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Deal with its quirks and lean into it. |
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there's been too much leaning! people will fall over |
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You ain’t joking! |
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the way to use the 303 is like uli behringer: steal the design, all the mods, then offer it for a price idiots like me can actually swing |
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i was thinking, later: i wonder if it made anyone shit their pants? like: crap, all the punters can have a 303 now. and some of them will be fucking good, and they were no threat when you didn't see "with devilfish and midi" <$4k etc |
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using the 303 as an acoustic bass replacement is like pretending your lego ray gun is just a drill tool, when your parents are looking. |
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nice |
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im glad he did that and that roland made a profit and a name with their fantastic machines before |
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^^ |
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there's of course the roland boutiques check my new favorite channel, ELECTRICOTTOSFUNKFACTORY: |
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nice clickbaity title i loled are there interviews with the people who made the 303(TB), where they are asked about acid? they may be dead by now but they must have been around long enough to hear the acid wave, would love to hear what they thought (apart from being amazed, presumably) |
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i imagine it as being like another boring office day but you make the parameter ranges a bit too big because why not, then oh woops made an entire fucking dance craze/genre/subculture |
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inb4 "yeah but 101/202, any other subtractive synth" - thats another interesting thing, would "acid" have happened without the 303 |
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you have to use the 303 like it's the most dangerous jenga block in the whole stack. keep raisins far away |
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oh hah, I genuinely thought u meant Underground Resistance |
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inb4 "yeah but 101/202, any other subtractive synth" - thats another interesting thing, would "acid" have happened without the 303 i listen to others talking very carefully, but in the end, my ears are the verdict. the whole range comes back, from "huh, that really does matter" to "wow complete toss" i had a real 101 for years, i used a real 202 for a few months a couple years before that; deep enough i was claiming to be one of the top sh-101 players in massachusetts. because i figured it would a solid bet you'd have trouble finding 100 people that even identify with, like "the sh-101 is an Instrument like a violin is an Instrument" and the 101 is a violin and the 202 is a viola and bailing on that metaphor now that i have behringer ms-1 + their yellow maxed out 303, it's kind of like: ok, yes, this is also a capital-I instrument. if you want to scream specs, the filters have totally different character on 101 vs 303, but that misses, like, that the whole is more than the sum of its parts and the wonk 303 filter is an important part, but just a part so you can squeeze passable 303 out of the ms-1 all day long, but that doesn't mean you're getting the experience, the state of mind, the other facilities all in one place laid out as they be so yes. i listen to others talking very carefully, but in the end, my ears are the verdict. the whole range comes back, from "huh, that really does matter" to "wow complete toss" and there's what i feel on the whole argument. having waited, like, almost 20 years to have enough time on them all because moby buys all the drum machines and uses them to prop up the sofa. |
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i have never ever thought "what this track needs is a real 303", but have definitely thought "what this track needs is something that does basically the same as 303".... the only thing that has pissed me off about BOTH is that the cutoff doesn't go up far enough... hence.... it's about tickling bits of the spectrum in particular ways 4 me |
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i wonder how much topend ive lost tbh,and i'm trying to tickle a limb that aint there |
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>>> cutoff doesn't go up far enough never enough squidge |
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i have never ever thought "what this track needs is a real 303", but have definitely thought "what this track needs is something that does basically the same as 303".... the only thing that has pissed me off about BOTH is that the cutoff doesn't go up far enough... hence.... it's about tickling bits of the spectrum in particular ways 4 me i've been listening to real 303, real clone 303, fake 303, fake software 303, real cloned software, etc. and "the medium is the message," what does that mean again? should look it up. that the tools we use, and the interfaces we accept, interface our results and our ideas now i have this uli 9000 thing which is the first time anyone has even let me get close to breathe on a 303, and i was fast over that part, honestly, like, "why, yes, i kind of knew this already, but now i am EXTRA sure: it forces you to work this way, and that was enough of a nudge to build" ...a whole vernacular that has actually become generalized and displaced from the original, somewhat. so, the full circle is thus: rapidly was into AUGH i'm sick of programming this thing. it was quaint like knitting for a few tracks, but now i've had it -- i just want a general repeating shape, ok? i'm not trying to put in a melody with note lengths? so i skip right past that bloody sequencer use all the patch points it has to do the expanded 303 vocabulary that comes from fruityloops and plugins |
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>>>the medium is the message light bulbs let people read books past sundown fetishizing sequencers is the ultimate nonsense.... best sequencer you can have is your brain and it costs fuck all, just a "bit" of practice..... Hah stop me before i get fuck Stock Aitken & Waterman |
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i remember when i used to listen to Orbital ' Brown' LP and think it was all done with turntables .... such a nice memory |
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PS are you from west, mid or east US? |
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underground resistance is a big culprit, yeah |
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Steve, really looks into it. Such a great album He’s from NE area |
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Northeast not Nebraska |
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https://umbromaniiifreakout.bandcamp.com/album/umbromaniii- acid-compilation did i do use it right or wrong? |
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fetishizing sequencers is the ultimate nonsense.... best sequencer you can have is your brain and it costs fuck all, just a "bit" of practice..... shorter version, i guess: when i finally got one i diligently put some time in on the actual 303 sequencer, and it was exactly what i expected, you can see how it shaped the acid sound. then i'm sick of this bloody crap sequencer and on to using the patch points to do what i'm used to in software. i don't really use software at the moment, but i did for years, and that shaped my sound. interfaces shape us as much as we use them to shape the sound still in massachusetts |
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like, oh, even the filter on the 303 shaped the sequencing; it's not just the sequencer itself. unlike the sh101 there are some chunky gaps in the sweet spots you need to learn to dodge, which kind of forces you to stop and think a bit about where you're going when you make a larger jump. |
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