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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-10-22 18:36 [#02136523]
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So frustrated. You've got this track, you've been spending ages and ages on it, and there's still something "broken" and off with it. You twiddle and fiddle for hours and then you play it in the car or on another system and it STILL sounds wrong.
Then there's other tracks you do in a couple of hours and they sound great.
I don't understand. But it's very frustrating, because these tracks are often so close to being right, but something just isn't working.
AGHHHH.
Music making can be infuriating.
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mylittlesister
from ...wherever (United Kingdom) on 2007-10-22 18:41 [#02136527]
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take out ur favourite bit, and see what it sounds like.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-10-22 19:01 [#02136534]
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that's life.
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rad smiles
on 2007-10-22 19:32 [#02136556]
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i was messing with something i recorded in 2004 that is "broken" and its the main reason i dont bother recording anymore. i suck!!!!!!!
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futureimage
from buy FIR from Juno (United Kingdom) on 2007-10-23 03:59 [#02136621]
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Make it a B-Side.
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Skink
from A cesspool in eden on 2007-10-23 10:58 [#02136827]
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Well, look at it this way. At least you have not just ground to a halt. That is where i am. So at least you have something that sounds wrong.
Silver linings and all that shit.
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-10-23 11:04 [#02136832]
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Why have you ground to a halt? I liked your stuff very much. keep at it, sir! Watch Inland Empire or go for a walk in some deranged countryside to inspire you. ;-)
... it feels like everything has been a waste of time. But I guess there's always a lot of material to salvage from a track like that thanks to the joys of digital.
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Grahf
from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2007-10-23 12:40 [#02136858]
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argh im in the same situation
i wrote a song i thought was really good. many people agreed. its the first song here; called 'time flies'. doesnt really sound like anything else. its nice and to the point and didnt take all that long, and leaves a nice feeling behind when you've finished listening to it.
but everything ive written so far just doesnt quite cut it as much as that track did.
the latest one ive been working on took bloody ages and just doesnt sound... right. it doesnt leave you satisfied when its finished... no amount of tweaking will pull it out of that.
i think the only way to get over it is to just give it a rest for a while.
i hope?
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-10-23 14:32 [#02136895]
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Making music is the easiest thing on earth.
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rad smiles
on 2007-10-23 14:35 [#02136900]
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but making sound like what you had in your head is way hard
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rad smiles
on 2007-10-23 14:35 [#02136902]
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making it*
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-10-23 15:12 [#02136934]
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Maybe, for you.
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-10-23 16:16 [#02136970]
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Well, that depends on how critial a mood you're in, the quality of the music you've created before ("is this new material as good?"), and as rad smiles pointed out, how keen you are on making something sound like it does in your head (that's obviously pretty easy for the melodic, rhythmic and harmonic elements of a track, but it's tricker to re-create specific sounds or atmospheres that are in your head.)
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rad smiles
on 2007-10-23 16:20 [#02136971]
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thats what i mean. i doubt very many people at all ever accomplish that.
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-10-23 16:25 [#02136973]
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I doubt that too, but often it seems to be like that, doesn't it? - when things are flowing really well and you're following your intuition and creating sounds on the fly - they're great moments, and you often forget how you ended up with the track and all those sounds, but it all works and makes musical sense.
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2007-10-23 16:42 [#02136975]
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if a track doesn't sound right for me i tend to erase it rapidly before i loose a lot of time on it.
for me personally the most frustrating thing is when you have a great sound preset on a synth that just won't fit to anything and you try to make a song around it.
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Sandy
from Morocco (Morocco) on 2007-10-23 16:45 [#02136977]
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heh... all my tracks are broken... music making's just not for me.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-10-23 18:09 [#02137001]
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I doubt your doubt.
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-10-23 18:17 [#02137003]
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a PRESET!? :-p
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2007-10-23 21:34 [#02137042]
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CS2x release it, they will buy
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OK
on 2007-10-24 00:12 [#02137060]
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give up
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Co-existence
from Bergen (Norway) on 2007-10-24 02:10 [#02137083]
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Watching those Depeche Mode documentaries included with the delux reissues made me realize that all those frustrating hours I've spent trying to get a track right was not so bad after all. I think they spent to weeks mastering people are people and when they got to the mastering of the Black Celebration album Gareth Jones looks suicidal. Making music is a pain in the arse, really...
I wonder what Richard does when he is stuck?
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swift_jams
from big sky on 2007-10-24 02:49 [#02137084]
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I've been doing this recently and have finally put the touches on about 6 tracks, close to seven which I think turned out fantastically. (Not sharing them yet.) It takes time and absence of work to make something good I think.
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Skink
from A cesspool in eden on 2007-10-24 08:08 [#02137187]
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Mainly i just don't think i am up to it. The ideas are there it's just the actual sitting down to do it that is the problem. I get there and get stuck really. I am thinking that just having some time off is the best thing. Wait until the ideas explode from my head on to the computer.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-10-24 08:24 [#02137192]
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Remember folks, a computer is not pre-requisite for musical composition.
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Sandy
from Morocco (Morocco) on 2007-10-24 09:56 [#02137220]
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What... I don't..... But you can't... You're nuts! That's crazy talk! Simply ridiculous!
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rad smiles
on 2007-10-24 14:35 [#02137277]
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i dont use a computer for making music.
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Skink
from A cesspool in eden on 2007-10-24 16:22 [#02137302]
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I use a guitar a lot at the moment. It is helping a little.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-10-24 16:59 [#02137307]
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I am too busy playing Bach preludes & fugues at the moment to condescend to music making.
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-10-24 17:09 [#02137310]
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Playing Bach preludes and fugues provides an effective prerequisite to decent music creation. Music making and classical performance go hand in hand quite nicely, sir. There's no condescending about it. The ratfucker might agree actually.
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