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artists with best controls of their machines?
 

offline cerpin from Germany on 2007-09-09 10:49 [#02118569]
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there is good and there is even better music. it is not
neccessary to have good control of your synths and machines
but there are artists and pieces of music which proof that
these artists have not only good control of their machines,
but you might think the machines are body extensions of the
artists.

name artists who seem to have synths and machines as body
extensions


 

offline cerpin from Germany on 2007-09-09 10:51 [#02118570]
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autechre, with ep7 and confield they totally proved to me
they are master of their machines

also cristian vogel seems to know his machines pretty well
and can form music like modelling clay (examples: rescate
237 and dungeon master)


 

offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2007-09-09 10:58 [#02118571]
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i would say autechre too but not for ep7 or confield but for
the untilted live series where you can hear their progress
from live set to live set.

madlib is a master for me for being able to make a hole
album using a cassette portastudio and a boss sampler.



 

offline cerpin from Germany on 2007-09-09 10:59 [#02118572]
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live series? where can i get these?


 

offline Sido Dyas from a computer on 2007-09-09 11:18 [#02118573]
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Yeah im with you on that , Madlib use crazy simple
equipment and make whole Jazz Albums . Impressive to say the
least.


 

offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2007-09-09 11:38 [#02118575]
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live series = live sets. the 2006 live sets. they played the
same set all over again every time with slight changes. you
can get most of them from the xltronic torrents
LAZY_TITLE


 

offline cerpin from Germany on 2007-09-09 11:42 [#02118578]
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thnx, you are my hero of the day


 

offline hedphukkerr from mathbotton (United States) on 2007-09-09 13:38 [#02118599]
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nod osdam is another hiphop producer who has severely
impressed me with his skills on limited equipment (much like
madlib, the clouddead selftitled is entirely composed with
an 8 track tape, boss sampler and a radioshack microhpone.)

itd feel wrong to not mention richard devine in this thread,
although who knows if he has any real control over what he's
doing :P

also, im sure you guys are tired of hearing me talk about
them, but justice have a great feel for their sounds - they
can pull, rip and distort any little sound at the drop of
the hat it sounds like.


 

offline stilaktive from a place on 2007-09-09 13:43 [#02118601]
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i think if you gave mr devine something extremely limiting
he would still produce some crazy tings.


 

offline cygnus from nowhere and everyplace on 2007-09-09 13:57 [#02118603]
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what do you mean by "control"?

AE get deep with sequencing obviously but its whats in the
human brain to start with - its the ideas. yanni is a a
stellar pianist but he is indistinguishable from any other
stellar pianist


 

offline cygnus from nowhere and everyplace on 2007-09-09 13:58 [#02118604]
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richard devine likes kyma presets


 

offline cerpin from Germany on 2007-09-09 14:15 [#02118607]
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"control" means in this context that the artist can not only
manipulate his sounds but form and model them. When you
listen to autechre's ep7 or confield, or cristian vogel's
stuff it sounds like they are not sampling the stuff and
repeating but they can form the sounds into any shape they
feel like. there are some albums and artists who can do
that, and that's the question in this thread. who artists or
albums do you know which sound "controlled", not just
sampled and repeated over and over again.


 

offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2007-09-09 14:33 [#02118610]
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it would be quite a great idea to make such a compilation
where you would tak the "big guys" (afx, sp, ae, devine
etc.) and give them, let's say an korg emx-1 or an roland mc
808 only on which they would have to do a track for it.

i wanna add merzbow to this set - come on who else can make
whole albums by crashing chairs, recording it and puting it
trough a guitar distortion pedal?


 

offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2007-09-09 14:35 [#02118611]
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actually ep7 isn't really a good add. i mean we know that
those where the days of algorythmic selv-evovling sequencers
build in max/msp. they mastered max maybe but in the sense
of your topic rather their program control them than the
other way round. i'm very sure that most of those tracks
where recorded in the "press play and see what comes out"
mood.


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2007-09-09 15:06 [#02118634]
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steedie.


 

offline cerpin from Germany on 2007-09-09 15:14 [#02118635]
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you are right. but autechre are guys who know their machines
very good, even if confield and ep7 are not the best
examples of that


 

offline hedphukkerr from mathbotton (United States) on 2007-09-09 15:29 [#02118645]
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im listening to one word extinguisher and am hereby adding
prefuse to this list.


 

offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2007-09-09 15:36 [#02118651]
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i heard he made that whole album on an mpc - i don't believe
it though.


 

offline staz on 2007-09-09 15:45 [#02118655]
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go plastic and drukqs, end of discussion


 

offline PS on 2007-09-09 17:59 [#02118681]
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You are all wrong! Kraftwerk is the obvious answer. They
are practically robots.


 

offline PS on 2007-09-09 18:03 [#02118683]
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Video Evidence


 

offline cuntychuck from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2007-09-09 18:44 [#02118686]
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you're obviously funny.


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-09-10 09:19 [#02118744]
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It's "Odd Nosdam". :)


 

offline dave_g from United Kingdom on 2007-09-10 09:46 [#02118753]
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I would say King Tubby.


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-09-10 09:49 [#02118756]
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Good choice.


 

offline hedphukkerr from mathbotton (United States) on 2007-09-10 12:53 [#02118837]
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woah, spoonerism. hahaha, good catch. :P


 

offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2007-09-10 12:58 [#02118839]
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drukqs.

untilted isn't my fav release, but in the context of
"machines", it fits better


 

offline futureimage from buy FIR from Juno (United Kingdom) on 2007-09-10 13:02 [#02118841]
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Autechre and Aphex definitely.

Mind... you say control... I like it when I'm making music
and I'm NO LONGER in control of whatever in front of me's
doing (in a good way of course). I love getting lost in
loads of patching stuff, it's great!


 

offline ijonspeches from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2007-09-10 13:46 [#02118859]
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monkeydrummer


 

offline bogala from NYC (United States) on 2007-09-10 13:51 [#02118862]
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Aphex is the best at this. His music sounds like everything
he did is not an accident, but still groundbreaking and full
of seemingly happy accidents. Does that make sense?


 

offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2007-09-10 13:57 [#02118865]
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the mastering of drukqs is sheer unbelievable. just listen
to it. can you hear how much is going on with the bass drum
in 54 cymru beats? or the breakdown with the bells in mt.
saint michel. my fuckin good.

but actually looking at the fact that he can probably have
every gear he wants then i cannot add him to this topic.


 

offline Zephyr Twin from ΔΔΔ on 2007-09-10 13:59 [#02118866]
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6u9/BugVision


 

offline cygnus from nowhere and everyplace on 2007-09-10 14:00 [#02118867]
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anyone here seen dj krush on turntables?


 

offline esaruoho from helsinki (Finland) on 2007-09-10 22:32 [#02118951]
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aphex twin,
squarepusher
and my personal fave, brothomstates


 

offline optimus prime on 2007-09-10 22:59 [#02118952]
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battles.


 


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