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isnieZot
from pooptown (Belgium) on 2007-10-06 11:44 [#02128966]
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the samples are up at mu. there seems to be some fuss on the mu forum regarding the release.
my fav is still print F shiver in eternal darkness. I am punisher of the atoms!
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PORICK
from fucking IRELAND on 2007-10-06 11:47 [#02128968]
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more vsnares lads, roll up, roll up
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staz
on 2007-10-06 11:59 [#02128974]
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heard the album.
it's different.
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2007-10-06 13:33 [#02129000]
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i am making an example of them.
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cx
from Norway on 2007-10-10 04:38 [#02130463]
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i love it
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pigster
from melbs on 2007-10-10 04:51 [#02130466]
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Integraation is awesome as far as breaks and orchestra goes.
i hate to sound like a whinging idm fan boi who cant accept a little change, but all those Holló Utca really bored me. just silly wanky tunes that i'd much rather not be listening to. the rest of the album was enjoyable though.
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nacmat
on 2007-10-10 07:39 [#02130503]
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bought it but didnt listen to it yet
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2007-10-10 07:40 [#02130505]
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bought it, ripped it, gave it to the world for free burned my copy buy
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oxygenfad
from www.oxygenfad.com (Canada) on 2007-10-10 08:23 [#02130523]
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I agree with pigster. I like all the tracks except for those.
It's really good ! Worth the listen !!!!!!!!
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QRDL
from Poland on 2007-10-10 08:43 [#02130534]
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I'm really getting sick of this guy's drum programming. As of today I'm joining the haters.
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cx
from Norway on 2007-10-10 08:50 [#02130537]
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ya he shoulda scrapped the beats altogether.
the instruments are very naked in the mix, can clearly hear its digital, but it adds to the charm of what sounds like a horror soundtrack from eastern europe 20 years ago.
he really does this well as he did on rossz, but i still consider rossz slightly better because of its variety.
he does strings very good here though.
overall 9/10, 9 because 1. he could've added some more stuff and 2. the beats, they interrupt my flow and like on rossz i just skip them usually.
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2007-10-10 08:56 [#02130539]
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id go see v.snores live and buy the t-shirt, but i just cant listen to his stuff in car or headphones, minus "dance like yoru selling nails"
im addcited to that crack pipe
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gl0tch
from www.gl0tch.com   on 2007-10-10 08:56 [#02130540]
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The record couldnt be any more appropriately titled.
This dude needs to go on sabbatical for a long long time before he tries to release anything "new" any time soon.
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2007-10-10 08:59 [#02130541]
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I hear he is releasing two more lps, and three more 7"s before the year is over.....and 20+ releases in 2008.
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oxygenfad
from www.oxygenfad.com (Canada) on 2007-10-10 09:20 [#02130546]
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I like it, poor guy has a lot of weight on his shoulders. It's ashame because he is a really nice guy in person, address alllll of his fans, sends them free cd's (remember the guy who's car got broken into? Arron sent him a huge chunk of his catalog for free and some other cool swag).
And don't know man I really admire the guy a lot, I wish more of my favorite bands were as cool as he is.
I don't know why everyone is expecting all this shit from him, we all know his styles and what he does in his music, this is like being angry that Devo didn't produce a rap album or Aphex not singing a good ballad.
It's all going over my head I really don't know what all the fuss is about, it's a good album, if you don't like ti thats cool too, whatever man.
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cx
from Norway on 2007-10-10 09:35 [#02130547]
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he listened to a song of mine ages ago and we talked about orch stuff around the release of rossz.
i got the impression he was a nice guy yeah.
rossz is one of my long time favorites, and this doesnt disappoint.
ive not read all that people have written about him, but for this album he deserves praise, i know how hard strings and stuff can be and he nails it perfectly.
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gl0tch
from www.gl0tch.com   on 2007-10-10 09:42 [#02130550]
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Oh, don't get me wrong, I for one am not doubting his character as a person. I'm just saying his music is becoming dangerously formulaic.
YES, this album is different for him, but when interpreted through the lens of Rossz, it's not too dissimilar, that's all.
The differences between Devo and Aphex vs Vsnares, is that one can drammatically tell the difference between full length albums. It becomes more difficult to do the same for VSnares. Yes, one could argue that is a challenge to the mold of expectation as it relates to the album format, but honestly I think Snares has become such a "brand" it could be working against him.
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2007-10-10 09:46 [#02130552]
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Really? you couldnt do a search and find a thread about it could you. Thats really cool of aaron.
*emails aaron. I just had my car broke into, can you help a brotha out plz*
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thecrimsonguard
from ∞ (United States) on 2007-10-10 10:02 [#02130557]
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I really enjoy his work. I know his music divides audiences greatly. I agree with what Oxygenfad said about him. I've chatted with him once or twice. Based on that, and everything i read about people that meet him, he is def a good guy. It'd be cool to actually meet him some day.
You are spot on with the breakdown of peoples expectations of his music. Its like expecting Slayer to produce an Operatic album, with orchestra, Tom Araya singing with a gentle voice, and everyone in the band wearing a Tux, clean cut playing violins. Thats not what they do. Thats what metallica does. Although they didn't ditch their instruments they did a duet with an orchestra which was fucking sloppy as a steaming pile of shit. They changed their image, writing style...and pretty much said F U to fans and sold out to the retards so they could make millions. i adore their albums up until ...and justice. but everything else is shit to me. but i'm straying off on a tangent here.
I like when i pick up a Vsnares album, i know its going to be fast, agressive, crazy shit. Its obviously not chill out ambient music. But its like people going to a yanni concert expecting a metal show complete with mosh pit...its fucking gay ass Yanni....people just puzzle me that way.
to all the haters: what is it exactly that you dislike so much about his music? I don't mean to generalize but most of you guys just find posts about his albums and bash and bash while people that might want to actually talk about it or give a fuck have to put up with this bullshit. speak up...i really want to understand why you can't stand this guy or his music.
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thecrimsonguard
from ∞ (United States) on 2007-10-10 10:04 [#02130559]
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what ever happend to drum and bass jerk? i remember when he claimed his car was broken into...he did kiss the dudes ass 24/7
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2007-10-10 10:14 [#02130560]
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Like the guy, his music isnt me, or Metallica, or Yanni either.
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gerbik
on 2007-10-10 11:07 [#02130587]
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aaron is a very good guy, and his album is terrific IMO.
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oxygenfad
from www.oxygenfad.com (Canada) on 2007-10-10 11:34 [#02130593]
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gl0tch , I see your point.
Venetian Snares albums change in sound per portioned to his release scope. You can group the releases that sound the same by virtue of when they were released.
{ hospitality cavalcade of glee and dadaist... } { winnipeg is a frozen shithole infolepsy ep } { huge chrome cylinder box unfolding horse and goat }
And so on ... yes there is the odd exception, but for the most part you can tell that that most of these groups came from the same session, but were most likely broken up due to release obligations.
Maybe if Vsnares is the only thing you listen to all day , it might get stale, but I can't think of to many other artists which such a huge catalog of A++ stuff.
SLAYER releases the same album over and over again,
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2007-10-10 12:27 [#02130614]
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"SLAYER releases the same album over and over again," No they dont.
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nacmat
on 2007-10-10 15:21 [#02130743]
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jackeroffer
from Aruba on 2007-10-10 16:07 [#02130752]
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i like vsnares he just puts out too many fucking records. Artists that do this ala Merzbow get in a bad cycle eventually and tire people including myself. I like a lot of merzbow and vsnares both but h ell no am i going to anticipate with glee everything they put out, i could not follow their career for years and not really care. he needs to have a little bit more quality control imo.
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thecrimsonguard
from ∞ (United States) on 2007-10-10 16:23 [#02130754]
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oy oxygenfad. Slayers early catalog is among some of the best metal out there. There were/are better bands out around, but everything up until Diabous in Musica or whatever are awesome. the double live album they did is probably THE best live metal album ever. Everything since kinda they've just released the same album over and over....but, i admire them for sticking to what they do and not selling out for an audience of retards.
jackeroffer...i kind of like the fact the dude releases a ton of material. Its better than waiting 4 years for an artist to release something thats been on the shelf for 3.5 years just collecting dust b/c of record label nonsense or whatever. Look at the Tuss tracks, how long ago was RDJ playing those out live? 2 3 years ago now? Even snares lets his music sit on the shelf for a year or so before releasing it.
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retape
from http://retape.net (Norway) on 2007-10-11 13:52 [#02131094]
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My Downfall is really good so far. haven't really gotten totally into it yet, but it sounds great.
wazzap with the hatin' on teh drum programming? it's very different from rossz and a lot of his other records.
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futureimage
from buy FIR from Juno (United Kingdom) on 2008-12-25 11:38 [#02260749]
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Holy fuck this is awesome. Perhaps even better than Rossz Csillag - I really didn't think I'd say that.
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Jaser
from Castle Greyskull (United Kingdom) on 2008-12-25 11:50 [#02260751]
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me no likely to much instrumental w*nk not enough bang sh*t.
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futureimage
from buy FIR from Juno (United Kingdom) on 2008-12-25 11:51 [#02260752]
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It seems to alternate between the two track to track really which is pretty good.
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TroutMask
from New York City (United States) on 2008-12-25 14:18 [#02260764]
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Something about My Downfall didn't rub me the right way. I can't even really put my finger on it, but I feel like the break beat cuts/slices were just kind of not integrated well with the strings. It almost felt rushed, or like he composed the strings/beats separately and then combined them later in Pro Tools randomly...
I like the previous Rossz better. I'm happier with him returning to his "roots" in Detrimentalist...
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DeLtoiD
from Ontario on 2008-12-25 15:05 [#02260769]
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i wanna hear detrimentalist
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retape
from http://retape.net (Norway) on 2008-12-27 19:03 [#02261035]
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looking back on this album I prefer rossz over it a million times.
I hate reading my first impressions on things.
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