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           EpicMegatrax
             from Greatest Hits on 2022-11-16 00:51 [#02622323]
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 thread motivation ~ that i find myself of an opinion  that... no, this is not the vast majority of people, but i  do feel that it's not just me, to the point where it's worth  saying out loud, maybe -- and i effectively wish to reality  check this by running it by some other people
 
  thread content ~ it was the peak of the 2020  pandemic, the donald causing the worst stock market crash in  history, and i, along with many others, were quite into  "watching things." that i blew through the first season of  westworld; the first two of star trek discovery. then i got  some notice from my ISP warning me that i was torrenting  stuff and threaten threaten etc. and so i thought: "i'll get  back to these once i get a VPN to avoid this horseshit" and,  well, i never did.
 
  since then, everything has balkanized -- this or that is  locked up in disney+ or whatever impossibly confusing tiers  AT&T, no that's only on netflix. so now, people that  actually didn't pirate stuff are also saying "i guess i'll  get back to this later"
 
  and there's this thing known as "buzz" -- like, people  talking about a show, and that gets more people to watch a  show, and that's what makes tentpole series like westworld.  the people who pirate shit often have it all first, and  they're the ones talking about it and building buzz that  gets the people who don't have the marbles to pirate, to buy  it, and, well, this does not work for small indie things,  but for something HBO-tentpole scale, fuckers done right  shot themselves in the foot because i'm not sure if anything  can ever get big as game of thrones did ever again. you  can't pirate it, it's streaming service one of twelve,  people only have the cash for one or two, then others like  me don't see any value in a streaming subscription.
 
  most people will file into marvel comic book movies like  sheep and pay for disney+ even though they pulled the stevie  wonder episode of sesame street, but suspect others have  tapped out 
 
  
         
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           EpicMegatrax
             from Greatest Hits on 2022-11-16 01:13 [#02622324]
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i guess i also think of back when people got in Deep Legal  Shit for w4r3z and Adobe is like "photoshop costs $600 and  you distributed a million copies you caused $600 million in  damages" but then 9/10 of the people pirating photoshop were  14yo kids with $112 to their name and you think they'd just  save up and buy photoshop if they can't pirate it? no,  they'll just use MS Paint and be totally happy with that  because photoshop is some walled off thing they can't touch  and no one knows what they're missing.
 
  so, like, i haven't looked, but i have a strong hunch  that... the balkanization of streaming, increasingly  aggressive policing of torrenting during lockdown... all  this will very closely match the declining viewship numbers  of westworld. 
 
  
         
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           EpicMegatrax
             from Greatest Hits on 2022-11-16 02:13 [#02622325]
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that, actually, it was st:discovery that got me a  robo-violation letter, and that was (is? [who gives a rat  fart]) exclusive to... CBS something streaming something?  and then i think literally same week, i love the movie baby  driver so much i bought the dvd and the cd soundtrack  despite having a nice clean 1080p pirated copy. that i'm  never going to be some nut that buys a novelty game of  thrones throne, but there is a reasonable buck if you stop  guarding everything like an anemic starved rat clinging to a  quarter of a peanut 
 
  
         
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           ijonspeches
             from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2022-11-16 07:33 [#02622329]
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never was affected by the buzz cause im not huge into  socialization and i basically work on the road. i´ve  managed to not get spoiled the end of GOT for years until i  got a hand on it. there are always rather safe ways to get  anything you want. torrents dont belong into that category  any more unless they re niche. 
  the balkanization as you call it surely has its pros and  cons. those services battle hard for the market, thus  producing fucking expensive shows some with high quality  too. obviously half the population cant afford all of those.  but there is always ways, so i rather see the benefits of  it. another thing is, local laws kind of make it hardly  worth to simply pursue everybody. its not as easy as a  traffic ticket. the main targets of the police are site  admins making millions with ads/hosting and for specialized  law firms its uploaders, preferrably with bonity check, so  theyll get their money quick and without any hassle. so the  vast majority of illegal consumers stays untouched. 
 
  
         
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           ijonspeches
             from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2022-11-16 07:36 [#02622330]
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oh, one more thing, fuck amazon, they´re not getting my money.
 
  
         
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           EpicMegatrax
             from Greatest Hits on 2022-11-17 01:24 [#02622337]
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numerous good points to unpack here
  never was affected by the buzz cause im not huge into  socialization and i basically work on the road.
 
  i started off saying, "i'm not really the average case here,  BUT i feel that not only not alone, but i am onto a general  trend that actually ~is~ bleeding into john. j. average  case
 
  i´ve managed to not get spoiled the end of GOT for years  until i got a hand on it.
 
  i read the first two and a half books on summer break from  college, and, oh, do i want to start over with those  confusing-ass books, or with the TV version, and... weird as  it may sound, i've never seen any GOT at all just because i  still just can't handle... how to handle... how i should  figure out handling... AUGH
 
  there are always rather safe ways to get anything you  want.
 
  and then we get back into my lede for the westworld,  st:discovery copyright trolls: i could still pirate this,  absolutely. in fact, like i said, i kind of just stuck a pin  in it, like, "do that later"
 
  but then i didn't wind up doing that, simply because i had  other things to do and kind of just... forgot about it?
 
  so this "streaming exclusive" crap is essentially the apple  of eris. 
 
  
         
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           ijonspeches
             from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2022-11-17 07:36 [#02622342]
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well, yes, john j. average surely feels the pressure to keep  up with the latest. it goes so far that my under 11 yo  nephews are allowed to watch the squid game by their parents  because all of school watches it. apparently it has arrived  at kindergartens too. the cultural impact of "must see tv"  is bigger even than the financial issue imo, cause i know  quite a few people who switch and cancel trial subscriptions  like clothes to keep up and dont actually pay for more than  one service at a time. or share subscription like i do with  netflix. so there is even legal ways around it.
 
  im glad we kind of watch what we want and not what we feel  has to be watched. furthermore that you have other things in  life. actively creating your life and free time is  undervalued. 
 
  
         
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           ijonspeches
             from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2022-11-17 07:47 [#02622344]
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kids are watching way more influncers on youtube than actual  tv i think. their eyes are glued to the phone like alex in  clockwork orange. my niece is watching things on her phone  everywhere she is. e v e r y w h e r e and in the bed during  the night. they have wrinkles under their eyes like they  work 12 hour shifts. she could be einstein if only she  watched something useful, instead of some assholes marketing  a video game when she is not playing any videogames at all.  this is going to be some fucked up generation and i hope  they´re gonna be able to manage this new world. i know my  media consumation is out of hands at times already. 
 
  
         
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           Wolfslice
             from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2022-11-17 12:58 [#02622359]
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did you like season 1 and 2 of STD?
  I only watched redlettermedia shit all over it.
  I gave Star Trek Picard a shot, but it was the worst thing  I'd ever seen and it made me so embarassed that i literally  tore down my star trek tng poster from the bedroom (this is  a true story) 
 
  
         
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           ijonspeches
             from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2022-11-18 07:34 [#02622409]
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std: nah, i was giving it a chance, after initially being  put off, as being another take and kept watching into season  2. i enjoyed the latest movies, since they were a fast paced  mix of action and classic star trek, which i dont know why,  worked.
  but STD wasnt for me. too military. hardly any science and  sci-fi aspect, and well you know, the klingons... using  worfs words: "we dont talk about it"
 
  havent dared watching picard yet ^^
 
  
         
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           ijonspeches
             from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2022-11-18 07:48 [#02622410]
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thinking about it, i remember wondering why they used the  star trek franchise for this show. it could have been an  above par sci fi series, but it hardly bares any resemblance  with the star trek universe of the previous 703 episodes,  nor their style of story telling.
 
  however im ok with it being out there. like id have people  try something new than not doing it at all.
 
  with picard thats a bit different, cause im a bit afraid hes  not portraying the man i used to see in TNG and it might be  a bit hard to ignore afterwards, but i guess i will watch it  eventually. 
 
  
         
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           EpicMegatrax
             from Greatest Hits on 2022-11-23 15:20 [#02622565]
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so disney read my ranting and brought back bob iger ~  LAZY_TITLE ~ but maybe it was because someone else read  my ranting and wrote an article on the death star cocking up  time-warner, HBO, westworld, etc.
 
  and the common theme is all these idiots are desperate for  numbers; pour billions into exclusive content. people being  rational, they subscribe to each streaming service in turn  for a month and then click a single button to cancel it; see  you in six months when you've blown another 2 billion  dollars
 
  it's almost like it would be a better business model to just  license content
 
  in fact, case in point ~ here is an article about how  to watch, like, probably one of the most decent new movie...  things... out and about now. and it's an article trying to  help people who are confused: can i watch this on netflix,  or... ? 
 
  
         
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           EpicMegatrax
             from Greatest Hits on 2022-11-23 15:33 [#02622566]
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ST:D is just fun. the way mudd comes back with a time  crystal... just, like, yeah, let's just have as much fun as  we can with this formula! and it is indeed a blast. the  constant cheeky references to mushrooms and conformal  symmetry; the tardigrade
 
  then, i dunno, Sonequa Martin-Green, she blows my mind. i'm  not the sort that usually, like... notices acting? but, just  the the stuff she does with little twitches in her face.  it's just this massive firehose of bandwidth; she speaks  entire paragraphs without saying a word. and again, i  usually don't notice acting like that. 
 
  
         
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