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offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-07-07 02:44 [#00299769]
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you know, you shouldnt be into music for an image... and im
not... but i think we're just lucky to be into a genre thats
so fucking cool. I mean, its got this underground thing goin
on... so its kind of mysterious... it is trippy, with all
the electronic references... (artowkr like autechres is one
example) and the whole idea of creating music on a computor,
with equipment... very personalized.

I just love the whole image/culture of it all...

but perhaps i just love it, because i love the music.


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-07-07 02:49 [#00299772]
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*artwork

man... fucked that one up!


 

offline Dozier from United States on 2002-07-07 02:59 [#00299780]
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I definitely love the music, and I like the
underground-ness, but at times it's frustrating, especially
for us not in the UK. I don't know another single person
that likes this music like I do (that I know in person),
there are no shows or clubs to go to around here to listen
to it, etc..

It's really a catch-22, because I wouldn't want it to get
mainstream either. Oh well.


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-07-07 03:03 [#00299781]
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well yeah...

but i like the undergroundness... having to work to find a
good record... not having it stocked everywhere...

but mainly the idea of doin it yourself... or just one other
person. I dont know...

i dont think im making sense... at least not getting exactly
what i mean across..


 

offline Dozier from United States on 2002-07-07 03:07 [#00299784]
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I agreed wholeheartedly with everything you've said. I just
wanted to add that at times the very things that've made it
cool for me have also made it frustrating.


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-07-07 03:20 [#00299789]
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i love electronic music and other music for all the right
reasons


 

offline mylittlesister from ...wherever (United Kingdom) on 2002-07-07 03:21 [#00299790]
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I dont think I'm really in the 'culture' of it, as i like
lots of different music and electronica is just one of the
many, so its quite weird for me. I'm sure others are like
this.

Although saying that, the music that I've bought lately has
mostly been electronica - maybe I HAVE been infected :-O
oh dear, that will never do!

I'd best go buy the rest of the nofx albums, i need to get
snow patrol too, hopefully they will save me! woo, posting
at 3:22 in the morning - can't beat the feeling......


 

offline deadwhitespoon from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-07-07 03:44 [#00299806]
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Is there really a sub-culture for electronic music?
Is it really that small?
What defines electronic music? N'Sync is almost 100%
electronic. So is Enya. So is EuroDance and nineinchnails
and the sound track to Hard To Kill and the laundry soap
jingle and... If you're refering to "rave music"/"techno"
you're still talking about music that doesn't have any
cohesive demographic of listeners. I think they are a thin
and scattered group of people who hunt down and aquire the
music on an individual self-interest level I think the group
of fans on this mb are more connected by their interest in
expressing themselves over the internet than the music they
listen to.
I hate squarepusher.
I love Plaid.
They toured together (and sqrpshr couldn't get across the
boarder...ha!)
What does that say about the cohesiveness of even lable
mates?


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-07-07 04:14 [#00299843]
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i love how everyone gets all detailed about general
statements.

of course it is subject to differences... but i mean over
all... electronic music as a whole.

there is a subculture... i belive there is very much.

yeah nsync is all electronic you smart ass... dont try and
be clever.. you know damn well what i was talking about


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-07-07 04:15 [#00299847]
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and i do listen to other types of music... but i would
definatly say im a electronic music hardcore fan

i love it


 

offline deadwhitespoon from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-07-07 04:16 [#00299850]
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I was being serious.
What would you describe as elements of "electronic music
culture"?
I mean apart from the fact that we all have the same or
similar CDs in our collection?


 

offline mylittlesister from ...wherever (United Kingdom) on 2002-07-07 04:20 [#00299856]
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i dunno what music i like most....

I know how it feels to make a general statement and then
watch as it is reduced to nothing, through a detailed
analysis.


 

offline Amonbrune from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-07-07 04:21 [#00299858]
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I love the electronica sub genre thing going on here with
IDM or whathaveyou. NO OTHER...and I repeat NO OTHER type
of music has artwork as sophisticated and utterly unique as
ours. You see some skanky hip hop cover with all the guys
on it all folding their arms with the group name
'spraypainted' on the front? boy thats really creative!

We have Designer's Rep. which I really like by the way
wether you guys think the style is old or not. and just the
music itself is nice. not too mention some of the sweetest
ever haircuts all our fav guys have! boy some have sweet
hair cuts....


 

offline Amonbrune from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-07-07 04:22 [#00299859]
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Art describes / defines the culture. Music describes the
culture. Rave and IDM...two different cultures. Two
different styles of art. Two wholely different attitudes
(usually).


 

offline deadwhitespoon from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-07-07 04:23 [#00299860]
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Okay.
Album desing is far superior in this genre. From sleek to
swank it's all there (though I think Funkstrong are pushing
it a little far...) Reminds me of old New Order and Factory
graphics are on a comeback!


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-07-07 04:24 [#00299861]
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its kind of an image...

you dont see cheerleaders or jocks listening to electronic
music (for the most part)

the "image" im talking about... is kinda like... you know
bums kinda.. haha... like hooded sweaters... beanies... etc
(GENERALIZATION I KNOW)

i like that.

and the images associated with electronic music... computor
images, or surreal images

you cant tell me you have absolutly no visual perception of
electronic music.

the look of a stage covered in nothing but keyboards and
wires.... thats a wonderful site

home studios with all sorts of gear...

this is what im talking about

(again... im GENERALIZATIONS)


 

offline Amonbrune from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-07-07 04:25 [#00299862]
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if thats good than good

*doesn't know what those two look like*


 

offline deadwhitespoon from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-07-07 04:25 [#00299863]
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still related to our CD collections.
Ask me about the haircuts in 5 - 10 years. Remember Duran
Duran?


 

offline Amonbrune from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-07-07 04:27 [#00299868]
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You know what I hate? I mean I LOATHE this so much.

Lady from some pop band "you gotta do your own thing. gotta
like what you like"

o.o

uhh...if you 'gotta do your own thing' than why are you
making music everyone ELSE is making? That's just so wrong.
Thats whats confusing the young kids of today! do your own
thing but follow the crowd.

wha..?

o.o


 

offline Amonbrune from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-07-07 04:28 [#00299869]
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LOL @ Deadwhitespoon.

Sean's haircut will never go out of style...NEVER


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-07-07 04:30 [#00299872]
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well... not to be completely evil here... but I cant say i
agree 100%

some people are just raised with pop music.. and dont even
know that other types of music exists... so making pop music
is thier dream... its possible it connects with them
emotionally...

but yeah, for the most part pop is evil and is just people
trying to be cool etc


 

offline deadwhitespoon from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-07-07 04:38 [#00299881]
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totally...

I guess thats my point (if I have one) is that I see culture
spreading two different ways:
1) a group of all-alikes follow what the machine says. They
all dress the same buy the same group of brands, shop in the
same malls, watch the same tv shows, have the same colour
scheme. When the machine says "Green is out, Orange is in"
they all jum at the same time
2) a group of only-slightly-alikes all think for themselves,
but communicate together in a common exchange of ideas. One
group member discovers this old bakery with the best
olive-bread and they all try it. Most like it, but some
don't and that's cool cause the shop also has this great
walnut bread that they like too. One group member checks out
this FourTet album and loves it. Plays it for his friends
and some love it, some like it, some don't quite get it, but
ask him about his Brian Eno album.

The first group has their culture designed for them. They
lose the ability to think and choose and to participate in
their own world.

The second group think for themselves and develop their own
personal micro-cultures. In groups you would never guess
that they would have similar tastes in anything because they
differ in so many small and insignificant ways.

Electronic music is very much like this. Every one has their
own taste, and the genre is so rich in texture and dynamic
that it's hard to compare Ae to Boc to DjShadow to the
Funk_Master. They're all so completely different and so are
we.

[sorry 'bout the essay there, too much gasoline get's my
fingers shakin']


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-07-07 04:41 [#00299884]
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"it's hard to compare Ae to Boc to DjShadow"

yes... but its still in its own kind of subculture... there
is on a whole... common characteristics... of course they
are different... but again, i was talking about electronic
music as a whole.

there are even more subcultures of electronic music...


 

offline deadwhitespoon from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-07-07 04:45 [#00299894]
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It's reasuring to connect actively like that, but everything
you say could be said about the indie rock scene. They're
just as esoteric and snobbish as (we) are, and they all have
their own emo speak and cool band names that no one else
knows and secret little mbs with messages about how cool
their music is and how they are never understod by anyone
outside of their own little culture...but are the Pixies
cooler than the Replacements are cooler than Blsck Rebel
Motorcycle Club are cooler than titsworth?

perhaps they just love it because they love the music.


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-07-07 04:47 [#00299898]
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true...

but dammit why couldnt my statement jut be taken simply and
innocently

i love electronic music
i love the image that I beleive goes with it
i love the ideals and concepts

all selfmade i suppose... i thought there would be others
here that understood...


 

offline Amonbrune from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-07-07 04:47 [#00299900]
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Deadwhite: if its okay with you, could i use your post to
show my friends to explain to them about electronica / pop?
that was a great post. so true


 

offline deadwhitespoon from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-07-07 04:52 [#00299909]
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'course, Amon'.

And, actually Zeus, Electronic music kicks ass and cooks
your brain more than any other music!!! Afx kicks Wagners
wimpy German ass all over the centuries!

I was just grasping for defining elements that bind us all
together in this phreaky zone.

'peace'


 


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