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offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-10-08 05:24 [#02129481]
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Hi Folks,

I want to make a recommendation about a hypothetical piece
of software and was wondering if any of you were aware of an
existing product (or free utility) that performs this sort
of function.

I would like a network tool (presumably it'd have to run as
a service with domain admin rights) that can basically go
across a given network and find all files of a certain type
on all machines on the network, e.g. all MP3s. Ideally, it'd
be clever enough to look inside .zip and/or .rar files and
find ones stored in there. It would provide the utility to
delete these, or perhaps move them elsewhere (to a
particular folder on a specific server). Does such a tool
exist?

Elusive, you're the man, help me out! :D

Cheers,

Ceri


 

offline sheffieldbleep from Sheffield (United Kingdom) on 2007-10-08 05:36 [#02129482]
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I doubt you would be able to browse all the files in all PCs
on the network (unless they were thin clients or managed
systems) due to the users file/folder permitions.

I have problems at work with people using the servers as
personal photo and music storage.


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-10-08 05:52 [#02129487]
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"I have problems at work with people using the servers as
personal photo and music storage."

Why is that a problem?


 

offline sheffieldbleep from Sheffield (United Kingdom) on 2007-10-08 06:02 [#02129489]
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well it's not personally a problem for me.


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-10-08 06:15 [#02129490]
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Who is it a problem for, then, and why?


 

offline sheffieldbleep from Sheffield (United Kingdom) on 2007-10-08 06:26 [#02129491]
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I would have thought it was fucking obvious


 

offline bingob on 2007-10-08 06:30 [#02129492]
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It is problem for work that sheffieldbleep and colleagues
only dj'ing and watching pornpics at work instead of working
perhaps?


 

offline sheffieldbleep from Sheffield (United Kingdom) on 2007-10-08 06:32 [#02129493]
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hahaha it's the truth


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-10-08 06:41 [#02129498]
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It's a problem you fuckers are hijacking my thread! :D


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-10-08 07:31 [#02129508]
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While you may think so, I see no problem with it, so explain
why it is a problem.


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-10-08 07:36 [#02129509]
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I'm wondering if what you're proposing to do would even be
legal...

That said, are these programs something like
what you need?


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-10-08 07:38 [#02129510]
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Company spends £100K + on a SAN. 5 days later and after
only uploading 100GB of company data, it is 90% full as the
users have started uploading games, MP3s, Photos, videos,
etc. Also, the users are doing no work (because of the
wonderful in office P2P they now have) so productivity
nosedives. See the problem now?


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-10-08 07:42 [#02129511]
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Is this conjecture, or a real situation?



 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-10-08 07:47 [#02129512]
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It's a slight exaggeration, but not by much. I have had
clients where their admin has been lax (or their computer
use policy not enforced, depending on your POV) and about
50% of the storage space was being used for non-work
purposed. I don't know if you recall the user Jand, but he
got into trouble in work after some dolt from here made
public the details of the FTP Jand was uploading mp3 gigs
etc. to. Being the internet, word spreads fast and before
you know it, dozens of strangers are circulating the details
of the site and using it as an equivalent of yousendit.

Certainly, being anal about people storing a dozen mp3s and
a couple of pictures on their local machine is silly, but I
have worked in places where multiple people have literally
brought in their whole MP3 collections on several DVD-rs and
uploaded them to the servers.


 

offline sheffieldbleep from Sheffield (United Kingdom) on 2007-10-08 07:48 [#02129513]
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so the files in questions aren't on the users pc but on the
SAN. Just highlight the SANs drive letter or folder and run
a search *.mp3 *.jpg etc the hit delete


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-10-08 07:58 [#02129516]
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How slight? As far as I know, and as any search on the
subject on google will also confirm, the effect of music on
the workplace is a beneficial one, raising the worker's
morale, tempo, efficiency, and even possibly improving his
physical health. This effect is increased even more when the
music is something the worker has selected himself.

A link.


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-10-08 08:01 [#02129517]
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Oh, and the fact that one or two may abuse the system every
once in a while doesn't automatically mean it's a bad
system.


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-10-08 10:20 [#02129568]
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Oh no, I was just using a simple example to illustrate it to
DM. In the problem in the original thread, the files would
be spread across the SAN, disparate servers and on
individual machines. I'd like a tool that could find them
all.

DM: I'm not criticising music listening in work, not at all.
The negative effect in this instance is the loss of storage
space for the customer overall. The actual problem I am
looking at and made the original request about concerns
database dump files(which can be very big indeed). I only
mentioned mp3s because I imagine that would be one of the
most common uses of such a tool (in places with a no music
policy) and that it might trigger someone's memory.

Trust me, I won't "misuse" this knowledge to stop people
listening to music in work (not least because I do it
myself)! :)


 

offline dave_g from United Kingdom on 2007-10-08 11:58 [#02129594]
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You need every hackers best friend; a decent perl script.
perl has loads of libraries to do funky stuff like dip into
zips and uses regular expressions as a super powerful way of
doing pattern searches and the like.

If your servers are running linux/bsd/unix set the cron job
to run the script daily in the middle of the night (or other
quiet time), I don't know about windows servers.

I wouldn't worry about what the people have on their
personal machines really. Maybe I'm too liberal?

off topic: "He is at the discotheque" by Poly is currently
rocking my speakers and is really fantastic.


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-10-08 12:10 [#02129599]
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Hm... oh well. Didn't those programs I linked seem to be
able to do the job, though?


 

offline PORICK from fucking IRELAND on 2007-10-08 15:34 [#02129661]
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you'll need to be sharing these files and directories over
the network, and then you'll be able to scan across them
with a perl script, as dave_g says


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-10-09 03:36 [#02129783]
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Sorry, I missed that somehow. Yes, that is exactly what I
was looking for, ta very much.

As to the legality of it, it's actually to fulfill our legal
obligations that I need to seek out and destroy database
dump files floating around on our network which are no
longer needed.

Ta Porick and Dave_g for your suggestions. I'm going to
recommend using perl scripts on the unix servers (we only
have a couple and it's only two of us who really touch them,
so it looks like that might fall to me), something like
lanspider on the windows network and a scheduled task on the
SAN to delete all .dmp files and all .bak files over 1GB (as
other programs use the .bak extension and I don't want it to
knacker them.)

Dave, the worry is about people holding copies of our
clients databases on their local machines and we have an
obligation to remove these once they are no longer needed,
not about someone having counterstrike/some mp3s on it.

Ta for all your help folks, most appreciated.


 


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