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Why do you enjoy that musician over there and not that one? How much thinking do you do or is it purely emotional? Recently my bro bought a superb rendition of selected Jean-Baptiste Lully pieces and was playing it while a cousin was over to stay. As soon as he (the cousin) heard it he exclaimed that he couldn't stand Lully's compositions or, in fact, any baroque music due to it's structural simplicity. Now I'm not trying to criticise his mental process here but it's in complete contradiction to the way in which I listen to music. I tend not to analyse (at least not consciously) the music I listen to (maybe I should). So regardless of the complexity of a particular piece, as long as a sufficient emotional response is provoked I will classify the composition as 'good music'. His opinion seems to contradicts the way in which HE listens to music because he's a fan of Muse which, from the few times I've borrowed their albums off friends, seem to be pretty simple and fairly un-original to my taste. I guess I'm basically intrigued about how much analysis (structural and otherwise) goes into people's listening process. Opinions? Hmm? 'Night |
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I don't analyze music at all.....except when I trie to make my own tracks, and need some INSPIRATION from other ARTISTS |
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"any baroque music due to it's structural simplicity" Baroque music can get very complicated if you analyse it in a vertical way(harmony, fuga)... |
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in first instance, I listen to music and react. so, emotional. but after that, I try to explain what I like or dislike in a rational way. I'm a student at a dramaschool and study writing. we read a lot to each other and we have to give well defined criticism. when people post tracks on this mb, I'll try to give them more than "liked it" or "hated it", both don't really help someone, imo. |
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I like to analyse Bach sheet music, and then listen to it. The cousin is nothing but an ignorant fool. |
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it depends on what I'm listening to... with electronic music I often analyze the sounds that are being used, with bands I usually just let the lyrics tell me what the song is about, and i guess I analyze the music a little bit too, but less than electronic music. |
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i have to say my response to music is purely EMOTIONAL. sometimes thats good.....sometimes bad. the good is that if i hear a song and i like it the FIRST time i listen....i immediately wanna hear it again/and or BUY it as soon as i can. the bad is that sometimes that works against me. i could be in NOT the appropriate mood to hear a track and if thats the case i may immediately decide i don't like it, and only days, weeks, months later i am convinced to listen again and rethink my decision. sometimes i find that i was too hasty. ehehe (ie. autechre) anyway....i don't read music....i'm not musically inclined(although i've always wanted to play the PIANO) so i don't analyze music in that way. it does seem rather snobbish that your cousin see's music that way. what does it matter really, what the structure is, IF it's a beautiful, haunting, etc., piece? anyhow....different strokes! =o) |
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It depends on the music. Sometimes I really pay attention to the sounds and look for musical ability but sometimes I just want something that is fun to listen to. It is rare that a musician can do both |
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when i listen to music..i tend to be attracted to the mood and atmosphere..and the emotional response it gives me.. i usually dont notice little technical details until ive listened to it many times... its kinda the same thing with movies..it seems a lot of people pick certain things out much more quickly than i do..it almost makes me feel naive..when someone starts talking about all these flaws a movie may have that i didnt really notice |
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music is like a language for example... you hear someone speaking italian, and it sounds beautiful, and you can make out emotions, and appriciate it, but if acctually learn how to speak it, then it takes on a whole differnt perspective. it still sounds beautiful, but you are truely understanding it then. that said, there is nothing wrong with just wanting to listen |
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I think some forms of music, and also movies, can be so overanalysed, that their essence is lost |
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analyse music about 8 kilograms worth. |
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Agreed |
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guilty as charged I analyze the fuck out of anything I hear, watch, read to a fault..my wife hates my habit so much so that she threatens not buying music or going to movies with me..I am pest like that..might be a reason that usually melody is the last thing to appeal to me in a musical piece..I just deconstruct the pattern of notes, chords, scales etc.. and move on the other parts that arent that easy to dislodge.... |
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It's not easy to analyze chopin for me at least |
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the best music doesnt allow you to analyse it--because the expressive impact is too distracting |
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http://www.r2droidfactory.com/ |
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i don't know anything about instruments, musical structures and all that... i like multi-layered music, and when i try to analyse music i do it with the lyrics... ('the downward spiral' by NIN, for example; analysing each track, each step of the spiral... this one is excellent and very interesting to analyse — i had found a 6-page dissertation about it :)) |
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Yes too true. |
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Some of my favourite music is technically very simple, but I love it. I do analise music, but more in disecting it into it's components and trying to see how it was achived. marlowe is right though, its often better to just listen. Dancing has to be the best way to appreciate music eh? |
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/me can't dance :( not that that's ever stopped me mind you... |
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Same here. If you count jumping up and down and screaming as dancing, i'm fucking John Travolta |
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That looks a bit wrong dunnit?! |
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Hmm peculiar tastes you've got there ;) |
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I used to over-analize music,still do to a point.I used to listen to every beat,every little note,how it was put together,how complicated it is,why certain bits go brilliantly together,pretty much everything.But only with music I emotionally loved.Sometimes you just have to sit back,relax,and enjoy the music.When I had a psychologist,she wanted me to explain more on this,but it`s too difficult to explain why,I have to know everything,and I do tend to love music even more when I analize it.I dont do this with just music,I do it to myself,other people,everything.I guess it just depends on the persons mentality. |
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I think i agree with LeCoeur on the importance of emotion (sometimes i listen the relatively shitty music like the Fun Lovin' Criminals' "Love Unlimited "Barry White blah blah blah on a loop all day!). However I do believe in certain universal canons of rhythm and harmony that are always considered in composition. People might say Steve Reich may have nothing to do with Schubert for example: but the mere fact of transgressing a pre established rule is a way of interpreting it. Therefore, in music, nothing is forgotten... Nothing is totally original in the sense that it does not relate in some sense to what preceded it. Just compare Music to a tower of Babel where the workers have finally devised a way to comprehend eachother, despite the diversity of languages! |
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I don't really analyze music but when I hear sounds in a song that I can make myself easily its less exciting to listen to it. Thats why I prefer mostly experimental electronic music. |
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I don't really analyze music but when I hear sounds in a song that I can make myself easily its less exciting to listen to it. Thats why I prefer mostly experimental electronic music. |
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I don't really analyze music but when I hear sounds in a song that I can make myself easily its less exciting to listen to it. Thats why I prefer mostly experimental electronic music. |
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We got that... We got that... We got that... |
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I don't really analyze music but when I hear sounds in a song that I can make myself easily its less exciting to listen to it. Thats why I prefer mostly experimental electronic music. |
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ARGGGGGGGGGGGGGH |
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oups, sorry, I didn't know that the page was limited to 25 posts., I'm a newbie. |
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that's true. but if the melody is something i couldn't possibly have thought up myself, that changes things. that's what i like about isan. i tend to analyze things, but that usually wrecks the track for me. i like it when i don't understand how a song is made. when i listened to mellon collie and the infinite sadness for the first coupla times i thought i'd never be able to play those songs, but when i figured them out by myself, the album lost its myth to me.. that's what i like about the newer autechre tracks, how the h*ll did they do that? |
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hehe,dont worry im sure everyones done that.:D |
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I don't see why thinking that one can "technically" recreate a track/a sound should devalue music... The artists came up with it first... |
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If I started thinking about some of the stuff I listen to is structured/composed I'd be lost ! I'm mean take late autechre track. How the feck do they do that ?? (Ok I'm sure some of you can answer that !) |
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It takes away some of the "magic", its like knowing that Santas Clause is just your uncle. :) i.e.: Its possible to make the high frequency that you hear at the end of Windowlicker with Coagula Light (a freeware) very easily. |
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I'm a guitarist, and that's the reason I hate most rock music, cause it's all so boring and unoriginal, I like to listen to something that I can't do, when I can, it just sucks. Most rock acts come up with crap. Jazz, blues and some old schoolers (zeppelin, hendrix etc etc) are good, cause they wrote original, good stuff, but these days, ug, nothing. I like to make electronic tunes, but I suck at it, so that's why I mostly listen to electronic music, cause I can't make better tunes than most artists. Quite intrigued by the whole gantz graf thing myself.... |
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Depends on the type of music and the situation I'm listening to it in. If I'm actively listening (just sitting there listening, not doing anyhting else) I tend to analyse more frequently than if I'm doing some work/driving with the music on in the background. I also tend to analyse things like BoC & AT more than dance/commercial music. I listened to BoC at really loud volume at the weekend and heard loads of new elements to tracks that I'd never noticed before. |
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