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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-09-08 06:14 [#00383867]
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I'm listening to Blue Monday, and I am liking it. A lot.
That 80's sound, but I don't find it that cheesy at all... badass. This is the '88 remix, I gotta get the original.
What should I get from New Order, what's yer fave tracks/albums?
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LeCoeur
from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2002-09-08 06:29 [#00383877]
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'blue monday' is definately one of my fav's
i also like 'bizzare love triangle' and 'world in motion' are the only two i can think of off the top of ME HEAD tho =0)
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DaWeeze
from WANTED IN 16 STATES! on 2002-09-08 06:30 [#00383878]
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Substance is a 2CD album and definitely worth checking out...
Also checkout www.neworderweb.com...
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steve
from chicago on 2002-09-08 06:48 [#00383894]
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Joy Division / New Order to me is like the Beatles to you. I love everything. I usually recommend people get Substance by New Order to start out with, it's 2 CDs chock full of 80's goodness. A lot of classics on there like Temptation, Blue Monday, True Faith, also a couple of Joy Division songs redone 'Ceremony' and 'In a Lonely Place', track 1's on their respective discs. After that i'd recommend their first album Movement, it's a good transition album from Joy Division to New Order because Sumner's vocals on it sound a lot like Ian's. After that if you're still interested you'll probably just get everything you can find.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-09-08 07:01 [#00383901]
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I've seen a few videos by them on Much More Music, so I'm sure I'll like this band... that was some great stuff. I'll check out your recos, merci beaucoup.
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naaic
from Uppsala (Sweden) on 2002-09-08 07:06 [#00383906]
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i'm a big new order fan myself, like the others said, substance is an excellent starting point....technique is another one of my favorite new order releases, definitely check that one out as well.
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Ubik
from United States on 2002-09-08 14:07 [#00384002]
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Joy Division and early to mid-80s New Order are dated but great (Joy Division's lead singer was serious about his anger and depression and hung himself in 1980, New Order is the rest of the band, which added the drummers girlfriend to helpout)
its sort of post-punk, post-kraftwerk hybrid predating house and Warp IDM. the problem is that all they left the singles off of all the earlier albums, you had to buy them seperate. Joy Division's Closer (1980) is a great great record, but does not have the famous singles "Atmosphere" or "Love Will tear Us Apart" (which Squarepusher has just reverently covered on his new record). Joy Divsion has some of the darkest, most oppressive songs ever...
New Order's best is Power, Corruption, and Lies (1982), which didnt have "Blue Monday" on it, it was 12" single only. a couple of other sequencer/early analog electro crazy classics not on album were the "Everything's Gone green" singles and "Tempation". "Bizarre Love Triangle" is so funny and cool, so dated, with its naive early attempt at whiteboy breakbeat that is just silly, and its typically nonsense lyrics, it just works like crazy.
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sine707
from Frankfurt (Germany) on 2002-09-08 14:13 [#00384005]
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"true faith" awesome song, especially the video! just great! d/l the video! :)
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Ubik
from United States on 2002-09-08 14:38 [#00384016]
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talking of videos, they have a cool "live" video in the studio, just filmed making the song live because New Order refused to get involved in all the MTV video silliness, which was sort of a first (they were very "indie" back then, they refused to lipsinc "Blue Monday" on TV.
later they made one of the funniest videos ever, that few people ever got to see, the "touched by the hand of god" video, which made fun of 80s videos. New Order dressed up like a big-haired heavy metal band for the video and lipsic and play instraments that are not even in the song, very silly, but then also in the video (by a woman director) they had a side story where this woman was being chased/attacked by a stalker/exboyfriend/rapist or something, and she is terrified but the man breaks into her car, then she gets turned on and presumably has sex with him... meant to satire the misongynistic way women were being portrayed in videos... funny, controversal, and disturbing... which is way it was never played on MTV in the states.
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smokehammer
from Saigon (Vietnam) on 2002-09-08 14:38 [#00384017]
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Ubik> Sumner then formed Electronic with Johnny Marr from the Smiths , ..... a great musical family tree
"World in motion" because it reminds me of the summer of 1990 :)
BTW you need to sort out that twitch sine ;D
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MachineofGod
from the land of halo's (United States) on 2002-09-08 14:42 [#00384021]
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Low-life is a good album. I got it for 25 cents too. I still wanna get some more joy division\new order.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-09-09 04:13 [#00384704]
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Downloading some New Order/Joy Division right now, and listening to ''Love Will Tear Us Apart''... this is a lot better than Tom J's LWTUA. :-)
Sounds dated, but sounds cool... can't wait to hear the rest of this stuff.
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2002-09-09 04:36 [#00384718]
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'Substance' released in 1988 is all the proper versions of their singles from 81-88, its great! they lost their appeal for me afterwards, although co-incidently i just d/l 'fine time' which is from 1989.
definately get substance: it has blue monday orig., bizarre love trangle, the perfect kiss (my fav) and subculture (proper non-album version).
oh and it also has confusion which you'll probably recognise from some film or other :)
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-09-09 15:02 [#00385367]
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''Twenty Four Hours'' from Closer is one of the best songs I've ever heard. Ian Curtis has an amazing voice.
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2002-09-09 15:09 [#00385377]
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Karma To Burn cover that track, I've never heard the original but you might be interested. Might not. Who knows.
*BANG*
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i am dgoHn
from outta fucking space (Yemen) on 2002-09-09 15:09 [#00385378]
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i watched '24 hour party people' last night. i was impressed. it's very good, and very informative for those who don't much about it all.
steve coogan is brilliant.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-09-09 15:13 [#00385384]
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VERRRRY interested, thanks Jar-boy. ;-)
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Paco
from Gothenburg (Sweden) on 2002-09-09 15:42 [#00385419]
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My fave is probably 'Touched by the Hand of God'. That track brings back memories from the fifth grade, when I was in love with this half-Polish girl named Tina.
She was the cutest.
Check out Confusion (bump panel mix, as in Blade), also Hardfloor's and Richie Hawtin's remixes of Blue Monday.
-P
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acidophilus
from the gates of dawn on 2002-09-09 15:48 [#00385424]
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substance = essential
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Peter File
from the future!!! Ooooh chase me! on 2002-09-09 16:12 [#00385442]
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Oh ja, gotta love the True Faith.
And, to a lesser extent, the Blue Monday.
Not so keen on any of the stuff I heard from the album they released last year, but this thread has convinced me to get Substance.
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