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offline DJ Xammax from not America on 2002-10-16 10:55 [#00405662]
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Blowing up the world I mean, not stopping the
suffering....yes blow up the world.


 

offline str_ph from Cambridge (United Kingdom) on 2002-10-16 10:57 [#00405667]
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That won't stop other people to kill.

The key is called LOVE & RESPECT


 

offline neetta from Finland on 2002-10-16 10:58 [#00405669]
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what will?


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-10-16 11:00 [#00405673]
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nothing.

crime cannot be banned by upping your punishment laws.

I am so against capital punishment its not funny..

how can you say to a person "you should not kill people, its
morally wrong" and then kill them..?


 

offline neetta from Finland on 2002-10-16 11:01 [#00405675]
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i'm not for capital punishemnt either if you think that :)


 

offline str_ph from Cambridge (United Kingdom) on 2002-10-16 11:03 [#00405676]
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to kill the serial killer. That won't stop other people to
take another gun and shoot another people. So this is not a
solution - this is a compensation.


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-10-16 11:09 [#00405682]
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oh okay, sorry.. :)


 

offline Amonbrune from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-10-16 11:44 [#00405748]
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Well i believe an eye for an eye. its only right for society
to rid members that would be harmful to others. you know
like they hung people before. if you don't want to die
don't kill people. its really not that hard.


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-10-16 11:46 [#00405751]
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so you think the majority is always right? afterall, that's
what you're saying - society has the right to do as it
pleases, even if it's practicing hypocrisy (killing to
punish killing).


 

offline Amonbrune from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-10-16 11:48 [#00405758]
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i didnt' say the majority is always right.

so what are you going to do about? they catch this
guy...uhh..lets put him in jail for 5 years. yeah that'll
teach him one. comes back out and shoots people again.
why? cause his punishment isn't that hard. if he thought
okay if i kill someone i will die...hmm maybe i won't shoot
then...

smart choice!


 

offline Amonbrune from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-10-16 11:49 [#00405760]
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i know he'll get more than 5 years...thats not the point.
the point is what the punishment there is today isn't
enough...


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-10-16 11:49 [#00405761]
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but then your idea is that people can't change..

what would be the minimum to get electrocuted..?


 

offline Meho Krljic from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-10-16 11:50 [#00405762]
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All this punishment talk is bullshit. Society should prevent
crimes, not punish them.


 

offline neetta from Finland on 2002-10-16 11:50 [#00405764]
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i hope no one kills my cats :(


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-10-16 11:50 [#00405765]
Points: 14550 Status: Lurker



"it's only right for society.." you're saying that society
is infallible. so it was only right for 1930s german society
to practice genocide? it was only right for america to
enslave blacks for 200 years? i know you're not saying that,
but do you see my point? what's practiced isn't always
what's right. capital punishment is a barbaric custom that
has outlasted mass genoicide and slavery but is just as
evil.


 

offline Meho Krljic from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-10-16 11:51 [#00405767]
Points: 6617 Status: Addict



Fuck you all, guys I have a superfast collection here, Imma
find meself some porn


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-10-16 11:51 [#00405769]
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anyway, lots of people who go weird and kill lots of people
kill themselves at some point. they don't care anymore for
the law.

do you think the prospect of sitting in jail for say, 10
years is to be taken lightly..? "ah whats 10 years of my
life if I get to kill a few people"


 

offline Meho Krljic from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-10-16 11:51 [#00405770]
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Prevention, not punishment.


 

offline Amonbrune from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-10-16 11:51 [#00405771]
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Qrter: well death. its that simple. if you kill someone you
should die. it shouldnt even be questioned.


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-10-16 11:52 [#00405773]
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Meho: of course.


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-10-16 11:53 [#00405774]
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worst thing about capital punishment is that it can only
really be used if the justice system is infallible..
execution cannot be reversed.


 

offline Meho Krljic from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-10-16 11:54 [#00405778]
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Hello, Tits, I'm in a hotel 500 kilometers from home and I
have free internet and a superfast connection. I couldn't
resist checking up on you guys...


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-10-16 11:54 [#00405779]
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when you kill someone by accident..? death?

when you are an accessory..? death?


 

offline Meho Krljic from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-10-16 11:56 [#00405783]
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We should destroy monster societies we live in where we
don't get to know our peers. This anonimity actually creates
guys like this sniper dude. Small communities would prevent
guys like this from ever showing up and their "sentences"
would most of the time be faultless because in a small
community you get to know each other and if somebody says
that you should be sent into exile/ executed because you are
a threat to the community and all the rest know you are not,
then, what can go wrong...


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-10-16 11:58 [#00405784]
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well there is a lot to say for that.. but that can also lead
to "small-town mindedness".. everyone checking up on
eachother..


 

offline Meho Krljic from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-10-16 12:00 [#00405787]
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You are right about that. However, that's always something
that follows societies who try to present themselves beigger
than they actually are. In my perfect world communitites
would be small and happy to stay small, but also fluid,
people would want to travel from one to the other, to taste
different micro-cultures etc.


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-10-16 12:02 [#00405791]
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nice idea.

although I think most people would not want that
"fluidness". too scared.


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2002-10-16 12:03 [#00405793]
Points: 50073 Status: Moderator



meho where are you staying? if its allowed for public hehe
are you on vacation or bussines?
not much to do with topic :)


 

offline Meho Krljic from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-10-16 12:05 [#00405795]
Points: 6617 Status: Addict



qrter: it is our task to teach them not to fear. It is my
life's mission.

Tolstoyed: I'm in Podgorica (Former Titograd) in Montenegro,
in this nice Hotel Crna Gora. I have three beds in my room,
a mini-bar, a TV set and condoms in the drawer (I don't need
those as I only masturbate anyway). I'm actually on a
business trip, I have had meetings and "business lunches"
all day...


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2002-10-16 12:09 [#00405803]
Points: 50073 Status: Moderator



must visit sometime, ppl tell me its cool and "at good
price"
i've been there like 15 years ago, dont remember much
anymore-ill visit soon again :)


 

offline Meho Krljic from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-10-16 12:10 [#00405805]
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Good price? hahaha, you bastards, well, probably for your
standard 200 euros for bed & breakfast is a good price


 

offline Meho Krljic from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-10-16 12:11 [#00405806]
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Of, course, me being a Red Cross person, I have to pay only
80 eur...


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2002-10-16 12:12 [#00405807]
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shit, that sounds expensive :)


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2002-10-16 12:13 [#00405809]
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how do i apply for red cross?


 

offline LeCoeur from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2002-10-16 12:15 [#00405811]
Points: 8249 Status: Lurker



i think it's TWO peepz......that to me is even scarier than
ONE sniper, because whoever is driving this guy around
AGREE's with whatever nutty idea this guy has in his head.
or is a helpless pawn that doesn't have a choice.....maybe
an abused wife or girlfriend.

either way.....i hope they catch him alive, i would like to
hear what motivated him to do it......some ozzy osborn song?
some violent computer game.....i like hearing these
excuses.....

the innocent lives lost....the lives unlived are the real
tragedy......=/


 

offline Meho Krljic from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-10-16 12:16 [#00405812]
Points: 6617 Status: Addict



It is. They told me it was more expensive than Hyatt and I
laughed and then, when I got there and saw the prices I was
like, "wow, they didn't lie..." But there are a lot of other
hotels here...

You know what's a funny story: the montenegro has their
elections on sunday, so their TV is full of the election
candidates and parties talking their shit. I had a lot of
fun with watching their talks last night. Jesus, some
communist party talking about restoring socialism in this
country, they had me in tears in mere seconds...

However, it was quite depressing, when I got to the room, I
turned the TV on, and, on 10 or so TV channels, i couldn't
find ANYTHING in serbian. It was either america/ south
american TV shows on Montenegro TV, or italian and british
TV channels... Fuck, man, you know me, I'm no patriot, but
it still sounds fucking bad...


 

offline ward from Cheshire (United Kingdom) on 2002-10-16 12:17 [#00405813]
Points: 316 Status: Addict



I know this sounds kinda sick, but I was having a
conversation with my mate this morning abou this, and I
think it is kinda funny, I mean, I know people are dying &
people are beginnin to get scared but it's like a movie or
something.......


 

offline Meho Krljic from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-10-16 12:17 [#00405814]
Points: 6617 Status: Addict | Followup to LeCoeur: #00405811



Didn't that guz write to the papers and told them he is
god?

Tolstozed: I dunno, I got here almost accidentally...


 

offline ward from Cheshire (United Kingdom) on 2002-10-16 12:18 [#00405815]
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actually, there is actually a film about a sniper shooting
inicent people that should be out now, but has been delayed
until this sniper is caught.........

wierd....


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-10-16 12:18 [#00405816]
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qrter: precisely. the judicial system is VERY flawed. just
ask mumia.

Meho: in case it wasn't clear, i was responding to
amonbrune's comment before, not yours. i totally agree with
you: prevention is the best method.


 

offline Meho Krljic from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-10-16 12:18 [#00405817]
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It is like a movie indeed, another perverted piece of
evidence that it is not art emulating reality any more but
the other way round...


 

offline Meho Krljic from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-10-16 12:19 [#00405820]
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Tits, I know, it's OK, I was just enjoying my fast
connection and being able to post at high speed.


 

offline forck_02lynix from brooklyn on 2002-10-16 12:25 [#00405825]
Points: 4000 Status: Regular



i was thinking about this whole thing this morning, and how
its actually not that bad for the victims...they dont even
know theyve been shot...theyre out minding their own
business, and then....? nothing.... its worse for us who are
still alive because we have the fear now...

sucks though...bleh!


 

offline LeCoeur from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2002-10-16 12:37 [#00405835]
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he didn't write to the papers that i'm aware of ......they
found a tarot card (i think it was the death card) that had
that statement written on it. they don't know if it's
connected, but if not it's a pretty strange coinky dink!


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-10-16 12:42 [#00405842]
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you don't know that.

maybe they suffered a while, maybe there was even only 1
minute for the person to think "fuck I'm dying".. just as
awful.


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-10-16 12:43 [#00405844]
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and the death card doesn't even literally mean death..


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-10-16 12:45 [#00405846]
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Nope, but it doesn't matter WHAT it means, as long as he
keeps blowing people's heads off. In this case, death is
DEATH.


 

offline forck_02lynix from brooklyn on 2002-10-16 12:51 [#00405853]
Points: 4000 Status: Regular



qrter - yeah i know, it was just a thought...i was only
hoping that they wouldnt suffer, im not saying it doesnt
suck, but it puts us in fear... i was also only just waking
up.

lets put it this way: i would hope that the last thing the
victims had been thinking was fixed on whatever they were
doing.


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-10-16 12:52 [#00405854]
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He's going for body shots every time, never the head or
limbs. I wonder how the market for bullet proof vests is
right now. Buy some stock!


 

offline Bremzen from utrecht (Netherlands, The) on 2002-10-16 12:55 [#00405856]
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there are people who survived this, right?
if so, these people would probably never be able to go out
on the street without fear...


 


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