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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-09-08 13:23 [#02118206]
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Answer!
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_gvarek_
from next to you (Poland) on 2007-09-08 13:26 [#02118210]
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OPPERKLASSESVIN!!!
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misantroll
from Switzerland on 2007-09-08 13:26 [#02118212]
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They're true to me they keep letting black primates coming to work in my country. Fucking non-nazis !
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misantroll
from Switzerland on 2007-09-08 13:53 [#02118239]
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sticky sticky non-nazis booohhhhhhhhhh NON-NAZIS
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-09-08 13:56 [#02118242]
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Do you want hot chicks?
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misantroll
from Switzerland on 2007-09-08 14:00 [#02118247]
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I'm wanting hot nazis chicks !
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-09-08 14:04 [#02118248]
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These two?
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iiiiiiiiii
from Gloucester on 2007-09-08 14:05 [#02118250]
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jailbait!
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misantroll
from Switzerland on 2007-09-08 14:07 [#02118251]
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I'd like beard on them too Druken' but it's also acceptable baby !
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-09-08 14:11 [#02118252]
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misantroll
from Switzerland on 2007-09-08 14:14 [#02118255]
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I'd hit it !!! BUMP :P
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-09-08 14:16 [#02118259]
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Do you want their pussies shaved or with the same trimming as their moustaches?
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misantroll
from Switzerland on 2007-09-08 14:16 [#02118260]
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I want no nigga' that's for sha'
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-09-08 14:22 [#02118263]
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But nigger bitches have really tight anuses...
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2007-09-08 14:22 [#02118264]
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i hope they do
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misantroll
from Switzerland on 2007-09-08 14:24 [#02118265]
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I hope thes die
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_gvarek_
from next to you (Poland) on 2007-09-08 14:27 [#02118268]
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i feel my politicians
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-09-08 14:31 [#02118270]
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That's bad
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Wolfslice
from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2007-09-08 19:40 [#02118409]
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I think the lot of them are lousy political hacks who care more about the power than the issues.
The exceptions to this are Ralph Nader and Ron Paul, neither of whom stand a chance to get elected Prez.
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misantroll
from Switzerland on 2007-09-08 19:46 [#02118410]
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Bill Clinton has been a good "cigarillo politician"
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2007-09-08 19:46 [#02118411]
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i don't feel it, i know it.
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optimus prime
on 2007-09-08 19:57 [#02118421]
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i don't even know who the prime minister of canada is right now.
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cerpin
from Germany on 2007-09-09 05:26 [#02118522]
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that's because they never go shitting
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ijonspeches
from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2007-09-09 05:48 [#02118523]
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i feel the most important issue is not the lying, its the not-answering and tell crap in the first place.
of course they are friggin actors
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cerpin
from Germany on 2007-09-09 06:36 [#02118528]
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it seems to me that honest and trustworthy politicians (they exist!) will never be able get a higher political position cause the system is based lies
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rad smiles
on 2007-09-09 08:33 [#02118544]
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you dont get corporate funding by telling the truth!
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stefano_azevedo
from Pindorama (Brazil) on 2007-09-09 08:48 [#02118548]
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yes. i am brazilian.
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swears
from junk sleep on 2007-09-09 08:58 [#02118549]
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i think most politicians are ok, i like bush, he's commited to fighting terrorism and i'm quite sad to see tony blair go, both good guys.
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mimi
on 2007-09-09 09:08 [#02118552]
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democracy sucks
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swears
from junk sleep on 2007-09-09 09:18 [#02118554]
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democracy is good
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-09-09 14:31 [#02118609]
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Looks good on paper - doesn't work in real life.
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-09-09 14:40 [#02118613]
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The Rockefeller File
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-09-10 09:55 [#02118760]
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Never. Tony Blair never lied to us and I'm sure his unelected successor won't either.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-09-10 10:00 [#02118763]
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What about the politicians of the party you vote for?
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-09-10 10:08 [#02118766]
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They lie too, although slightly less spectacularly/insultingly (as in, insulting to the electorate's collective intellect). I actually believe the third party (Lib Dems) to be the most honest (by that I of course mean that they "lie less frequently", not that they're actually 'honest'), however, I base my voting on policy alone.
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obara
from Utrecht on 2007-09-10 10:12 [#02118767]
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PiS off
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QRDL
from Poland on 2007-09-10 10:17 [#02118770]
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Oh, they'll be back, don't worry. And get ready for more action from the 3PR boys (new team)
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swears
from junk sleep on 2007-09-10 10:24 [#02118772]
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People are just jealous of politicians' power and the hard work they've put in to doing a great job.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-09-10 10:32 [#02118777]
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It's good that you base your voting on policy alone.. so do I, which is why I basically really vote blank (I'm no home-sitter; I do vote, but ideally, I'd vote blank because I don't agree with any of the parties enough to vote for them). However, lately, the most populist right-wing liberalist party has been gaining votes, so this year I vote against them, meaning I voted for the least evil party on the other side.
However, what do you count as a lie?
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obara
from Utrecht on 2007-09-10 10:41 [#02118785]
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so should i start packing my suitcase ?
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swears
from junk sleep on 2007-09-10 10:45 [#02118787]
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lol
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QRDL
from Poland on 2007-09-10 12:30 [#02118824]
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I'm sorry to say, but I believe so. This country is becoming a paradise for masochists and for people with greater than mine distance to life.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-09-10 12:40 [#02118827]
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What's the situation, sklep?
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obara
from Utrecht on 2007-09-10 12:50 [#02118834]
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give me just 2 more years, my friend
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obara
from Utrecht on 2007-09-10 12:59 [#02118840]
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sklep ? hahah
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futureimage
from buy FIR from Juno (United Kingdom) on 2007-09-10 13:03 [#02118842]
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Yes.
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swears
from junk sleep on 2007-09-10 15:19 [#02118912]
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Well, we have to end apartheid for one. And slow down the nuclear arms race, stop terrorism and world hunger. But we can't ignore our social needs. either We have to stop people from abusing the welfare system. We have to provide food and shelter for the homeless and oppose racial discrimination and promote civil rights while
also promoting equal rights for women but change the abortion laws to protect the right to life yet still somehow maintain women's freedom of choice. We also have to control the influx of illegal immigrants. We have to encourage a return to traditional moral values and curb graphic sex and violence on TV, in movies, in pop music, everywhere. Most importantly we have to promote general social concern and less materialism in young people.
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QRDL
from Poland on 2007-09-10 16:05 [#02118920]
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lol
I won't get into the details because a certain obi here gets very touchy when people engage in anti-Vaterland rants, but generally the coutry is ruled by a bunch of altar-boys who used to get pushed around too much 40/30/20 years ago and now are taking their revange on anybody who dares to be slightly more intelligent or simply more happy with life than they are.
sklep indeed
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-09-10 16:25 [#02118925]
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Hmm.. sounds kind of shitty.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-09-11 06:03 [#02118981]
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IMO, One of the worst sort of lies are making something the backbone of your campaign, then not doing it when you get to power, even though the cost to change it would be negligible, or even save money. I mean this in terms of changing laws, scrapping of the proposed/existing systems (ID cards, for example). Not some nearly-impossible to quantify claim such as, "we'll reduce waiting lists by 2 months in the health service." promise that they fall short on (IE there is an improvement, but not as much as they claimed, but in any event, you can measure it a dozen different ways and get a dozen different answers).
The absolute worst is once you're in power, telling the populace something you know to be untrue. All the others can be "justified" (not that it makes it right, but it's more understandable why they do it) as external factors (recession, increasing costs of materials, strikes, etc.) make something you promised impossible. An example in recent history would be the war in Iraq. Irrespective of whether or not you think we should have gone to war anyway, the fact that Blair lied about the reason was completely unacceptable IMO. I was genuinely surprised that there wasn't rioting and that more people were not pissed off about this than they were about the war. Going to war only pisses off the anti-war camp. Lying about going to war (should) piss off everyone.
I treat vauge "promises" like "we'll be tough on crime" that don't really stipulate anything as irrelevant and comparable to the legal entity "salesman's puff", IE the same as brand x washing powder saying "Best formula ever!" on the packaging. Sadly, most people's grasp of policy (if they have any at all) is a collection of these sort of vague statements, eg "labour is for worker's rights", "the conservatives look out for businesses interests", rather than any real policy. Consequently, it's questionable if you can technically really lie to most of the electorate...
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