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           regital
             from Baltimore (United States) on 2002-10-15 13:26 [#00404495]
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 I'm afraid to go outside... the sniper can be anywhere
 
  
         
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           qrter
             from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-10-15 13:28 [#00404499]
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yeah, I can imagine. that must be terrifying.
  unbelievable, he's killed like 8 people hasn't he? and there  just isn't much the police can do.. 
 
  
         
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           Duble0Syx
             from Columbus, OH (United States) on 2002-10-15 13:28 [#00404500]
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I Am the Sniper!  Muahahah! Not really, but I wouldn't mind having his gun...
 
  
         
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           Jarworski
             from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2002-10-15 13:30 [#00404503]
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Has this been brought up before? I'm amazed if it hasn't  been. 
 
  I wouldn't be shit scared (hard to keep it in your mind all  the time) but fuck, any loud noises/gunshots near me walking  down the road and you wouldn't see me for dust...
 
  I think shit like this and the Bali bombing, Sept 11th etc  is just gonna get worse and worse and worse 
 
  
         
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           qrter
             from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-10-15 13:30 [#00404504]
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I would mind you having his gun.
  I mind him having his gun.
  de-gun all.
 
  
         
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           qrter
             from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-10-15 13:32 [#00404506]
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nah, there isn't more violence than before, just more and  quicker newscoverage. neetta did a thread on this subject  yesterday.. I'll see if I can find it and bump it for your  pleasure, Jarworski.. ;) 
 
  
         
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           Duble0Syx
             from Columbus, OH (United States) on 2002-10-15 13:38 [#00404522]
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I wouldn't be out shooting innocent people if I had a gun  like he does.  I think he should be sniping prison inmates  or something along those lines... 
 
  
         
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           qrter
             from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-10-15 13:40 [#00404525]
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thing about guns is (putting on my serious-cap now..), they  are devices made specifically for the incapacitating if not  killing of people.
 
  don't like that..
 
  
         
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           Wochtzchee
             from Tallinn (Estonia) on 2002-10-15 13:45 [#00404531]
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I can imagine your fear. US is a strange place it really is.
 
  
         
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           Netlon Sentinel
             from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2002-10-15 13:46 [#00404532]
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the whole thing reminds me of a millenium or x-files  episode.  
 
  
         
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           Sido Dyas
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Scary shit man! I heard he left a note to the police saying something like  "Dear mr policeman , i am god"
 
  We had a sniper here in sweden in the early 90's. John Ausonius , he was nicknamed "Laserman" because he used  a laser aim.
  He was a nazi psycho and the target was imigrants and people  with foreign bakround.
  Eventho i am 100% blond swede it was scary times walking  around the streets  , you felt naked and wonerable.
  I can't even begin to imagine how people with darker skin  felt.
  I guess thats what they get off on , the power of causing  all that fear and terror.
  He got caught tho and is serving a life sentence. He claims he has found jesus now and is trying to shorten  his sentence....fat chance!!! Once a psycho always a  psycho!
  People like that don't just get cured , it is a part in  their brain that is missing.
  It can be caused in their early baby state if they don't get  enough care or human contact , they don't develop the  Compasion part of the brain.
  You can explain and teach a psychopat that murdering  stealing lying and so on is wrong and he can accept that but  he can never ever understand why.
  Atleast thats what i have read.
 
  
         
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           recycle
             from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2002-10-15 14:10 [#00404553]
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the snipper(s) is a shit head and should be shot on the spot  himself/herself. 
 
  
         
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           Netlon Sentinel
             from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2002-10-15 14:15 [#00404555]
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he's america's biggest coward, too
 
  
         
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           Sido Dyas
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nah... he is not worth the bullet. Drowning or hanging is sheaper.
 
  
         
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           Ophecks
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Imagine being totally innocent and minding your own  business, and being shot by him! Infuriating to think about  it, the son of a bitch.
 
  I'm surprised this hasn't happened sooner, though. If he's  good, it's going to be VERY hard to catch him. Hell, from  the top of my house, I could shoot somebody downtown with a  sniper rifle, I live on a big hill and have a clear view of  hotels and everything. It's easy. He's got quite the kill  count, he probably thinks he's going to go down in history  as some demented hero. Can't wait till they catch him/her.  
 
  
         
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           Zeus
             from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-10-15 14:24 [#00404563]
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one of the most recent shootings happened near were i grew   up.
 
  i grew up in stafford VA, and there was a shooting at  spotsylvania mall. This is the mall i went to ALL the time  as a kid. its only like 10-15 min drive from my house. ive  been in the store that the lady who got shot walked out of
 
  its so fucked up
  and what pisses me off is the fucking media. they are like  "its obvious that the sniper is watching tv. we reported  that school were safe, then the next day he attacked a  school. then we reported this area was safe, and then he  attacked it. now, lets go talk to the police and see what  thier stratagy for finding the sniper is"
 
  WHAT THE FUCK
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           Zeus
             from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-10-15 14:25 [#00404565]
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one of the most recent shootings happened near were i grew   up.
 
  i grew up in stafford VA, and there was a shooting at  spotsylvania mall. This is the mall i went to ALL the time  as a kid. its only like 10-15 min drive from my house. ive  been in the store that the lady who got shot walked out of
 
  its so fucked up
  and what pisses me off is the fucking media. they are like  "its obvious that the sniper is watching tv. we reported  that school were safe, then the next day he attacked a  school. then we reported this area was safe, and then he  attacked it. now, lets go talk to the police and see what  thier stratagy for finding the sniper is"
 
  WHAT THE FUCK
  i hate the media
 
  
         
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             from All over (United States) on 2002-10-15 14:27 [#00404568]
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if I was on the East Coast, i'd want to shit my pants  filling my car up with gas and the like.
 
  Iono man, he basically works M-F and kills one a day.   Another one today.......that is 11 victims with 9 kills.
 
  Dunno if they have more information than they say, but shit,  so far the public knows NADA.  Still runs 24/7 on CNN and  the other all SCARY news channels. 
 
  
         
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           Netlon Sentinel
             from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2002-10-15 14:32 [#00404587]
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           Nathan Jones
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You'd think he'd be more clean cut about things.  Not  leaving shells and evidence like the card.  The white van  seems a bit suspicious too.  You'd think if you were to  snipe someone, you'd take more precautions.  I give him 3  more days until he's caught.  Unless he dumps the van.  If  he gets rid of that he might be able to go another 2 weeks.   He seems to be quite limited by the range of his gun though,  so I'm sure he'll be caught soon enough. 
 
  
         
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           Ophecks
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He's ''GOD''... who needs precautions?
 
  
         
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           pomme de terre
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Hate to be the Devil's advocate, but I know that I (and  probably a whole lot of people) have thought "I wonder if I  just went out and started shooting people, how long it would  take them to catch me" Now I know the answer-- A long time.
 
  I think the whole thing is kinda interesting. Sorry, I know  thats insensitive and stuff. But, It's the truth...
 
  If he shoots me or someone I know, I'll change my attitude.  And I'm not looking for more people to die or anything like  that.. I just think it's interesting. 
 
  
         
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It's beyond interesting, it's fucking amazing.  I don't  think it will take long to catch him though as he doesn't  clean his tracks. 
 
  
         
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           Ophecks
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Yeah, I am TOTALLY intrigued by this stuff. The whole  ''God'' thing, the tarot cards... this is fucking  facsinating shit. Right out of a movie. The guy must be (and  I know how sick this sounds) having the time of his life. 
 
  
         
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           pomme de terre
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One school of thought is that when a suspect begins to leave  notes, they "want" to get caught... 
 
  
         
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           Nathan Jones
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No, he doesn't want to be caught, he just wants to fuck with  people. 
 
  
         
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           Sido Dyas
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Maybe he's got a grudge with God and is trying to prove  something with this.
  A good that take more then give. Who knows whats in the head of a psycho like that. Im sure the upcomming books about these events will clear  things up tho hehe! =) 
 
  
         
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           Netlon Sentinel
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  honestly, the world is rapidly becoming a hollywood movie
 
  
         
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           Ophecks
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I wonder who's going to play the sniper in the Hollywood  film? Billy Zane? He has experience.  
 
  
         
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           Sido Dyas
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Yeah i have noticed that to. The WTC events was like something out of Independence Day  (crappiest movie ever made!!!) 
 
  
         
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           Netlon Sentinel
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that, and the bali attack, the finland attack, the french  ship attack... the list goes on and on.. :( 
 
  
         
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           pomme de terre
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Just another case of life imitating art, imitating life...
 
  
         
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           GIR
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yeah,i actually live in maryland...its quite a big deal  around here. i think its about time we had our "serial  killer" claim to fame. 
 
  
         
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           qrter
             from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-10-15 15:37 [#00404652]
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I hate that idolization of serial killers that has happened  the last 15 years.
 
  although according to some people serial killers are the  monsters of our time, our own dragons.. except, they exist.. 
 
  
         
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           Zeus
             from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-10-15 15:39 [#00404654]
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i think this guy is a guy who lives with his mom and has  never gotten laid
 
  sex is the universal cure for everything (except stds)
 
  
         
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           qrter
             from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-10-15 15:40 [#00404655]
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mm.. it'll probably be a little more complicated..
  maybe there is no rational explanation for his actions.  human psychology is very complex - there never is 1 reason  why someone does something, all kind of factors are in play. 
 
  
         
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           Zeus
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i know
  just trying to lighten the mood
 
  
         
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           titsworth
             from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-10-15 16:00 [#00404680]
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i'm w/ pomme de terre. i find this whole thing hella  interesting, and i'll take it a step further - i find it  artistic as well. as you can see in the "from" field next to  my name, i live in the area where he's shooting people. in  addition, i have the utmost respect for human life - no one  should be killed, even criminals. however, i also appreciate  the aesthetic of it all. when's the last time a SNIPER was a  mass murderer? propz to mr. shootybangbang for shaking  things up a little in the dull, bomb-drunk, racially or  religion motivated world of terrorism. 
 
  
         
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           Zeus
             from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-10-15 16:01 [#00404682]
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theres been plenty of sniper mass murders man
  well not recently
  but there have been
 
  
         
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           Zeus
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and dont you go to college out of state?
 
  
         
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           titsworth
             from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-10-15 16:03 [#00404685]
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name some. and as you said, "not recently."  i can't name  any. quit disagreeing w/ everything i say just for the hell  of it. 
 
  
         
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           Zeus
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im not disagreeing for the hell of it
  im just disagreeing
 
  
         
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           Jarworski
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I disagree!
 
  
         
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           titsworth
             from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-10-15 16:04 [#00404688]
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so what? cos i'm in my second year of school out of state  that invalidates living in the dc area for 15 years? 
 
  
         
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           qrter
             from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-10-15 16:05 [#00404689]
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I don't agree. I really wonder whether he murders for  aesthetic reasons, so I don't see it with an 'artistic eye'. 
 
  
         
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           Jarworski
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I reckon the whole 'card' thing is one of two reasons:
  He wants to look cool and scary
  It gives him the option of pleading insanity if ever caught
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           qrter
             from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-10-15 16:06 [#00404691]
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           Ophecks
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I wonder who he is... I want to sit down and have a nice  chat with him, pick his brain. I'm intrigued.
 
  Maybe beat the shit out of him...
 
  
         
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           Netlon Sentinel
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i wish he'd pick more challenging targets, though. he's a  total wuss. 
 
  now good 'ole dubya bush would be one difficult target to  hit, eh? a more fulfilling one too
 
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           titsworth
             from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-10-15 16:12 [#00404703]
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there is absolutely art in the random killings. it sucks to  glorify a killer, but for the sake of explaining myself:  he's rejecting the notion that people murder only for  political, social, or personal reasons. his message: nothing  (or no one) is safe. almost dadaist?
 
  i think he's either very calculating about the whole thing  or just totally crazy. and i agree w/ jar's hypotheses. the  card and the "i am god" message are far from original, in  fact that's pretty contrived. it serves its function in  scaring the masses though, which i think is his overall  intent (whoever he is). 
 
  
         
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