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A good pick! Hopefully this will mean that, in the very least, our own politicians realise they have to do more, and actually dare to take the necessary steps. |
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I'm not saying it's not a worthy cause, but how is global warming to do with peace, exactly? Is it a sort of pre-emptive prevention of the inevitable hordes of migrants from hotter countries being gunned down as they try to cross into the borders of more moderately-climated places? |
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"nice" just when he got pwned by the british schooling and justice system |
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In a way, yes, but it's broader: Global warming makes resources more scarce, and resources (including land) are what people fight and wage wars over. |
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He's helped raise awareness. The IPCC handle the facts. |
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al gore seems like a decent guy. even if this does nothing but spite republicans and libertarians, it's worthy. |
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I'm a libertarian and I like Al Gore. He's sincere. |
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be angry so i can enjoy myself. it is my only joy in life. |
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well i don't really believe in global warming anymore |
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The government should strong-arm the heavy polluting corporations a bit, especially if they're doing a bunch of toxic dumping etc. I only have a problem federal restrictions on individuals rights (like you can't BBQ because of air pollutants etc). That should just be personal accountability. |
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Why not? |
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it's prolly sunactivity that's what a friend told me who'd seen that anti-documentary. i don't really feel like forming an opinion about this anymore, i'm not a scientist. i'm for being careful of the environment anyway, so no loss |
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there are anti-documentaries for everything these days. sigh. |
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yea, lol i guess gore was asking for it though |
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It's pretty certain that it isn't sun activity; research done by researchers from the World Radiation Centre in Davos shows so, and when it comes to the sun, those are the guys to trust (it's where other guys have to go to calibrate their equipment). Plus, if we followed the sun's cycle, we'd be entering a new ice age right now, as predicted back in the 70s or whatever. Their predictions were correct even though we aren't in a new ice age: We are, technically, in a new ice age and that is the reason why the temperature hasn't risen more quickly. |
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the first paragraph i believe, the second i do not |
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The red area is deviation from how the temperature should proceed, if our temperature followed only natural variations. : "An analysis of the records of all of the Sun's activities over the past few decades - such as sunspot cycles and magnetic fields - shows that since 1985 solar activity has decreased significantly, while global warming has continued to increase." |
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my penis is getting warmer |
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some reading on the Ice Age deal. |
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man can't predict ice ages |
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Tipper |
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You're trolling, but the climate has, up until now, been going in a rather regular pattern, and it is this pattern plus observations of the sun's patterns, that enables us to predict how the climate would have been. |
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I'm not buying that were "supposed to be in an ice age" right now. At least not one of any substantial magnitude. There are some indicators that one may be coming in the future, though. |
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im not trolling, i pulled out my penis prematurely is all ;) |
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Hahahah! "the Global Warming mill (really the anti-industry, anti-population lobby, headed and pumped with money by the Royal Consort Prince Philip, and former Nazi Party member Prince Bernhard of the Netherlands)" |
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It's a small ice-age (compare on the graph to the lowest point, which is a full-blown one). |
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haha, when I saw that line I thought you'd get a kick out of it. Despite that, the article actually sums up the Ice Age concern pretty well (I've read some other stuff on it too from different sources). I haven't read much that supports the theory that global warming is doing anything to stave off an Ice Age. |
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And that's not to belittle the possible impact of global warming. We're pumping a shitload of co2 into the atmosphere and that's bound to have some negative effects somewhere along the line. |
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"We are, technically, in a new ice age and that is the reason why the temperature hasn't risen more quickly." So basically, what you're saying is many people would already be dead from the ice age and global warming has actually saved our lives. And you're saying it's a badthing? :D As an aside, I read a good quote on peak oil/global warming paranoia the other day: "It's like that W2K nonsense all over again, without the inconveniance of a deadline." |
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His data don't contradict the IPCC: Global warming doesn't mean everywhere will get hotter simultaneously, and local "climate" changes have been predicted. In the same way, I can't "prove" global warming by stating that the Norwegian glaciers are as small as they've been since recording started (true statement, not just an example). Global warming is global and global data need to be correlated. Some of the more local effects of climate change can be to make an area colder, and another area hotter, but the main thing is that global average temperature still rises. The ice age also still hasn't reached it's "peak" (low?), and it is possible that it will reach enough power to overpower our effect. |
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No, it's a small ice age, so the change wouldn't be that dramatic. Also, people have been dying from heat-waves (in France for instance) lately, so it isn't a good thing that it's getting hotter in any case. |
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i'm in favor of global warming. less snow. yay! |
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Another thing you should notice is that the ice age has a rather slow onset while the global warming is moving at a much faster pace, which makes it harder for us to adjust to the changes. |
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"my penis is getting warmer" HA! |
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it's one-issueness anyway, making comprehendable all the world's environmental problems into one boogeyman we now have stupid shit like climateneutral flying (when the trees are cut all the co2 comes back anyway) i'm just happy gore didn't succeed into make glad global warming as hip as as breast cancer |
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It's more about taking responsibility for the things you can take responsibility for, and, yes, some of the "solutions" really are crap, but mostly because economists are running things. |
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it's just the modern original sin. best get rid of most of the worlds population |
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I POLLUTE THE WORLD, AND I GOT ONE OF THOSE TOO |
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I am the original sin! |
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