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cerpin
from Germany on 2007-09-09 10:49 [#02118569]
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there is good and there is even better music. it is not neccessary to have good control of your synths and machines but there are artists and pieces of music which proof that these artists have not only good control of their machines, but you might think the machines are body extensions of the artists.
name artists who seem to have synths and machines as body extensions
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cerpin
from Germany on 2007-09-09 10:51 [#02118570]
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autechre, with ep7 and confield they totally proved to me they are master of their machines
also cristian vogel seems to know his machines pretty well and can form music like modelling clay (examples: rescate 237 and dungeon master)
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2007-09-09 10:58 [#02118571]
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i would say autechre too but not for ep7 or confield but for the untilted live series where you can hear their progress from live set to live set.
madlib is a master for me for being able to make a hole album using a cassette portastudio and a boss sampler.
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cerpin
from Germany on 2007-09-09 10:59 [#02118572]
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live series? where can i get these?
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Sido Dyas
from a computer on 2007-09-09 11:18 [#02118573]
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Yeah im with you on that , Madlib use crazy simple equipment and make whole Jazz Albums . Impressive to say the least.
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2007-09-09 11:38 [#02118575]
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live series = live sets. the 2006 live sets. they played the same set all over again every time with slight changes. you can get most of them from the xltronic torrents LAZY_TITLE
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cerpin
from Germany on 2007-09-09 11:42 [#02118578]
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thnx, you are my hero of the day
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2007-09-09 13:38 [#02118599]
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nod osdam is another hiphop producer who has severely impressed me with his skills on limited equipment (much like madlib, the clouddead selftitled is entirely composed with an 8 track tape, boss sampler and a radioshack microhpone.)
itd feel wrong to not mention richard devine in this thread, although who knows if he has any real control over what he's doing :P
also, im sure you guys are tired of hearing me talk about them, but justice have a great feel for their sounds - they can pull, rip and distort any little sound at the drop of the hat it sounds like.
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stilaktive
from a place on 2007-09-09 13:43 [#02118601]
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i think if you gave mr devine something extremely limiting he would still produce some crazy tings.
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2007-09-09 13:57 [#02118603]
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what do you mean by "control"?
AE get deep with sequencing obviously but its whats in the human brain to start with - its the ideas. yanni is a a stellar pianist but he is indistinguishable from any other stellar pianist
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2007-09-09 13:58 [#02118604]
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richard devine likes kyma presets
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cerpin
from Germany on 2007-09-09 14:15 [#02118607]
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"control" means in this context that the artist can not only manipulate his sounds but form and model them. When you listen to autechre's ep7 or confield, or cristian vogel's stuff it sounds like they are not sampling the stuff and repeating but they can form the sounds into any shape they feel like. there are some albums and artists who can do that, and that's the question in this thread. who artists or albums do you know which sound "controlled", not just sampled and repeated over and over again.
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2007-09-09 14:33 [#02118610]
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it would be quite a great idea to make such a compilation where you would tak the "big guys" (afx, sp, ae, devine etc.) and give them, let's say an korg emx-1 or an roland mc 808 only on which they would have to do a track for it.
i wanna add merzbow to this set - come on who else can make whole albums by crashing chairs, recording it and puting it trough a guitar distortion pedal?
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2007-09-09 14:35 [#02118611]
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actually ep7 isn't really a good add. i mean we know that those where the days of algorythmic selv-evovling sequencers build in max/msp. they mastered max maybe but in the sense of your topic rather their program control them than the other way round. i'm very sure that most of those tracks where recorded in the "press play and see what comes out" mood.
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ecnadniarb
on 2007-09-09 15:06 [#02118634]
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steedie.
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cerpin
from Germany on 2007-09-09 15:14 [#02118635]
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you are right. but autechre are guys who know their machines very good, even if confield and ep7 are not the best examples of that
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2007-09-09 15:29 [#02118645]
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im listening to one word extinguisher and am hereby adding prefuse to this list.
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2007-09-09 15:36 [#02118651]
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i heard he made that whole album on an mpc - i don't believe it though.
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staz
on 2007-09-09 15:45 [#02118655]
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go plastic and drukqs, end of discussion
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PS
on 2007-09-09 17:59 [#02118681]
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You are all wrong! Kraftwerk is the obvious answer. They are practically robots.
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PS
on 2007-09-09 18:03 [#02118683]
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Video Evidence
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cuntychuck
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2007-09-09 18:44 [#02118686]
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you're obviously funny.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-09-10 09:19 [#02118744]
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It's "Odd Nosdam". :)
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dave_g
from United Kingdom on 2007-09-10 09:46 [#02118753]
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I would say King Tubby.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-09-10 09:49 [#02118756]
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Good choice.
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2007-09-10 12:53 [#02118837]
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woah, spoonerism. hahaha, good catch. :P
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2007-09-10 12:58 [#02118839]
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drukqs.
untilted isn't my fav release, but in the context of "machines", it fits better
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futureimage
from buy FIR from Juno (United Kingdom) on 2007-09-10 13:02 [#02118841]
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Autechre and Aphex definitely.
Mind... you say control... I like it when I'm making music and I'm NO LONGER in control of whatever in front of me's doing (in a good way of course). I love getting lost in loads of patching stuff, it's great!
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ijonspeches
from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2007-09-10 13:46 [#02118859]
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monkeydrummer
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2007-09-10 13:51 [#02118862]
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Aphex is the best at this. His music sounds like everything he did is not an accident, but still groundbreaking and full of seemingly happy accidents. Does that make sense?
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2007-09-10 13:57 [#02118865]
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the mastering of drukqs is sheer unbelievable. just listen to it. can you hear how much is going on with the bass drum in 54 cymru beats? or the breakdown with the bells in mt. saint michel. my fuckin good.
but actually looking at the fact that he can probably have every gear he wants then i cannot add him to this topic.
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2007-09-10 13:59 [#02118866]
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6u9/BugVision
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2007-09-10 14:00 [#02118867]
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anyone here seen dj krush on turntables?
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esaruoho
from helsinki (Finland) on 2007-09-10 22:32 [#02118951]
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aphex twin, squarepusher and my personal fave, brothomstates
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optimus prime
on 2007-09-10 22:59 [#02118952]
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battles.
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