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This is from BBC click online Peer to peer file sharing has become the music industry's worst nightmare since the spectre of home taping of the 1970's. Here are some figures to ponder, in case you are in any doubt as to the scale of the problem: last year, approximately 99% of songs available online were unauthorised; in May 2002 there were around three million users and half a billion files available for copying at any one time on all of the peer-to-peer services worldwide, and that number is shooting up all the time. Small wonder then that recording and music industries are trying to stem the flow by developing a series of hi-tech measures to combat the pirates: Watermarking: This embeds a digital fingerprint into the audio data. It’s a bit like a digital lock being put into music, and gives content owners a way to identify their music tracks. Disguising viruses as MP3s: These files look like songs or movie clips but can actually damage your computer files once they're downloaded. Spoofing: Some record labels admit they're flooding popular services like Morpheus, Kazaa and Grokster with thousands of decoy music files that look identical to a sought-after song, but are filled with long minutes of silence, or 30-second loops of a song's chorus. Take downs: Working with ISP's, the industry hope to remove illegal file sharing servers more on this later. This has already met with some success, the record industry has already taken down more than 1000 peer to peer severs last year. And there are more tricks set to come. The future top ten copyright technologies could include: Scrambling search queries. Adding attachments to compressed music files to greatly increase download time. Interdiction, in which a copyright owner floods a file swapper with false requests so that downloads can't get through. Redirection, in which a file swapper might be pointed to a site that doesn't actually have the files they're looking for. And the industry may soon have the force of the US government be |
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And the industry may soon have the force of the US government behind it. Last month, a bill was introduced which would help protect copyright owners who use hi-tech attacks to stop file trading. It stops short of giving them the right to damage file-swappers' computers or spread viruses, but file-swapping advocates claim this could open the door for copyright holders to declare 'cyber warfare' on consumers around the world. |
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The class war has moved to yet another terrain comrades. We must organise for victory! |
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"Disguising viruses as MP3s" nasty.. |
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Seriously, that's fucking evil |
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da comrade jonsey.. so do I get the post of the (dis)information minister in our new republik?? more here |
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yes, well, when they start to do that, I think they can expect a heavy backlash from the 'hacking community'... :) |
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haha, people will really be motivated to buy CDs this way...and respect the law... muhahaha |
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Yep. I can't really see people not reacting in a negative way (boycotting labels, hactivism, website defacement etc.) |
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Fortunately it's not all bad news - some Telcos have decided to fight the RIAA. Verizon generally sucks, but kudos to them for not being pushed around by the RIAA. |
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more than 1000 p2p serv's ? jeezus.... mp3 viruses may be the right way.. |
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they should all piss off and make cds cheaper |
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we all know that new artists and local bands cds have the price of $3.99 that is $3.99 and make money out of it why charge me $13.99 or $15.99 and sometimes $18.99 that is stealing from people i have no sympathy for the record industry they made alot of money and they are getting what they deserve just get a good software to monitor viruses and enjoy downloading |
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Bang on. Costs should come down from the mass production of CDs etc., not go up. Record labels take the piss. |
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Fraunhofer just introduced new licensing for their MP3 patent this week, it used to be free for a company to make a mp3 player, now they want $.75 for each player sold/given away, like Winamp or Sonique. The immediate reaction to this was for a couple of companies to remove mp3 support from their decoding software in favour of .ogg vorbis support. If Fraunhofer persist in this license/royalty charge then a lot of companies will stop making mp3 playing software. It may not be the RIAA that finally kills mp3's, it may be the inventors of the algorithm themselves which do the deed. |
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you know if you go for those sites that sell you the song and you download it, it is not any cheaper althogh you dont get a case or the book...what the hell |
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Someone will make an open source format soon or at least tweak the MP3 one enough for it to be legally seen as "different". |
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Fuck the record industry. $.02 |
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Already been done ... Ogg Vorbis Patent free and in the public domain. Winamp plays it now. Expect it to get popular in the next few years. |
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No matter what digital copy protection schemes are implemented, the hacker community will always find a way to get around them. Simple as that. |
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$.02 Nice touch, I haven't seen that before. |
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i'm just gonna stop listening to music and move to the country and listen to the sounds of nature.... |
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Not surprisingly, the RIAA was hacked today. It's currently offline. Someone was kind enough to make a [nelson]Ha ha![/nelson] |
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hahaha thats very weird 'mp3 viruses' its too much of a threat to be real. all the mp3 viruses will be the Britney Spears pop top 40 charts shit anyways.... |
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It wouldn't be too hard for someone to write a program to delete everything on your hard drive named *metallica*.mp3. Then just name it "Metallica - Shove This Up Your Ass.mp3.vbs" to masquerade as an mp3 file and when someone runs it - bye bye mp3s. Anti-virus programs don't protect against that. I can see a lot of novice computer users being hit by something like that. |
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let them delete metallica, let them delete eminem, will they delete precenphix or any other unsigned artist? will they even delete bernhard gunter or other lesser known artists? lets be honest, there's too much music in the world to ban all of it, i mean, come on, get real. let them delete the top 40 bullshit, i have no problem with that. |
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I see your point, but of course something like this could (by accident or design) delete all your mp3s. At least one virus was already designed to do this. |
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well, then, we might as well make internet terrorism. if they make a virus that wipes out all our mp3s, might as well make a virus that wipes out files for...lets say..a government thing...? |
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we should strike back. |
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Yes, it is time for a p2p users' intifada! (This messageboard is now being monitored by US military intelligence as a result of my using that word) |
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I don't bother with mp3 downloading from p2p.....just porn! So of course I couldn't give a shit, however taking the prices of CD's up is just shite. |
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if warp & rephlex actually got their act together and made their music available TO BUY i wouldn't have to download all of it, would i? |
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I think that the whole record industry big whigs just dont get it. For instance, take matador, independant label, each artist on the raster has 1 free mp3 to download. I listen to the mp3, if i like it, i buy the album. If i dont, i dont. The fall in sales comes from people not buying the stuff they hate. Plus, the virus thing is just completely irresponsible, i mean, if the RIAA can get away with it, why cant some hacker get away with bringing down networks and trashing my computer? My 2 cents there. |
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why higher the price of cds, why not lower it so people would buy it instead of download it. how stupid are these fucking idiots. |
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Looks like the RIAA is making it's last desperate moves, they know it's too late for them. No, what really worries me is that the government is actually thinking about giving them hacking-rights, that's just insane. Shows how much influence the industry has on the government I think it should be like this: download all you want and if you like it, then send some money directly to the artists to show your appreciation. The old system has had it's longest time. BTW: I haven't found any bogus files yet |
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I'm willing to give up downloading mp3's sure. But there has to be some kind of compensation, I mean come on! 20 euros for a cd, that's way too much. I'll consider giving up the whole mp3 thing if those damn record companies would charge 10 euros instead of 20! |
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hmm, mp3 viruses are total bullshit because a mp3 decoder is not capable of running scripts or executing code inside mp3's.........who came up with this shit? |
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They are certainly possible if there is a flaw in the decoder. Winmap had one of these a little while ago. It's not likely to happen but if it occurs in a popular player like WMP or Winamp it wouldn't be impossible for a "special" mp3 to cause a fair bit of mischief. |
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fuck that. downloading is theft. *braces himself for hate posts* |
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Er, it hasn't been that long ago that we thrashed that argument out... "theft" is a loaded word. It usually means intent to deprive someone of money or property. Getting a digital copy of something under copyright without paying is "copyright violation." I know it's a small thing but the semantics are important. |
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mp3s help people get into artists (i wouldn't own any autechre albums if i had downloaded any) the rise of mp3 sharing is relative to the price of cds this mp3/virus thing sounds pretty illegal. |
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"mp3s help people get into artists (i wouldn't own any autechre albums if i had downloaded any) " this should probably be: mp3s help people get into artists (i wouldn't own any autechre albums if i hadn't downloaded any of their mp3s) |
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doesn anybody know the official stand of companies that concern us..Warp/Rephlex/nu/skam etc on this? |
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I still wanna know why libraries are considered moral/ nobody is concerned about their mass sharing (probably because less people care about books, heh heh) you have to pay for videogame rentals... maybe it had something to do with making sure knowledge had no price, very good thing |
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Money is the downfall of humanity. |
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I agree with roygbiv on this one. |
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GODDAMN RICH ASS BOYBAND BUTTFUCKING FUCKERS WITH THERE FUCKING FAST CARS DRUGS AND THE FUCKING RAP STARS W/ THEIR FUCKING "ICE" FUCKING MORONS WHO COULDN'T PLAY A FUCKING PIANO NO MATTER HOW HARD THEY TRY FUCKING MAKING IT DIFFICULT FOR THE REST OF US REAL ARTISTS TO PROMOTE OUR OWN CREATIVITY SO THEY CAN MARKET THEIR "PRODUCT" ... i'm done for the moment but i'll probably have more to say later... VIVA LA RESISTANCE |
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YOU RULE DIEMAX, YOU HIT IT RIGHT ON THE SPOT MAN! |
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The term 'artist' is thrown around rather loosely these days. |
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Overpriced CDs is theft |
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