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         |  Ceri JC
             from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-10-08 05:24 [#02129481] Points: 23533 Status: Moderator | Show recordbag
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 | Hi Folks, 
 I want to make a recommendation about a hypothetical piece
 of software and was wondering if any of you were aware of an
 existing product (or free utility) that performs this sort
 of function.
 
 I would like a network tool (presumably it'd have to run as
 a service with domain admin rights) that can basically go
 across a given network and find all files of a certain type
 on all machines on the network, e.g. all MP3s. Ideally, it'd
 be clever enough to look inside .zip and/or .rar files and
 find ones stored in there. It would provide the utility to
 delete these, or perhaps move them elsewhere (to a
 particular folder on a specific server). Does such a tool
 exist?
 
 Elusive, you're the man, help me out! :D
 
 Cheers,
 
 Ceri
 
 
 
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         |  sheffieldbleep
             from Sheffield (United Kingdom) on 2007-10-08 05:36 [#02129482] Points: 2466 Status: Lurker
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 | I doubt you would be able to browse all the files in all PCs on the network (unless they were thin clients or managed
 systems) due to the users file/folder permitions.
 
 I have problems at work with people using the servers as
 personal photo and music storage.
 
 
 
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         |  Drunken Mastah
             from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-10-08 05:52 [#02129487] Points: 35867 Status: Lurker | Followup to sheffieldbleep: #02129482 | Show recordbag
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 | "I have problems at work with people using the servers as personal photo and music storage."
 
 Why is that a problem?
 
 
 
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         |  sheffieldbleep
             from Sheffield (United Kingdom) on 2007-10-08 06:02 [#02129489] Points: 2466 Status: Lurker
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 | well it's not personally a problem for me. 
 
 
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         |  Drunken Mastah
             from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-10-08 06:15 [#02129490] Points: 35867 Status: Lurker | Followup to sheffieldbleep: #02129489 | Show recordbag
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 | Who is it a problem for, then, and why? 
 
 
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         |  sheffieldbleep
             from Sheffield (United Kingdom) on 2007-10-08 06:26 [#02129491] Points: 2466 Status: Lurker | Followup to Drunken Mastah: #02129490
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 | I would have thought it was fucking obvious 
 
 
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         |  bingob
             on 2007-10-08 06:30 [#02129492] Points: 675 Status: Lurker | Followup to Drunken Mastah: #02129490
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 | It is problem for work that sheffieldbleep and colleagues only dj'ing and watching pornpics at work instead of working
 perhaps?
 
 
 
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         |  sheffieldbleep
             from Sheffield (United Kingdom) on 2007-10-08 06:32 [#02129493] Points: 2466 Status: Lurker | Followup to bingob: #02129492
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 | hahaha it's the truth 
 
 
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         |  Ceri JC
             from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-10-08 06:41 [#02129498] Points: 23533 Status: Moderator | Show recordbag
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 | It's a problem you fuckers are hijacking my thread! :D 
 
 
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         |  Drunken Mastah
             from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-10-08 07:31 [#02129508] Points: 35867 Status: Lurker | Followup to sheffieldbleep: #02129491 | Show recordbag
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 | While you may think so, I see no problem with it, so explain why it is a problem.
 
 
 
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         |  Drunken Mastah
             from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-10-08 07:36 [#02129509] Points: 35867 Status: Lurker | Followup to Ceri JC: #02129498 | Show recordbag
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 | I'm wondering if what you're proposing to do would even be legal...
 
 That said, are these programs something like
 what you need?
 
 
 
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         |  Ceri JC
             from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-10-08 07:38 [#02129510] Points: 23533 Status: Moderator | Followup to Drunken Mastah: #02129508 | Show recordbag
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 | Company spends £100K + on a SAN. 5 days later and after only uploading 100GB of company data, it is 90% full as the
 users have started uploading games, MP3s, Photos, videos,
 etc. Also, the users are doing no work (because of the
 wonderful in office P2P they now have) so productivity
 nosedives. See the problem now?
 
 
 
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         |  Drunken Mastah
             from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-10-08 07:42 [#02129511] Points: 35867 Status: Lurker | Followup to Ceri JC: #02129510 | Show recordbag
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 | Is this conjecture, or a real situation? 
 
 
 
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         |  Ceri JC
             from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-10-08 07:47 [#02129512] Points: 23533 Status: Moderator | Followup to Drunken Mastah: #02129511 | Show recordbag
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 | It's a slight exaggeration, but not by much. I have had clients where their admin has been lax (or their computer
 use policy not enforced, depending on your POV) and about
 50% of the storage space was being used for non-work
 purposed. I don't know if you recall the user Jand, but he
 got into trouble in work after some dolt from here made
 public the details of the FTP Jand was uploading mp3 gigs
 etc. to. Being the internet, word spreads fast and before
 you know it, dozens of strangers are circulating the details
 of the site and using it as an equivalent of yousendit.
 
 Certainly, being anal about people storing a dozen mp3s and
 a couple of pictures on their local machine is silly, but I
 have worked in places where multiple people have literally
 brought in their whole MP3 collections on several DVD-rs and
 uploaded them to the servers.
 
 
 
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         |  sheffieldbleep
             from Sheffield (United Kingdom) on 2007-10-08 07:48 [#02129513] Points: 2466 Status: Lurker | Followup to Ceri JC: #02129510
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 | so the files in questions aren't on the users pc but on the SAN. Just highlight the SANs drive letter or folder and run
 a search *.mp3 *.jpg etc the hit delete
 
 
 
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         |  Drunken Mastah
             from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-10-08 07:58 [#02129516] Points: 35867 Status: Lurker | Followup to Ceri JC: #02129512 | Show recordbag
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 | How slight? As far as I know, and as any search on the subject on google will also confirm, the effect of music on
 the workplace is a beneficial one, raising the worker's
 morale, tempo, efficiency, and even possibly improving his
 physical health. This effect is increased even more when the
 music is something the worker has selected himself.
 
 A link.
 
 
 
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         |  Drunken Mastah
             from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-10-08 08:01 [#02129517] Points: 35867 Status: Lurker | Followup to Ceri JC: #02129512 | Show recordbag
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 | Oh, and the fact that one or two may abuse the system every once in a while doesn't automatically mean it's a bad
 system.
 
 
 
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         |  Ceri JC
             from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-10-08 10:20 [#02129568] Points: 23533 Status: Moderator | Followup to sheffieldbleep: #02129513 | Show recordbag
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 | Oh no, I was just using a simple example to illustrate it to DM. In the problem in the original thread, the files would
 be spread across the SAN, disparate servers and on
 individual machines. I'd like a tool that could find them
 all.
 
 DM: I'm not criticising music listening in work, not at all.
 The negative effect in this instance is the loss of storage
 space for the customer overall. The actual problem I am
 looking at and made the original request about concerns
 database dump files(which can be very big indeed). I only
 mentioned mp3s because I imagine that would be one of the
 most common uses of such a tool (in places with a no music
 policy) and that it might trigger someone's memory.
 
 Trust me, I won't "misuse" this knowledge to stop people
 listening to music in work (not least because I do it
 myself)! :)
 
 
 
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         |  dave_g
             from United Kingdom on 2007-10-08 11:58 [#02129594] Points: 3372 Status: Lurker
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 | You need every hackers best friend; a decent perl script. perl has loads of libraries to do funky stuff like dip into
 zips and uses regular expressions as a super powerful way of
 doing pattern searches and the like.
 
 If your servers are running linux/bsd/unix set the cron job
 to run the script daily in the middle of the night (or other
 quiet time), I don't know about windows servers.
 
 I wouldn't worry about what the people have on their
 personal machines really. Maybe I'm too liberal?
 
 off topic: "He is at the discotheque" by Poly is currently
 rocking my speakers and is really fantastic.
 
 
 
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         |  Drunken Mastah
             from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-10-08 12:10 [#02129599] Points: 35867 Status: Lurker | Followup to Ceri JC: #02129568 | Show recordbag
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 | Hm... oh well. Didn't those programs I linked seem to be able to do the job, though?
 
 
 
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         |  PORICK
             from fucking IRELAND on 2007-10-08 15:34 [#02129661] Points: 1911 Status: Lurker
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 | you'll need to be sharing these files and directories over the network, and then you'll be able to scan across them
 with a perl script, as dave_g says
 
 
 
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         |  Ceri JC
             from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-10-09 03:36 [#02129783] Points: 23533 Status: Moderator | Followup to Drunken Mastah: #02129599 | Show recordbag
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 | Sorry, I missed that somehow. Yes, that is exactly what I was looking for, ta very much.
 
 As to the legality of it, it's actually to fulfill our legal
 obligations that I need to seek out and destroy database
 dump files floating around on our network which are no
 longer needed.
 
 Ta Porick and Dave_g for your suggestions. I'm going to
 recommend using perl scripts on the unix servers (we only
 have a couple and it's only two of us who really touch them,
 so it looks like that might fall to me), something like
 lanspider on the windows network and a scheduled task on the
 SAN to delete all .dmp files and all .bak files over 1GB (as
 other programs use the .bak extension and I don't want it to
 knacker them.)
 
 Dave, the worry is about people holding copies of our
 clients databases on their local machines and we have an
 obligation to remove these once they are no longer needed,
 not about someone having counterstrike/some mp3s on it.
 
 Ta for all your help folks, most appreciated.
 
 
 
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