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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-09-07 23:54 [#00383466]
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I've realized that I never sit down and listen to an album straight through... ever. Even ''concept'' albums like the Wall and DSOTM... I never listen to them all the way through, I'll skip around however I want and just ignore the boring parts.
Even before I used MP3s, I'd switch CDs around like a bitch, low attention span. Now that Winamp makes it so simple... I listen to whatever the fuck I want, regardless of album, really. I just make my own mental playlists determined by my mood, the artist has no say in it whatsoever. I like individual tracks, I don't really care what they make as a whole... again, MP3 has just made me like this even more.
Are you a ''put the album in and relax'' type or ''whatever the fuck you want to hear at the moment'' type?
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Darth manchu
from Cambridge (United Kingdom) on 2002-09-07 23:56 [#00383468]
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I only listen to an album in full when im stuck in bed and too sleep to put something else on.
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Clipper
from in a cave with my two friends (United States) on 2002-09-07 23:57 [#00383470]
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it really depends for me...sometimes i'll listen to albums straight through (like neutral milk hotel or something)...and sometimes i'll skip around (aphex twin)
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Phresch
from fucking Trondheim (Norway) on 2002-09-08 00:00 [#00383475]
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same as Darth Manchu....but yeah, i love my mp3's. If i can't afford the CD, or if 50% of the album is shit, i just go home and download the best tracks off it.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2002-09-08 00:00 [#00383476]
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the only album at the moment that i listen from begining to an end is AILERON by rotor+, because it's an album made to be listened like this-it kind of make sense
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2002-09-08 00:07 [#00383484]
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i have exactly the opposite problem
when i start listening to an album, i force myself to listening to the end of it for god knows what reason, even if its 6am in the morning, even if i'm not particularly enjoying it
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CORTEX
from Canada on 2002-09-08 00:08 [#00383486]
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i constantly listen to albums from start to finish, it's pretty rare i skip a track or two.
the only time i listen to random tracks is when im on the net and listening to mp3s.
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Smyrma
from Beloit, WI (United States) on 2002-09-08 00:14 [#00383493]
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I do both; it depends how long I will be listening to music. I usually listen to entire albums though.
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uzim
on 2002-09-08 00:19 [#00383497]
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i happen to skip tracks, but not very often... i prefer listening to albums from the beginning to the end.
methinks i think that skipping a track of 'the downward spiral' by NIN, for example (any other concept album), is disrespectful towards the artist and the album, because every track has its importance and is a step of the spiral; it would be like skipping a chapter you don't like in a book...
i don't see anything wrong with skipping tracks of albums like ICYBD for example though.
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uzim
on 2002-09-08 00:21 [#00383499]
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oops! "methinks i think"... that's what happens when editing a post without rereading it before posting...
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2002-09-08 00:22 [#00383501]
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if i would listen to a whole album, it would probably take me a whole year to here a certain album-so i prefer to skip tracks-jut to bring some diversity in
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CORTEX
from Canada on 2002-09-08 00:25 [#00383503]
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i completely agree, especially nin's downward spiral.
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-09-08 00:29 [#00383504]
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if you never listen to an album all the way through, just the parts you're in the mood for, you're a fool. you paid full price (ok, i know, you like to download.. bear with me on this analogy) for only half of the songs whereas those of us "album listeners" can grow to love the other songs. sometimes the best songs don't "click" at first.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2002-09-08 00:30 [#00383506]
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i usually listen to every album at least twice from begining to an end
hehe
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010101
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-09-08 00:36 [#00383508]
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I like listening to albums from the beginig to the end. I guess that is how the artists intended them to be heard.
I remember when all I had was a tape player and I didn't have a choice.
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Darth manchu
from Cambridge (United Kingdom) on 2002-09-08 00:37 [#00383511]
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tapes are great, thats why i make more tapes than CDs and things, i love the fuzz and being straped in and taken for a ride.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2002-09-08 00:38 [#00383512]
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fast forward?
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Phresch
from fucking Trondheim (Norway) on 2002-09-08 00:45 [#00383515]
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did anyone here mix with tapes. like cut-mixing shit. i remember i did it A LOT when i was younger. pause-rec-pause-pause. heh- it was good fun.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-09-08 00:46 [#00383517]
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Harsh... I hardly think the way I prefer to listen to music qualifies me as a FOOL, and this has been going on long before I had MP3s, I scratched the shit out of my Pink Floyd albums from switching them around so often. And yeah, I payed full price for what sometimes only amounted to what was maybe HALF of an album that I liked, and I felt ripped off... but I'm not going to force myself to like what doesn't interest me. I DO give songs time to grow, but some don't EVER click with me, personally. If they click for the ''album listeners'', great...
I know some songs take longer to click... but some songs... just suck, and/or I don't like them, and will NEVER like them, so I don't bother.
I had no idea I had to sit through the whole balance of Drukqs, lest I be a ''fool''!
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-09-08 00:47 [#00383518]
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I hate tapes... no fast way to skip tracks, which I, being a foolhardy lad, like to do. ;-)
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Darth manchu
from Cambridge (United Kingdom) on 2002-09-08 00:47 [#00383519]
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yeah, i used to make a bit out of selling indie tapes to the 'musos' although they stopped buying them after i put autechre on.
oh well.
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ecnadniarb
on 2002-09-08 00:49 [#00383521]
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I listen to a couple of albums right the way through, but not many though. I can listen to SAWII right the way through and all of the Autechre ones except Confield.
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-09-08 00:56 [#00383525]
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relax ophecks i wasn't singling you out. however, to reply to what you said, most people don't "force" themselves to like a song. songs just naturally grow on people. by listening to a whole album you get a better appreciation for what the artist was doing with that GROUP of songs. if you never give the songs a chance after your initial listen, you're only cheating yourself - hence the "fool" comment. let's take nin's 'the downward spiral' for example. a lot of people just straight up do NOT like instrumentals. thus they might skip "a warm place" after they've listened to it once and heard it didn't have lyrics. what a shame would that be; a lot of nin fans consider that one of his best songs. this is only one of many applicable examples - insert name of classic album here. the fact that so many people talk about a certain song or revere a whole album (meaning collective, continuous work) as a masterpiece should clue you (that's you as in everyone, not jay worth alone) into the fact that you are missing out big time.
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MachineofGod
from the land of halo's (United States) on 2002-09-08 01:08 [#00383535]
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all the way through only. a cd isnt worth buying if all the songs arent good, cds SHOULD flow and have a main theme
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-09-08 01:09 [#00383540]
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I know people don't force themselves to like a song, I was talking about me... if I dislike part of the album, and I DO often, that's it, I'm ripped off and I'll NEVER like it.
And I know I'm missing out somewhat... I'm not PROUD that I'm a an album whore and can't stick to just one. ;-) But that's how I am. I can appreciate that albums as a whole are important, but it's just not my way and I can't help it.
There's actually very few songs that I'll skip on good albums... I like just about everything Radiohead has done, and in my skippy journeys, I'll listen to all their tracks at SOME point, I've gotten to love them all on their own. In an album context... eh, I guess I'm missing something. Ach well.
Confield grew on me, but more on a track by track basis, spread out... but I definitely gave every track on the album ample time to grow on me, but maybe not all at once...
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Phresch
from fucking Trondheim (Norway) on 2002-09-08 01:10 [#00383542]
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what i meant was making remixes out of songs by recording bits-and-bits- together from a CD, or a double-deck cassette...:)
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-09-08 01:12 [#00383547]
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how are you ripped off just cos a song didn't click with you right away? some music is difficult and takes a degree of analysis before understanding. i dunno, i understand what you're saying but i honestly do feel bad for you cos myself and others on this thread get so much more out of music than you seem to. and i'm not "PROUD" of that either, just a statement of fact.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2002-09-08 01:15 [#00383553]
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surely you prefer some tracks to others
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diablo
on 2002-09-08 01:19 [#00383561]
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i agree home taping is cool
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-09-08 01:19 [#00383562]
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''Ripped off'' was a poor choice of english, I was just using it because you mentioned something about ''paying full price for albums'' and all that. Ignore that brain freeze.
I get SO MUCH out of music! Too much... don't worry about me, I'm getting a shitload out of it. I don't just hop from track to track randomly, I always have a unifying reason behind it... I have mental playlists of similar/contrasting songs and all this wacky shit. It's totally dictated by my mood/emotions and all sorts of deep undefinable and personal things yadda yadda yadda. I CAN and have listen to albums as wholes, but I prefer not to. I've yet to find a perfect album, there's always a weakness that kind of hurts the experience for ME, and I fix it myself, personalized.
Honestly, the last thing you need to do is... erm, ''feel bad for me''. :-) I love listening to music the way I do, I always feel so rushed, trying to get in as much great music as I can in the exact order and way that I want it. I always have a different vision from what the artist apparently had.
Don't cry for me. 0_o
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Darth manchu
from Cambridge (United Kingdom) on 2002-09-08 01:22 [#00383569]
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but its killing music :)
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-09-08 01:23 [#00383573]
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argentina
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Darth manchu
from Cambridge (United Kingdom) on 2002-09-08 01:23 [#00383574]
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clever that. nice
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diablo
on 2002-09-08 01:25 [#00383576]
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and it's illegal!
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-09-08 01:26 [#00383578]
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I was actually going to type that myself, but thought I spelled it wrong. ;-)
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corngrower
from the fertile grounds of Iowa, w (United States) on 2002-09-08 01:27 [#00383583]
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I usually just listen to whatever tracks be ticklin my fiddle via mp3s, but I do enjoy buying and listening to good albums start to finish, seems like a sort of ritual... I also often listen to full albums while donating plasma or doing homework
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