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offline JAroen from the pineal gland on 2002-09-05 14:24 [#00380244]
Points: 16065 Status: Regular



personally i dont believe there is a god, i mean science
has proven that ppl werent made by god but by small beetles
evolving into bigger beetles etc.etc. and if there was a god
he would be a fucking funnypants just think of ebola, people
with a mental handicap or just people locking themselves in
or fucking ugly ppl then he's laughing his ass off right
now..

maybe god had a bad day once and farted so bad the galaxy
was created and he died afterwards... who knows

what do YOUthink of god?


 

offline phiz from Liverpool (United Kingdom) on 2002-09-05 14:35 [#00380253]
Points: 2622 Status: Lurker



god backwards is dog

thats my theory anyway


 

offline LuckyPsycho from a long way from home (United Kingdom) on 2002-09-05 14:37 [#00380259]
Points: 369 Status: Lurker



God is Love... apparently!!

I think a believe in God, or a God, or many Gods should be a
very personal thing. Its about having faith in something. I
personally have faith in myself and in the natural
universe...and therefore need no external God.

I see no problem with people believing in God... the
problems start when those people start coming together to
form religions. Religion is an incidious scar on the face of
humanity, and is the main reason (by a long way) for all
conflict in the world.



 

offline LuckyPsycho from a long way from home (United Kingdom) on 2002-09-05 14:38 [#00380260]
Points: 369 Status: Lurker



belief even



 

offline LuckyPsycho from a long way from home (United Kingdom) on 2002-09-05 14:40 [#00380263]
Points: 369 Status: Lurker



Science has proven very little about the origins of mankind.
Evolution is STILL a theory, and a theory that has little
factual evidence.


 

offline JAroen from the pineal gland on 2002-09-05 14:40 [#00380264]
Points: 16065 Status: Regular



"the
problems start when those people start coming together ...
is the main reason (by a long way) for all
conflict in the world. "

you is talking my language

it just makes me sick seeing ppl in churches spending 10
bucks to light a candle for god so they wont go to hell or
something while the religious leaders sit with their dicks
in champaign and shit


 

offline phiz from Liverpool (United Kingdom) on 2002-09-05 14:48 [#00380272]
Points: 2622 Status: Lurker



say four hail marys and six hows yer fathers and you shall
be forgiven, whats all that about???


 

offline LuckyPsycho from a long way from home (United Kingdom) on 2002-09-05 14:55 [#00380292]
Points: 369 Status: Lurker



People fear death... that is the ONLY reason that religion
and the notion of God still survive today.

I see little point in fearing something that either I won't
know about (I die and thats it) or I can't predict (I die
and something happens)....WHAT IS SCARY ABOUT THAT?!


 

offline Laserbeak from Netherlands, The on 2002-09-05 15:02 [#00380311]
Points: 2670 Status: Lurker



Something must have started time/space/matter and all the
laws on which science is based...
There probably is somekind of god but totally not like the
one in the bible or other religious books. I think it exists
in another dimension that we can not speak about since our
words are made for this world. Therefore I think no one can
know "more" or "less" about god, it's beyond our capacity.
Yes, I agree that god is being abused a lot by the
powerhungry.


 

offline uzim on 2002-09-05 15:07 [#00380327]
Points: 17716 Status: Lurker



maybe something exists, which could be considered as "god",
but maybe it's just a force or something... without a
personality methinks... maybe it's an entire people or race
that we cannot see which created the universe we live in and
maybe which control us... who knows?


 

offline LuckyPsycho from a long way from home (United Kingdom) on 2002-09-05 15:14 [#00380343]
Points: 369 Status: Lurker



Maybe these people live in my arse and are made of
creamcheese and chive pringles... or maybe not


 

offline TonyFish from the realm of our dreams on 2002-09-05 15:15 [#00380347]
Points: 3349 Status: Lurker | Followup to LuckyPsycho: #00380343



wouldn't that be rather painful ?


 

offline LuckyPsycho from a long way from home (United Kingdom) on 2002-09-05 15:18 [#00380358]
Points: 369 Status: Lurker



Pain is an emotion that can be controlled, especially when
God lives in your ass!


 

offline Cabbog from Chautauqua (United States) on 2002-09-05 15:32 [#00380420]
Points: 2294 Status: Regular



I KNOW there's a God..
Render me a mathematical equation for Love and I'll debate
with you. C.S. Lewis said that every man is born with a
God-shaped vacuum in his heart.. What he chooses to fill it
with is a choice of his own, but there's only thing out of
the myriad that won't dissolve.
Though my actions don't show this like they should, I
believe without a shadow of a doubt that this is true.


 

offline Cabbog from Chautauqua (United States) on 2002-09-05 15:37 [#00380432]
Points: 2294 Status: Regular | Followup to LuckyPsycho: #00380358



Why would you say something so absentminded? You recognize
that God is a possibility yet you slander him like garbage.


 

offline Chri5py from my Solarbear (United Kingdom) on 2002-09-05 15:41 [#00380444]
Points: 2903 Status: Lurker



My Father once said: "Son, If you want to make friends in
life, don't talk about religion or politics."

So I won't :)


 

offline LuckyPsycho from a long way from home (United Kingdom) on 2002-09-05 15:43 [#00380450]
Points: 369 Status: Lurker



He is a possibility, but not one that I happen to agree
with... in the slightest. I can accept that others have
faith in something that I don't, and I can respect that.


 

offline Cabbog from Chautauqua (United States) on 2002-09-05 15:51 [#00380468]
Points: 2294 Status: Regular | Followup to LuckyPsycho: #00380450



"I can accept that others have
faith in something that I don't, and I can respect that."
and "God lives in your ass!" don't mix well.



 

offline brendan from Adelaide (Australia) on 2002-09-05 15:55 [#00380473]
Points: 157 Status: Regular | Followup to Chri5py: #00380444



He got you there...

By the way, i agree with Chri5py, your father is a wise man.



 

offline jonesy from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-09-05 15:57 [#00380476]
Points: 6650 Status: Lurker | Followup to Chri5py: #00380444



My parents say the same thing. So I hit 'em with a big spiel
about Marxism and the class struggle hehe.


 

offline xlr from Boston (United States) on 2002-09-05 17:38 [#00380568]
Points: 4904 Status: Regular



Very well put Cabbog. (that part about love and the
god-shaped vacuum).


 

offline Murray from Southend, Essex (United Kingdom) on 2002-09-05 17:40 [#00380571]
Points: 4891 Status: Lurker



To quote Tom Waits:

"There is a leak in the boiler room: The poor, the lame, the
blind! Who are the ones we kept in charge? Killers, thieves
and lawyers! God's away on business"


 

offline Atop from Texas (United States) on 2002-09-05 19:05 [#00380696]
Points: 400 Status: Regular



People that can't talk about religion or politics are hiding
behind the fact that they are just ignorant in these
matters,
as most are.

My real friends and I can talk about them all day, so your
father, Chrispy, was just shutting you off to a world that
is quite worth while to explore.

and as for God,
matters which one you're talking about.

The blind one that created us and was in love with us untill
we found out we could be just as powerful as him
and then proceeded to leave us to
fend for ourselves here on Earth,
or the one that has been and will always
have been and can't really be
understood untill we die.

and then there are thousands of others
that we have created just by thinking
about them.

You're right on LuckyPsycho!
God is love and that's about as
simple as we can get with it,
withou getting all confused
with definitions and explanations.

and Cabbog, you really believe that there's a god that cares
when you
use his name in vain,
that God never existed my friend,
only in the imagination of people.

The ten commandments were created by Moses, not God, to calm
his poeple down,
they were acting like savages and couldn't understand the
real laws
that were dictated to Moses by his higher self, not
Jehovah.

The bible has been changed and changed,
and is no longer what it once was so you must
read through the lines.

IT IS NOT LITERAL!

you can believe whatever you want to and it will be right
for cause we are all
creating God-like creatures that will
be able to make anything come true with the right amount of
thought put forth.

Thanks for listening!

AkkadTheOrphicPriest



 

offline dariusgriffin from cool on 2002-09-05 19:15 [#00380715]
Points: 12433 Status: Regular



"Who is God? Well, it's an invisible person, and he lives up
in heaven, up there."

"God is someone who rules the world. He's sort of like a
spirit, I guess, up in outer space. He kind of started all
the plants growing, and he started all the people, and I
guess he's kind of big and fat."

"He can see us whatever we do, whatever we do, he has such
powerful eyes, he has to have millions and thousands and
billions, and he can still see us when we're bad."

"He could be sitting on the table right now, but you can't
see him."

"If he was a bad man, he would make everything bad, and we
wouldn't have electricity, he wouldn't make people, that's
what would happen if God wasn't nice."

"... he's not though, a lot of people think he's just a
feeling, but I think he's a real person."

"Well, I think that God isn't a person, but he's up in the
heavens, and he's watching over us right now."

( Boards of Canada - From One Source All Things Depend )


 

offline brendan from Adelaide (Australia) on 2002-09-05 19:17 [#00380721]
Points: 157 Status: Regular | Followup to Atop: #00380696



No. Only the smallest of minds get caught up in all this
trivial bullshit. I've talked about religion enough.. I'm
not hiding from anything, i just don't care, how's that?


 

offline Smyrma from Beloit, WI (United States) on 2002-09-05 19:27 [#00380743]
Points: 2478 Status: Lurker



I don't know if there is a god and no one convince me that
there is or that there isn't

hope that makes sense


 

offline LuckyPsycho from a long way from home (United Kingdom) on 2002-09-05 19:27 [#00380744]
Points: 369 Status: Lurker



I take back the ass ting.

It was insensitive, I'm sorry


 

offline Atop from Texas (United States) on 2002-09-05 19:35 [#00380757]
Points: 400 Status: Regular



you're dumb,
how bout them apples!

Keep on being the math nerd that you love to be I won't hold
in against you.

only your higher self will.

Akkad


 

offline Atop from Texas (United States) on 2002-09-05 19:37 [#00380761]
Points: 400 Status: Regular



sorry was talking to Brendan that time.

Akkad


 

offline smokehammer from Saigon (Vietnam) on 2002-09-05 19:52 [#00380781]
Points: 1463 Status: Lurker



well I've met God

and she's not nearly as wonderful as people make out.


 

offline evolume from seattle (United States) on 2002-09-05 19:59 [#00380787]
Points: 10965 Status: Regular



"I've been from one side of this galaxy to the other, I've
seen a lot of crazy things, but I've never seen anything
that would make me believe that there is one all-powerful
force controling everything."


- Han Solo


 

offline The_Funkmaster from St. John's (Canada) on 2002-09-05 20:04 [#00380794]
Points: 16280 Status: Lurker



I believe in God yes...

and to comment on the very first post here, it actually
hasn't been proven that creatures evolve, and that we
evolved from a fish that grew legs and walked on land...
it's a theory... a theory which I believe Scientists believe
in just because they can't bring themselves to actually make
a leap of faith and believe that a God created all this...
it's stupid to me to say that all this universe grew from an
explosion... and that life was created accidentally, and
evolved into the intelligent and complex beings that we
are... and another question, what caused the big bang?

both theories are unprovable right now, and so it all comes
down to one thing... you either are able to believe in the
supernatural at certain times, or are not and can only
believe in things which are proven by science... or in other
words, you're either not restricted to wha you can see and
touch, or are restricted to that, and are unable to conceive
of anything other then that... scientists say that God is
unprovable, and is thus non-existant, well let me ask, why
should our science at this point be able to prove that
something all powerful, and supernatural exists or not? Not
believing in God just because science hasn't proven that God
exists is pretty stupid imo, but hey, if you don't believe
in God it's fine with me... just don't put me or anyone else
down for believing in him...

that second paragraph was too no one in particular, just
some of my thoughts... the first paragraph was in response
to the first message...


 

offline The_Funkmaster from St. John's (Canada) on 2002-09-05 20:05 [#00380795]
Points: 16280 Status: Lurker | Followup to evolume: #00380787



but he was wrong in the movie, because there was a "force"
controlling everything...


 

offline evolume from seattle (United States) on 2002-09-05 20:09 [#00380798]
Points: 10965 Status: Regular | Followup to LuckyPsycho: #00380263



evolution is not a theory.
a scientist hypothesises a theory then does scientific
experiments to disprove that theory. after much research,
the evidence will only back up a theory untill there is
little doubt in its validity but does not prove that theory
outright.

evolution is, rather, and explanation for observed factual
data ( the fossil record, D.N.A. "molecular clock",
variation of species etc...)

its kinda confusing but in short, evolution is like the
opposite of a theory. most 100 level biology books can and
do explain this in greater detail.

and if you want to be biblical, the bible doesn't give God's
means of creation, only the ends. taken as a figurative
text, God could have used evolution as a means to create
life during the 7 days; which could figuratively mean 7
billion years which is not far off of the age of the
universe which i believe is approx 7-10 billion years old.

but i don't believe in God. maybe A god or gods or a super
power or mind boggling coincedence or something but not a
christian god.



 

offline evolume from seattle (United States) on 2002-09-05 20:12 [#00380802]
Points: 10965 Status: Regular | Followup to The_Funkmaster: #00380794



i agree
science won't prove or disprove the existence of god. that
is the nature of faith.
faith in god, faith in science. they are very similar
concepts.


 

offline Laqeuro from New York City (United States) on 2002-09-05 20:43 [#00380843]
Points: 3167 Status: Regular



do i believe there's a god?

there could be one

but then again their couldn't be one

no ones ever really proved there is one, but no ones really
ever proven this theroy of evolution or what ever it's
called, sure we look like apes, does that mean we came from
apes? maybe, but then where did apes come from, where did
the the thing that made apes come from, where did anything
come from? it's one of those questions that we will never
figure out until we either a) die b) find hardcore evidence
that this theroy is correct. but even if this theroy is
proved i probably still won't believe it, i'd rather just
wait until i die.


 

offline afxNUMB from So.Flo on 2002-09-05 21:00 [#00380874]
Points: 7099 Status: Regular



I faithfully believe in God =)

A few people have stated their opinions and I agree with 2
of them. So I'm leaving it as I faithfully believe in God.


 

offline ExHore from Stamford, Ct. (United States) on 2002-09-05 21:03 [#00380884]
Points: 2157 Status: Regular



god, haha, what a joke, can't believe people are still
falling for that one.


 

offline Cabbog from Chautauqua (United States) on 2002-09-05 21:11 [#00380907]
Points: 2294 Status: Regular



Christ said to Thomas: "Because you have seen me, you have
believed:
blessed are those who have not seen and yet believe" -- John
20:29

What sort of confirmation of his existence would you need to
believe?


 

offline electro from detroit on 2002-09-05 21:14 [#00380910]
Points: 2880 Status: Regular



i believe that there is a god and a creator
he doesnt have to be the father,son,holy spirit god...he
doesnt belong to any religeous sector
god is just IS
he, she , it exist



 

offline Atop from Texas (United States) on 2002-09-05 21:20 [#00380919]
Points: 400 Status: Regular | Followup to Cabbog: #00380907



Hey dude smoking is bad for you!

and blind faith is as well.

what version of the bible are you reading?

King James'.

who the hell was king James and why do I need his version to
be the right one.

why don't you read the Gospel of Thomas
and then email me and tell me what you think of that because
the new testament has been changed and the Gospel of tThomas
was discovered in Egypt 60
years ago and is a lot more revealing than just saying that
we should have blind
faith!

I've had experiences that give me faith in higher powerS,
and I don't need stupid
brainwashing statements to make me believe, Jesus probably
didn't even say that, what does it say in Matthew's version
in the Oxford english bible,probably something completely
different.

read the Gospel of Thomas and email me,
I want to know what you think about it.

Akkad


 

offline Sido Dyas from a computer on 2002-09-05 21:23 [#00380924]
Points: 8876 Status: Lurker



There is no god
I belive in modern science!!! =)

I fail to understand how people can belive in a excistence
that people in thousands of years have not been able to
proove with any hard facts.
I think religion is more like what a teddybear is to a small
child.
Something to find comfort in or focus on , and im fine with
that.
However, it takes some pretty fucked up shapes and forms all
over the world sometimes.
If you lock back on the European history the church pretty
much fucked up everything. (the moonks where pretty cool
tho)
The only thing they acomplished was some nice buildings imo
and maybe spreading some light and more civilised ways where
there was none (scandinavia hehe!)

is it me or does most christians look really unhappy?
Most of them are pale and wear outdated clothes that makes
them look booring.
Those really hardcore christians doesn't know what
life/living is!!
I think the afroamerican churches are cool tho , theres some
godamn joy innit!!
Gospel is wonderful music (but the lyrics suck ass!!! "oh
lord you are so great blah blah blah..."
I would like to visit one of those churches sometime.


 

offline Sido Dyas from a computer on 2002-09-05 21:40 [#00380958]
Points: 8876 Status: Lurker



I think this god concept was invented because they could not
explain anything at the time (no shit!!) , not even how the
milk is made inside a cow or why there is thunder or rain.
Also religion is a very good power tool!(you don't say?)
I can imagine religion being used to gain power even on the
time of cavemen.
Do this and that or your god will get angry!!!

And Badabing badaboom god created earth!
Its to simple!!!
I think the scientist thru time are real heroes!


 

offline Vit C from Glasgow (United Kingdom) on 2002-09-05 21:42 [#00380959]
Points: 866 Status: Regular | Followup to JAroen: #00380244



I think God is cruel


 

offline Vit C from Glasgow (United Kingdom) on 2002-09-05 21:47 [#00380969]
Points: 866 Status: Regular | Followup to JAroen: #00380244



I don't think there is a grey haired bearded man sitting in
the clouds.
I don't know if I have ever met him, but I did believe once
that I had met his counterpart.
TMIx


 

offline Sido Dyas from a computer on 2002-09-05 21:49 [#00380971]
Points: 8876 Status: Lurker



In the Southpark universe god is a funny little creature
with a tale and strange ears haha!
He has a very powerful voice that don't fit his image.

"is THAT god???"


 

offline evolume from seattle (United States) on 2002-09-05 23:41 [#00381121]
Points: 10965 Status: Regular



one thing i deffinitely don't believe is that i will be
punished for eternity after i die for thinking for myself
and questioning my existence.


 

offline Darth manchu from Cambridge (United Kingdom) on 2002-09-05 23:46 [#00381126]
Points: 1897 Status: Regular



I love the idea of an un-answered question.

How boring would it be if all the questions were answered
and everything had its little reason for exsistance?


 

offline mylittlesister from ...wherever (United Kingdom) on 2002-09-05 23:50 [#00381130]
Points: 8472 Status: Regular



I'm open minded about the whole madness.....

people who 'faithfully believe' seem to shut their eyes and
ears to other views, why are people so narrow minded about
religious beliefs? that's if god/God has anything to do with
religions


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-09-05 23:51 [#00381131]
Points: 21456 Status: Regular



I don't think I'll bother reading any of these


 


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