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Yes but my computer caches the pages so that I can view the company's website quicker...so in effect my PC is doing them a favour! |
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Meho. That makes sense. I'm thinking in a different way here and it's true what you say. Nost descriptions of a label are too broad. I hereby allow allow people to copy what I have written and use for their own purposes Copyright (C) Cobramarsh Ltd |
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I know, it's insane. I think copyright law has really been twisted from what it was originally intended for... I'm not 100% certain if it's still the case, but I think Cyprus still doesn't have copyright laws. At least copyright expires, by the time I'm old there'll be loads of videogames/music you can legally get copies of, just like classic literature now... |
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I have to go for a piss, but stay right there yall, I'll be back in a couple of seconds. |
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Is "cobramash" really a LTD. company? Do you have paperwork to prove it? Just teasing ;) Thnakfully, copyright is something the law only bothers with if someone makes a case, it's never "the state versus so-and-so " always one person who reckons someone else has ripped them off. |
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This is a great thread to read. It's completely changed subject yet is probably one of the most sensible topics I've seen here. |
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I know when I went to Cyprus a few years back they were selling pirate videos in 'reputable' shops. |
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Cobramarsh is a Ltd Company and I'm the director of it. I kid you not. It's worth fuck all but it's good to have as I can claim the tax back on my train fares to work. If someone needs a GIS/CAD consultant then I'm your man. |
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I can second thata |
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You know me, I think copyright is bullshit anyway. |
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How long have you been director? Jedi Chris Industries (c) 2002. All Rights Reserved |
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Yeah, a load of guys I worked with used to order pirate videos & games from cyprus. They seemed to be under the misconception that as it ws legal there if you imported it here it wasn't illegal as it was manufactured in a country where that law didn't apply. Bit like saying that you can bring weed home form amsterdam because it's legal there :) Giginger: I was tempted to do GIS as I was quite interested in it after A-level, but I wanted a more general degree. I've done a bit of CAD too, I had a Cad drawing of the millenium stadium months before it was released to the public. I'm quite slow compared to a real architect though and I'm crap at the 3d stuff. haven't done any in ages, last time I did it was to re-arrange the furniture in my gf's room without having to physically lug it around to different possitions. It was quite cool as due to the fact that my parents house at the time was the same architecturally (even down to the same measurements for walls etc) I then reused the drawing to do there room, just with new furniture added. |
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Copyright is laughable. I make copies of everything everywhere all the time. Stop me if you can. |
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Commie fag! ;) I think the idea of protecting intellectual property is good, but it's abused so much. Like if you design something like say a map/logo for a company you can really stitch them up by putting seemingly innocuous technical clauses to do with media and quantity in the contract then demand shitloads once they printed off flyers/put it on their website/product/whatever. My uni got done because they put a map online that they only owned the copyright to in printed form. The guy was demanding so much it became cheaper to commision another map for the website than pay to use the existing one. |
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What's your address & the telephone number of the local F.A.S.T. ? ;) |
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*starts dialling* |
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copyright only exists because of property rights .. (dare i even say because of our conception of language). |
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Language is facist (© Roland Barthes) .. |
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Let me put it this way: In the words of wise Stirner: "My property is whatever I can take", thus, intellectual property is laughable. You can copyright ideas? Once they leave your head, they are up for grabs. Design too, the way I see it. I know the artists work hard to come up with it, but, hey, unless you can prevent me from taking it, I'll take it as I please. |
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Shit, is that really Max? Ego & its own? |
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Jedi: About a year now. Ceri: I've been doing it about a year now. It's really interesting. About to do a course in 3D modelling so that should be good. I'm about to embark on a project doing my house in CAD and when I've done the course to do it on 3D as well. Going to be interesting. |
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One of my mates is doing a degree in 3d computer animation. He wants a job at somewhere like pixar. Hopefully I'll be able to tap him for work in progress renders etc. :) |
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Exactly. Is that the english translation? I always translate it to english like this "The only one and his property". |
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That's be sweet. I'm one of those Jammy Buggers who didn't go to Uni but has ended up in an alright job that actually has career prospects. Maybe not at this place but with all the experience I'm getting. They want me to set up an Intranet now so that people can access all the drawings. That's going to be a good laugh. Have to use some NHS custom program called Digerati. Never heard of it before but apparently it's great. I'll leave that till I see it. |
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i never finished reading that book (barely started actually) still on my "to read" list. Yeah Ego and its/his own is the title (i'm pretty sure, somthing along those lines anyway). Good shit!. |
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As for Copyright. Invented by some money grabbing git basically. I can understand if someone has spent a lot of time and effort on something and someone just takes it for free that they'd be pissed off but normally the people who bleat about it are the ones who've done sod and have just copyrighted something. |
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i wonder if anyone has copyrighted copyright? |
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I say, you take my design and I bust your kneecaps, no need to involve courts and lawyers... |
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This coming from the man who's nicked someones avatar. ;) |
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Nah, laws have to be public domain. I think it's actually specified that they need to be publically available as otherwise ignorance would be a sound defence. If they can say, well, you can get copies online (you can with most new acts of parliment) then you're scuppered :) |
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Your wise beyond your years Ceri. |
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ceri: yeah i know - just a half-assed attempt at being a smart arse :) ahh well .. time for me to hit the sack i suspect. |
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That's exactly my point. If Skodt was to come and demand that I give this avatar up, I'd do it out of respect to him as a person and fellow MB poster. If he was to sue me, I'd tell him to fuck off. If he then was to come over and beat my ass, he'd be entitled to have it... Simple as that. I say, your actual power to take or protect your property IS your right to that property. There is no "natural" right beyond power. So, ideas that I can "have" or use because you have made them public, are mine to have or use unless you can physically prevent me from it. |
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Good night, Korben, I have just started a reply to your email, so you'll get it in the morning I guess. |
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the law implies this power tho dunnit? or that's the idea behind it. no need for fisticuffs? |
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Wow. I'm going to start a copyright discussion tonight and that will be my point winning statement. I think I may place in my idol list. (",) |
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Meho: coo l.. i'll send one more scan before i log off k? :) |
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I'm not wise between my (y)ears though :) It's jsut my dad works in the patent office and one of our lecturers was copyright obsessed and gave you a 0. If your work breached copyright so I had to read up on it a lot. Meho: What you're suggesting sounds a lot like feudal fascism to me :) |
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The law is based on power, sure (Benjamin and derrida made sure we all know that), however, regarding intellectual property, the system always wants to make us think that it is not naked power that protects it, but also some natural law. Which is simply not true. Or factual, or whatever. Korben: I have sent that mail, so, yeah, another scan sounds great!!! Gigi: Idol list? Who else is on that list? |
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"I'm not wise between my (y)ears though :)" I see what you did there. I see what you did. What are peoples views on the Bootleg/Mashup scene? |
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Hahaha, Feudal Fascism??????????????? Feudalism and fascism are separated by 300 years of history methinks... |
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I made up the idol list. Sorry. But if I did have one then I'd put you on there out of respect. |
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I like the scene, like the idea, but of course 90% of the music is kinda crap once the inevitable "whoa, listen to THIS" effect pales. |
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Haha, along with Peter North and Ron Jeremy, I hope. |
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A good example of copyright licking balls here: Evil Dead DVD in the Book of the Dead case was supposed to have Sam Raimis very first film (Within the Woods) on it as well. Due to copyright problems it was left off. He, Bruce Campbell and Rob Tapert own the copyright to that film. They made the film, never released it so no company can claim to own the rights. Why was it left off? Because when they filmed it they didn't have a lot of money so didn't re-shoot a lot of scenes. In the background of one of the scenes a car goes past and you can catch a slight bit of a song as it goes. Thus the film has it on it's soundtrack so they have to pay royalties for the song. How ridiculous is that? |
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That's what I am about. Screw those petty assholes and go with it I say. |
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re bootlegs: My thoughts exactly. Most of them seem to use the same acapellas. Public Enemy: Bring the Noise Missy Elliott: Get ur freak on The Hives etc, There used to be a lot of originality but not anymore. Every now and then a classic pops up. Osymyso's Introspection being one of them. re idol list: Oh yes and John Holmes for that old Skool flava. |
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Here's some words from the original copyright-basher himself: http://www.halcyon.com/robinja/mythos/Plunderphonics.html |
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Kind of kidding, should of said "Primal" Fascism (less "Civility" about it) ;) |
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So much for the Invisability Cloak.... I'd love to hide in elevators/lifts pressing all the buttons that'd be fun! (getting back on topic) |
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