot himself/herself.
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Netlon Sentinel
from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2002-10-15 14:15 [#00404555]
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he's america's biggest coward, too
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Sido Dyas
from a computer on 2002-10-15 14:17 [#00404558]
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nah... he is not worth the bullet. Drowning or hanging is sheaper.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-10-15 14:20 [#00404559]
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Imagine being totally innocent and minding your own business, and being shot by him! Infuriating to think about it, the son of a bitch.
I'm surprised this hasn't happened sooner, though. If he's good, it's going to be VERY hard to catch him. Hell, from the top of my house, I could shoot somebody downtown with a sniper rifle, I live on a big hill and have a clear view of hotels and everything. It's easy. He's got quite the kill count, he probably thinks he's going to go down in history as some demented hero. Can't wait till they catch him/her.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-10-15 14:24 [#00404563]
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one of the most recent shootings happened near were i grew up.
i grew up in stafford VA, and there was a shooting at spotsylvania mall. This is the mall i went to ALL the time as a kid. its only like 10-15 min drive from my house. ive been in the store that the lady who got shot walked out of
its so fucked up
and what pisses me off is the fucking media. they are like "its obvious that the sniper is watching tv. we reported that school were safe, then the next day he attacked a school. then we reported this area was safe, and then he attacked it. now, lets go talk to the police and see what thier stratagy for finding the sniper is"
WHAT THE FUCK
i hate the media
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-10-15 14:25 [#00404565]
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one of the most recent shootings happened near were i grew up.
i grew up in stafford VA, and there was a shooting at spotsylvania mall. This is the mall i went to ALL the time as a kid. its only like 10-15 min drive from my house. ive been in the store that the lady who got shot walked out of
its so fucked up
and what pisses me off is the fucking media. they are like "its obvious that the sniper is watching tv. we reported that school were safe, then the next day he attacked a school. then we reported this area was safe, and then he attacked it. now, lets go talk to the police and see what thier stratagy for finding the sniper is"
WHAT THE FUCK
i hate the media
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BlatantEcho
from All over (United States) on 2002-10-15 14:27 [#00404568]
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if I was on the East Coast, i'd want to shit my pants filling my car up with gas and the like.
Iono man, he basically works M-F and kills one a day. Another one today.......that is 11 victims with 9 kills.
Dunno if they have more information than they say, but shit, so far the public knows NADA. Still runs 24/7 on CNN and the other all SCARY news channels.
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Netlon Sentinel
from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2002-10-15 14:32 [#00404587]
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yeah the NRA really messed up bigtime this time
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Nathan Jones
on 2002-10-15 14:49 [#00404610]
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You'd think he'd be more clean cut about things. Not leaving shells and evidence like the card. The white van seems a bit suspicious too. You'd think if you were to snipe someone, you'd take more precautions. I give him 3 more days until he's caught. Unless he dumps the van. If he gets rid of that he might be able to go another 2 weeks. He seems to be quite limited by the range of his gun though, so I'm sure he'll be caught soon enough.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-10-15 14:53 [#00404617]
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He's ''GOD''... who needs precautions?
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pomme de terre
from obscure body in the SK System on 2002-10-15 14:56 [#00404619]
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Hate to be the Devil's advocate, but I know that I (and probably a whole lot of people) have thought "I wonder if I just went out and started shooting people, how long it would take them to catch me" Now I know the answer-- A long time.
I think the whole thing is kinda interesting. Sorry, I know thats insensitive and stuff. But, It's the truth...
If he shoots me or someone I know, I'll change my attitude. And I'm not looking for more people to die or anything like that.. I just think it's interesting.
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Nathan Jones
on 2002-10-15 14:58 [#00404622]
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It's beyond interesting, it's fucking amazing. I don't think it will take long to catch him though as he doesn't clean his tracks.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-10-15 14:59 [#00404623]
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Yeah, I am TOTALLY intrigued by this stuff. The whole ''God'' thing, the tarot cards... this is fucking facsinating shit. Right out of a movie. The guy must be (and I know how sick this sounds) having the time of his life.
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pomme de terre
from obscure body in the SK System on 2002-10-15 15:00 [#00404624]
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One school of thought is that when a suspect begins to leave notes, they "want" to get caught...
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Nathan Jones
on 2002-10-15 15:03 [#00404628]
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No, he doesn't want to be caught, he just wants to fuck with people.
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Sido Dyas
from a computer on 2002-10-15 15:03 [#00404629]
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Maybe he's got a grudge with God and is trying to prove something with this.
A good that take more then give. Who knows whats in the head of a psycho like that. Im sure the upcomming books about these events will clear things up tho hehe! =)
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Netlon Sentinel
from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2002-10-15 15:04 [#00404632]
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don't forget upcoming movies :)
honestly, the world is rapidly becoming a hollywood movie
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-10-15 15:06 [#00404633]
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I wonder who's going to play the sniper in the Hollywood film? Billy Zane? He has experience.
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Sido Dyas
from a computer on 2002-10-15 15:06 [#00404634]
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Yeah i have noticed that to. The WTC events was like something out of Independence Day (crappiest movie ever made!!!)
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Netlon Sentinel
from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2002-10-15 15:07 [#00404635]
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that, and the bali attack, the finland attack, the french ship attack... the list goes on and on.. :(
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pomme de terre
from obscure body in the SK System on 2002-10-15 15:07 [#00404636]
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Just another case of life imitating art, imitating life...
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GIR
from Easton on 2002-10-15 15:30 [#00404648]
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yeah,i actually live in maryland...its quite a big deal around here. i think its about time we had our "serial killer" claim to fame.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-10-15 15:37 [#00404652]
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I hate that idolization of serial killers that has happened the last 15 years.
although according to some people serial killers are the monsters of our time, our own dragons.. except, they exist..
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-10-15 15:39 [#00404654]
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i think this guy is a guy who lives with his mom and has never gotten laid
sex is the universal cure for everything (except stds)
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-10-15 15:40 [#00404655]
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mm.. it'll probably be a little more complicated..
maybe there is no rational explanation for his actions. human psychology is very complex - there never is 1 reason why someone does something, all kind of factors are in play.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-10-15 15:41 [#00404656]
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i know
just trying to lighten the mood
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-10-15 16:00 [#00404680]
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i'm w/ pomme de terre. i find this whole thing hella interesting, and i'll take it a step further - i find it artistic as well. as you can see in the "from" field next to my name, i live in the area where he's shooting people. in addition, i have the utmost respect for human life - no one should be killed, even criminals. however, i also appreciate the aesthetic of it all. when's the last time a SNIPER was a mass murderer? propz to mr. shootybangbang for shaking things up a little in the dull, bomb-drunk, racially or religion motivated world of terrorism.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-10-15 16:01 [#00404682]
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theres been plenty of sniper mass murders man
well not recently
but there have been
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-10-15 16:02 [#00404683]
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and dont you go to college out of state?
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-10-15 16:03 [#00404685]
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name some. and as you said, "not recently." i can't name any. quit disagreeing w/ everything i say just for the hell of it.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-10-15 16:04 [#00404686]
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im not disagreeing for the hell of it
im just disagreeing
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2002-10-15 16:04 [#00404687]
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I disagree!
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-10-15 16:04 [#00404688]
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so what? cos i'm in my second year of school out of state that invalidates living in the dc area for 15 years?
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-10-15 16:05 [#00404689]
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I don't agree. I really wonder whether he murders for aesthetic reasons, so I don't see it with an 'artistic eye'.
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2002-10-15 16:06 [#00404690]
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I reckon the whole 'card' thing is one of two reasons:
He wants to look cool and scary
It gives him the option of pleading insanity if ever caught
Course, he could actually be a loony
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-10-15 16:06 [#00404691]
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bottomline is he's killing what seem to be random people, no art in that.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-10-15 16:09 [#00404695]
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I wonder who he is... I want to sit down and have a nice chat with him, pick his brain. I'm intrigued.
Maybe beat the shit out of him...
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Netlon Sentinel
from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2002-10-15 16:09 [#00404696]
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i wish he'd pick more challenging targets, though. he's a total wuss.
now good 'ole dubya bush would be one difficult target to hit, eh? a more fulfilling one too
;)
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-10-15 16:12 [#00404703]
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there is absolutely art in the random killings. it sucks to glorify a killer, but for the sake of explaining myself: he's rejecting the notion that people murder only for political, social, or personal reasons. his message: nothing (or no one) is safe. almost dadaist?
i think he's either very calculating about the whole thing or just totally crazy. and i agree w/ jar's hypotheses. the card and the "i am god" message are far from original, in fact that's pretty contrived. it serves its function in scaring the masses though, which i think is his overall intent (whoever he is).
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