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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2007-11-15 18:55 [#02143961]
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...into one of those people that are forever mourning the lost days of when music was good, and you simply refuse to pay attention to anything modern because it "all sounds the same"?
scarily, i think i turned into one of those people a long time ago :-s i feel like a musical dinosaur.
and i still can't "get into" anything that's particularly modern. i guess i'm just a victim of my own generation, and i'm sure that a lot of other people may fall into this too (at least i hope so, i don't wanna be on my own here)
so...does anyone else think that they've hit that point where they think along the same lines?
was thinking about this on the way home from work a few days ago and thought i'd post it here
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optimus prime
on 2007-11-15 19:02 [#02143962]
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i personally believe music keeps getting better and better.
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zoom
from the moon on 2007-11-15 19:09 [#02143963]
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^^^ I'm with Optimus on this one. Just need to know where to look... and it's certainly not on the radio.
Experimental label forums and just delving in to music communities really helps.
That being said - I still like my early jazz - but then there's also been some great 2007 (non jazz) releases. Surprised I like the new Animal Collective as much as I do. And then there's the Dragons of Zynth, Boy Is Fiction , Burial , machinefabriek, Brightblack Morning Light, Black Moth Super Rainbow... the list goes on and on and on.
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2007-11-15 19:17 [#02143965]
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wow i really am a dinosaur then!
thanks guys
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teapot
from Paddington (Australia) on 2007-11-15 19:27 [#02143967]
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i like to think i'm not... but i do get very bleary eyed and nostalgic when someone mentions the 90's...
...i'm still discovering an average of 1 awesome thing per week... this week its:
Amp Fiddler
and then last week i discovered:
Ely Guerra..
and so forth...
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staz
on 2007-11-15 19:30 [#02143969]
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it's just a human function... there's loads of good new stuff out there..
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2007-11-15 19:36 [#02143970]
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I think the ideas are there "maybe" but the actual skill isn't there anymore. The way studios record now. Its not about being a good player anymore..Ive been listening to Led Zeppelin. Good god, The playing in that band. The millions of melodic ideas being fired off in a single track. It just doesn't happen anymore. As far as real instrument music. Yes, I think it was better back in the day. Synth and effects based music is different.
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thecrimsonguard
from ∞ (United States) on 2007-11-15 19:51 [#02143972]
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"i personally believe music keeps getting better and better."
i agree with that statement too... there will always be something cool, even if there are dull periods new things are starting up and gain momentum and then you're backtracking trying to catch up with the next thing that interests you. i use to be a metal head, then i got into aphex and electronic stuff. and there are times when i get bored with electronic stuff, but this music just keeps evolving and new and interesting things pop up so quickly...there were points when i thought metal or electronic stuff couldn't get any better but it did...it has, and it will. Although i hardly listen to metal anymore. while mainstream idiots will still want generic crap, there will always be a group of people who demand good content. and if they can't find it they'll make it.
i do feel like an old fart though about mainstream stuff. American Idol fans amaze me. what rubbish. And then there are the two retarded chicks i work with. They constantly bring me crap telling me its just like Radiohead when its more like crybaby trustfund EMO bullshit, or i think one of them told me the new John Mayer album was just like a Pink Floyd record.
these two idiots enjoy those 'acts' not artists that are created in marketing boardroom meetings... they're more obsessed with the singers hotness rather than their ability to play & write. so it doesn't bother me that they like those type of things for what they're made for, i just hate when they carry on about how good the music is when its not.
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2007-11-15 19:54 [#02143974]
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i only listen to songs featured in car and mp3 player commercials
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pulseclock
from Downtown 81 on 2007-11-15 19:58 [#02143975]
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Oscilik, your avatar looks like John Cusack realizing he's asian and has a small wang.
no offense
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thecrimsonguard
from ∞ (United States) on 2007-11-15 20:01 [#02143977]
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...and nintendo games
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2007-11-15 20:09 [#02143978]
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he's from old boy
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2007-11-15 20:23 [#02143986]
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If they enjoy something that you don't get they aren't idiots. You're idiom isn't the same as theirs. Saying that music is shit these days.
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2007-11-15 20:26 [#02143991]
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as roygbivcore has quite rightly stated, my avatar is a screenshot from Oldboy. it's from my favorite shot in the whole film. the shot is framed perfectly, the lighting is amazing.
and yes, Oldboy is at the top of my film list. hard choice, but it's still a winner
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thecrimsonguard
from ∞ (United States) on 2007-11-15 21:13 [#02144020]
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jivverdicker you might have misread what i typed...they are idiots to begin with. Right down to the valley girl personality and vocabulary.
I didn't call them idiots for the music they listen to. I said i thought it was cool that they like whatever they like. Its all a matter of personal taste. I don't expect them to be into my music at all. Mostly they want to blow the lead singer of some shit band that wrote songs so they could get dumb bitches to blow them...but they actually think that music is the best thing out there. when its not. i should ask them tomorrow who their favorite artist is so i can give you an idea of the kind of vapid shit I'm talking about from the lyrics alone.
I wasn't trying to compare it to anything i listened to. i was just trying to make the point that I'm made to feel like a weirdo b/c i don't listen to mainstream pop/radio music like they do...when they can't see past the fact that they're listening to manufactured music/artists instead of people who are actually musicians. And when they try to explain what they like about who ever it sounds like they're reading from a press release instead of really explaining the music from their own feelings/thoughts.
Think of it as the annoying twats in school that were all about the new kids on the block
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2007-11-15 21:22 [#02144022]
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I know exactly what you are talking about. I was just supposing that I don't give a shit about a door frame and there are plenty of angry carpenters telling me otherwise but I don't give a shit. The door works, I'm listening to my fun music.
It's a waste of time complaining about other people 'not getting it'. Why care? Listen to 'your' music and have some fun.
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2007-11-15 21:25 [#02144023]
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That probably wasn't very clear! My doors are 2 inches and 4 inches bigger than the 'norm'. I need a door. I don't need to know the history or prominant innovators in doors.
Electronic music has gone down hill soo much these days....
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2007-11-15 22:05 [#02144025]
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Its like when my parents hear twinkly bells on a documentary they go "its aphex music!" No,..no its not, Aphex would never use preset 53 on a dx 5. he'd play with the fourth operators modulation envelope clearly, Dad! You just don't get it. I wish you weren't my parents! Gah, Im going to my room.
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2007-11-15 22:12 [#02144026]
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Haha! He can make a 'twinkly' Tambourine/high hat/snare sound. That's about it. Not a nice register though. a+ for effort.
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staz
on 2007-11-15 22:24 [#02144027]
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once i met aphex twins in a tour bus and he said 'sod you you fucking cunt i'm TWEAKING SYNTHS you cunting whore fuck'. then he punted me out of the door and i was mangled by a pack of raptors.
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2007-11-15 22:27 [#02144028]
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Goddamned raptors.
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aquagak
from Berlin (Germany) on 2007-11-16 01:47 [#02144043]
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always on the run
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-11-16 03:50 [#02144057]
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Music died in 1750
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oxygenfad
from www.oxygenfad.com (Canada) on 2007-11-16 05:00 [#02144077]
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I think people are confusing not liking music with getting old :D
My (older) brother was explaining this too me a long time ago, and it's true. The older you get the more out of touch you naturally get.
If I were 15 I would be shitting my pants with all the cool music that is out now. When I hear these bands though a lot of them don't seem new or fresh, they all kind of seem like they are copying each other trying to get that extra 1000+ hits on their myspace.
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SlipDrinkMats
from Thanks (Bhutan) on 2007-11-16 05:09 [#02144081]
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It happens to everyone since the dawn of culture, when you're young you start hoovering up books, films, art, music, absorbing it all... then you get older and your priorities change and you don't need, for whatever reasons, to feel that you're keeping on top of every thing. It's probably some psycholgical thing about, society I don't know, or hormones.
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swears
from junk sleep on 2007-11-16 05:47 [#02144087]
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What I find funny is that most of the bands I see on TV seem like a bunch of drippy sixth formers, even though most of them are probably about my age or a little bit older. When channel four does a hip music show it's like talent night down the local youth club.
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2007-11-16 07:30 [#02144112]
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sure there's plenty of music i can't "get into" that's contemporary. but there's plenty of music that's not contemporary that i can't get into as well. i can't stand ragtime, so when the big ragtime revival comes i'm out of luck.
i don't have any interest in keeping up with anyone or anything. if i haven't heard it, it's new to me. i don't expect anyone to like what i like. as i've gotten older my tastes have changed and i'm sure they'll continue to change but at a slower rate. i'm already pretty old so i think if i was going to lose interest in music i would have done so by now.
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PORICK
from fucking IRELAND on 2007-11-16 07:33 [#02144113]
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i'm stuck in the fucking 70s, HELP, PLEASE
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