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rate your significance/importance of existence
 

hevquip from an egren's coffee shop on 2001-07-13 17:08 [#00014939]



on a scale of one to ten, rate your significance/ importance
of existence

then, answer this question: if i was to walk up to you and
place a gun to your head telling you that i'm going to
scatter your brains about when i pull the trigger, would you
be able to give me three reasons as to why i should not? i
expect the three reason to be in relation with what your
contributions are as a living being based on your
significance/ importance of existence.


 

cample from afxs dusters on 2001-07-13 17:13 [#00014940]



well probably not no, i'd be slightly distracted by the
faeces that was running down my trouser leg. if you're gonna
get up to those shennagins why not just loose the gun??


 

cample from afxs dusters on 2001-07-13 17:16 [#00014942]



aaah i see-the gun was all part of the process. sorry. well
i'd say that i'm pretty attached to living & having fun and
multiple that by three. and if that wasn't good enough well,
im sorry but id have to tell you to just kiss it.


 

dingle berry from on a small plastic chair breathing fire on 2001-07-13 17:27 [#00014944]



I would have turned you into a cat meat icepop with my
magical ninjutsu skills way before you had reached for your
holster sonny!
and as for rating my magnificance thrice
check my knighthood, obe and masters degree in astro
physics! bullah!


 

hevquip from an egren's coffee shop on 2001-07-13 17:37 [#00014949]



i would pull the trigger for both of you so far. i would not
care about your attachment to life. i would reply " i dont
care. you will die anyways. what should keep me from
speeding up the process? why do you deserve or belong to be
here?"


 

cample from afxs dusters on 2001-07-13 17:37 [#00014950]



erm....ok. maybe you should go to your nearest bathroom &
have a quiet word with yourself. still, i admire you ability
to turn me into catpopsicles or whatever. have you thought
of going on jim davidsons 'generation game'?


 

cample from afxs dusters on 2001-07-13 17:39 [#00014952]



mmmmnnnn. do you pair get out much?


 

cample from afxs dusters on 2001-07-13 17:40 [#00014953]



look-can't we just talk about it?


 

cample from afxs dusters on 2001-07-13 17:40 [#00014954]



jesus!! no!! put down..


 

cample from afxs dusters on 2001-07-13 17:40 [#00014955]



the


 

cample from afxs dusters on 2001-07-13 17:41 [#00014956]



gun!!


 

cample from afxs dusters on 2001-07-13 17:41 [#00014957]



i so..


 

cample from afxs dusters on 2001-07-13 17:41 [#00014958]



want


 

cample from afxs dusters on 2001-07-13 17:41 [#00014959]



to li


 

cample from afxs dusters on 2001-07-13 17:41 [#00014960]



ve


 

cample from afxs dusters on 2001-07-13 17:41 [#00014961]



!


 

Glitch from New Zealand on 2001-07-13 17:42 [#00014962]



No one has that sort of right sorry Hevquip; while even I
can look at people and marvel at their pathetic lives, I
still have no right to do anysuch thing, If I had to give a
rating for myself itd be about 7/10 and my reasons would be
1. I am in the pursuit to better understanding of myself and
the situation of existence 2. No one is of real value when
it all comes down to it, and 3. Id say survival of the
fittest and bludgeon you to death sooner than run away.


 

cample from afxs dusters on 2001-07-13 17:44 [#00014963]



ooh. i see. you dont own a gun.anyway...o fuck i'm getting
sucked into this ...& i dont want to go...but...now just
maybe think alittle about this....why should anyone have to
justify their existence to anyone else no matter what the
duress? isnt that like, kinda facist ? d'y know what i mean?


 

cample from afxs dusters on 2001-07-13 17:45 [#00014964]



fucks sake! why on earth would you want to bludgeon someone
to death just cause of who they are??


 

cample from afxs dusters on 2001-07-13 17:47 [#00014966]



mind you- look at phil collins!!hes a right cunt isnt he?


 

hevquip from an egren's coffee shop on 2001-07-13 17:48 [#00014967]



so far glitch remains alive. i believe the reasons he gave
me are appropriate and acceptable. he has a goal to achieve.
the issue however is not whether or not i have the right to
shoot someone, but whether or not someone has earned there
place on this earth and can keep it.


 

Glitch from New Zealand on 2001-07-13 17:49 [#00014968]



read what I wrote !!!

Id RATHER bludgeon him to death than let him Judge and
possibly kill me.


 

hevquip from an egren's coffee shop on 2001-07-13 17:50 [#00014970]



camples getting the hang of this too. i might smack you with
the gun and tell you to go do something important now.


 

Chimp Systems from Flat Mountain on 2001-07-13 17:52 [#00014971]



I would tell that my existence is justified because I am
totally bullet-proof, and they are doing tests on me to see
how they can save lives in the war-torn Middle East. Either
way, I'm on a winner.


 

hevquip from an egren's coffee shop on 2001-07-13 17:52 [#00014972]



then lets forget that i have a gun, or that it's even up to
me. if tomorrow you knew that you would cease to exist, what
would you do or have to show that you should remain here?


 

Chimp Systems from Flat Mountain on 2001-07-13 17:56 [#00014973]



Because if I die, who's going to drive this bus?


 

hevquip from an egren's coffee shop on 2001-07-13 17:57 [#00014974]



chimp systems is putting his existence towards a good cause,
so he's redeemed. i would like to test his bullet proof-ness
though...but what makes saving the lives of those in the
middle east worth it?


 

Chimp Systems from Flat Mountain on 2001-07-13 18:00 [#00014975]



erm... becaause they're human? I've got to go the cinema.
Now. Play nice in here.

And I AM bulletproof. Watch - BANG!! See?


 

Glitch from New Zealand on 2001-07-13 18:01 [#00014976]



these strange debates are based on Ethics and the ability to
determine worthiness, which no one person has been able to
do, let alone agree on with others, this thread may as well
die, before we start debates into why Adolf Hitler was/wasnt
onto a good thing


 

hevquip from an egren's coffee shop on 2001-07-13 18:02 [#00014977]



yes they are human. human life (particularly for them) is
full of struggle, pain, hate, loss, and confusion. so
wouldn't i be doing them a favor if i killed them all?


 

Chimp Systems from Flat Mountain on 2001-07-13 18:03 [#00014978]



Are you experiencing a period of angst perchance? Stay off
the weed man. It'll bring out the demons in yer.


 

Glitch from New Zealand on 2001-07-13 18:06 [#00014979]



No you wouldnt Hevquip, I personally believe that pain is a
good thing and that Id still want to live my life even if
the balence of bad times out weighed the good 99 to 1


 

hevquip from an egren's coffee shop on 2001-07-13 18:07 [#00014980]



i'm not in a period of angst, but i think a lot of people
cant verify the purpose their existence backed up with good
reasons or understand what they are to be doing with the
time that they have while they are here.


 

mariah from danmark on 2001-07-13 18:19 [#00014982]



No-one is more important than another. The meek shall
inherit the earth. I am not important but I have repent my
sins and shall be rewarded in heaven. Pull your trigger and
suffer in hell.


 

Glitch from New Zealand on 2001-07-13 18:32 [#00014984]



oh for fucks sake..

the meek shall rot in the earth, while the strong of mind
are expelled into the cosmic nothingness.


 

hevquip from an egren's coffee shop on 2001-07-13 18:38 [#00014985]



i dont much like your opinion mariah. i do not believe in
the god, nor do i like the church. i believ that religion
exists because people are afraid of their mortality. they
invent concepts to trick themselves into thinking that they
will have something to look forward to because they do not
want to acknowledge the fact that they are frail little
people who only get one chance at living. i do not think
that it is the churchs place to tell us what is right or
wrong and try to enforce it because i think that they are
too biased and closed minded. i do not believe in god
because i do not think someone should judge us on how we
live the way he does or why one individual wields as much
power and significance as he does. the god and devil
concepts are for the weak. all things good are the result of
gods doing, all things bad are the result of the devils
doing. where is the responsibiltiy in that? why is one not
given control of their own life? i believe heaven and hell
are concepts the church made up so people would go to mass.
without heaven and hell, no one would go because they
wouldn't be tricked into thinking that there is something
waiting for them in the end. people can make it through life
without god.


 

Glitch from New Zealand on 2001-07-13 18:48 [#00014986]



I agree with alot of that Hevquip, but having just writen
what you did, dont you see the similarities between the idea
of "God" and the role you were playing ?


 

hevquip from an egren's coffee shop on 2001-07-13 20:03 [#00014993]



yes, although my purpose was not to decide who should live
or die, but to make one ponder the
signifacance/importance/utility of existence. the gun would
act like a catalyst to extract an answer from someone who
usually does not think of such things often.


 

hevquip from an egren's coffee shop on 2001-07-13 20:05 [#00014994]



the answers to the my question would be much more succint
(sic?) if it meant the possibilty of death.


 

CHR15TPUNCH3R from IL on 2001-07-13 21:01 [#00015003]



Someone watched Fight Club for the first time.
=P


 

hevquip from an egren's coffee shop on 2001-07-13 21:42 [#00015005]



yeah...i realized that there was that correlation, but i
didn't borrow it from the movie. i'm not really going for
the 'live you life to the fullest' message though, i'm more
interested if one can come up with and understand their
reason for existing and what affect it has on the world. if
ones existence would be wiped out tomorrow, would they be
able to give a good reason as to why it should not? that's
what i'm looking for.


 

thanksomuch from over here on 2001-07-14 07:32 [#00015052]



hevquip's significance: 1 (being the lowest)

that that is all...


 

m....MwMw wwW(m M m)Www wMwM....m on 2001-07-14 08:05 [#00015057]



You have some interesting scary ideas brewing. You feel that
there is no reason for human existance (I might expand this
to include no reason for the existence of LIFE period, but
we're all humans here, unless you are an ostriche that has
learned to communicate in english.) There doesn't really
have to be meaning, exactly. Define meaning. Actions simply
take place and are stimuli for more actions. Life, however
we define it, is only a manifestation of energy, the actions
that have been taking place, all catalyzed by the first
action according to theory, the big bang. I suppose nearly
all the energy that fuels earth life is from the sun. The
first action that created the sun. It's a form of "life"
itself, and it only existests because energy cannot be
destroyed but can only change form. You fear death, for good
reason I suppose, I'm not necessarily one to say. We are
both going to die, no matter what. If you pulled the
trigger, you'd die no more than a hundred years later too
(given plenty of play room, in case you are 1 year old and
live for 100 years.) People would like to think they are
significant in some way. I'm not one to say. I am merely a
person too, and must confront death and my own significance
like everyone else.


 

m....MwMw wwW(m M m)Www wMwM....m on 2001-07-14 08:11 [#00015058]



I read "sex and the orgins of death". When single cells
existed, death didn't really exist. A parent cell simply
divided resulting in to almost completely identical copies.
When sexual reproduction started though, the whole purpose
was to combine the traits from 2 individuals in order to
have a more varied gene pool to be a more adaptive life
form. It was now necessary for the old phenotypes/genotypes
to die, to make way for newly mutated ones. Life wouldn't
adapt if they hung around forever.


 

hedtwin from manchester on 2001-07-14 10:49 [#00015073]



I would have made a coin appear from behind your ear, even
though it was really obviously in my hand before i pretended
to find it there, however, i think you would be suitably
impressed and would spare my life.

If you did not, at least i woudl go out with a bang, and
then a thump, and then a sort of trickle.


 

TekN010G from Australia on 2001-07-14 11:43 [#00015083]



My Importance 10:
I am reverred as a god

just not yet


 

mariah from danmark on 2001-07-14 15:08 [#00015090]



I don't believe in such a simple theory of religion as you
proposed earlier either hevquip. But it seems to me that you
are doing exactly what spawned the multitude of religions
that exist today by questioning the reason for our
existence. YOUR WASTING YOUR TIME with such shallow played
out discussions. If you're going to attempt a debate on
something interesting why not try something tangible and
real that actually affects the human race. We are here now
this is all we've got at the moment - everyone is as
important as each other. We may as well try to make the most
of it.


 

od from perth on 2001-07-14 16:47 [#00015098]



id probably say hmm for a bit (his is if i didnt shit myself
straight away) and then id say that i am living an
experimental life. i seek to find out what makes people
react in manners they do. people with no apparent
personalities are quite interesting because you say strange
things to them and watch their faces. they cant thing of
anythign to say. this is not to say i am better than them in
any way...i just am used to that kind of thing.... id be
shot, but
you know what?
after you die...its not like you really miss living.


 

SANTA CLAWS from LAPDANCERLAND on 2001-07-14 18:00 [#00015106]



I`D SAY I`M 11/10. THIS KNOB GOES UP TO ELEVEN!!! MEANING OF
LIFE MY DUNGHATCH!!! COCKS TO THE MEANING OF LIFE! COCKS I
SAY!


 

fleckothegecko from confield on 2001-07-14 22:48 [#00015124]



id mindfuck you. id be like "youre right, my existence
doesnt really matter, but how does blowing my brains out
help you? is it gonna make your life any better? YOU SIR ARE
ACCUSED OF SKULLDUGGERY IN THE NAME OF PANTOLONES! BOW DOWN
BEFORE GARTH THE CATS WARF GOLDEN ONE!"


 


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