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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2007-09-08 11:19 [#02118137]
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after such a long time i still think that this is the greatest autechre album ever. it's so full, dirty, organic and complete. it's a rhytm masterpiece. i am still as a music producer by what they do with the beat in xylin room.
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2007-09-08 11:21 [#02118140]
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my god that's jazz my man
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oyvinto
on 2007-09-08 11:21 [#02118141]
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love jazz
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2007-09-08 11:23 [#02118143]
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great great album, but i still think they did it better on confield (although the definition of it is wholly subject, as the two albums were, according to sean and rob, composed completely differently).
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2007-09-08 11:23 [#02118145]
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i feel in the mood for some gilespie afterwards i think
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2007-09-08 11:24 [#02118146]
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oh also, after listening to draft for hours on end on headphones, i can't stand to listen to it on normal speakers - for some reason all the sounds completely lose their depth when not pressed directly against my ears.
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2007-09-08 11:25 [#02118147]
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you know confield is still a big question mark for me - i have probbly never listened to the whole thing at once. dunno why yet. one thing for sure - it doesn't seem so complete to me like draft. especially pen expers cuts into that flow.
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2007-09-08 11:28 [#02118148]
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oh man pen expers is like the most perfect track on that album!
prolly the best ae track ever actually imo. funny.
confield is more like wandering through a strange extraterrestrial landscape. its still the most alien thing i have ever heard.
draft makes it seem like the humans have come back.
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oyvinto
on 2007-09-08 11:29 [#02118149]
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headset is the best for active autechre music listening. and please no mp3 comressed autechres. it completely destorys the autechre.
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2007-09-08 11:31 [#02118150]
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draft 7.30 is so good
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2007-09-08 11:32 [#02118153]
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i mainly listen to draft on headphones, and loud. after all these years i guess i could only wish for more, the songs seem shorter now cause you know what's going to happen
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2007-09-08 11:36 [#02118154]
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mp3 kills bass - there is no autechre with less bass.
i for myself enjoy listening stuff like that on my logitech 2.1 system. they are very accurate when it comes to stereo panning. and the sub growls nicely.
hed: i love pen expers of course - it's a wonderful track and the idea with the sidechain comp on the melody is just pure bliss - but it somehow doesn't fit the rest of the album imho.
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2007-09-08 11:39 [#02118157]
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i remember listening to the rip of the demo cassette a few weeks before the actual release which was somehow slowed down a bit and the tracks where longer.
also the tape hiss added so much.
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2007-09-08 11:41 [#02118159]
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oh before gillespie there must be fizzarum - monochrome today. my god how good is this stuff.
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2007-09-08 11:42 [#02118161]
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haha, yeah i still have the tape rip mp3's. good stuff. my reniform puls is cut off though, its only 30% of the song
the best part of draft 7.30 to me of course is the amazing drum sequencing on reniform puls which blows my mind. i dont know what to make of it anytime i listen to it, its just ridiculous. its just sick.
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2007-09-08 12:00 [#02118165]
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for me the most interesting track production wise is xylin room. i checked it yesterday putting a simple hihat track on top of it - the whole track holds a steady 132 bpm or something like that. there is no time shifting at all going on. fucking hell. it's either a few months on making it by hand or some sequencing trickery i have no idea about.
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hanal
from k_maty only (United Kingdom) on 2007-09-08 12:14 [#02118169]
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Autechre are gay
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-09-08 12:19 [#02118171]
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Yeah, I love the "wooden" sounds in that track, and the stuttering bass lines.
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2007-09-08 12:20 [#02118172]
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its a combination of using swing , drawing notes weirdly, i think. i dunno. hanal is right
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hanal
from k_maty only (United Kingdom) on 2007-09-08 12:23 [#02118173]
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im not gay but id have sex with you.
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jackeroffer
from Aruba on 2007-09-08 12:25 [#02118176]
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mp3 kills bass? are you sure you aren't using a broken encoder?
Draft is my favorite AE album. I recently picked up the vinyl version mainly because of the beautiful artwork included and i was actually kind of disappointed by the drastically different mastering it had from the CD version. A lot more of the layers are much more audible than before but at the same time it sounds like it has way too much dynamic range and not as much compression as the CD. I think i like that very tight overly compressed sound of Draft, the vinyl just didnt do it for me.
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2007-09-08 12:34 [#02118182]
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yup it does
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hanal
from k_maty only (United Kingdom) on 2007-09-08 12:37 [#02118183]
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untilted is a better album FIGHT
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2007-09-08 12:58 [#02118190]
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it's .... different. both are sexy as hell but different.
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hanal
from k_maty only (United Kingdom) on 2007-09-08 13:00 [#02118192]
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very true,lets go to the pub and get fuckfaced.
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2007-09-08 13:18 [#02118199]
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dude you promised me a long hard fuck so many times that my butt should look like the glory hole
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hanal
from k_maty only (United Kingdom) on 2007-09-08 13:26 [#02118211]
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it does..
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2007-09-08 13:29 [#02118214]
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damn you that was meant to be a secret
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2007-09-08 13:30 [#02118215]
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okay okay it's true - i'm actually the goatse man
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-09-08 13:32 [#02118218]
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It'd be funny if they made the stuttery wonderment in xylin room with a chain of buffer override vst plugins. Har.
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jackeroffer
from Aruba on 2007-09-08 13:46 [#02118233]
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cs2x, great avatar i loved that game sadist, i believe mp3 compression can fuck with a lot of characteristics of music. but mp3 compression with the right settings can be completely audibly transparent on bass or pretty much any other aspect of the music. I wasn't sure if you were saying that mp3 definitively always fucks with the audible bass content, if you were its just factually incorrect
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obara
from Utrecht on 2007-09-08 13:54 [#02118240]
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funny enough i lately discovered it's one of the albums i play most often....there is indeed something perfect about it. less rigid than Confield and more precisely structured than Untilted. Which makes the waiting for their next full album more exciting.
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2007-09-08 17:06 [#02118373]
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fav+ from ae.
the whole way thru. ill spare you the time fav+ bits details
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jackeroffer
from Aruba on 2007-09-08 22:03 [#02118445]
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im in agreement with the more evolved than confield vibe, in some ways i feel like Untilted is like a pre-confield. An album they might have released had they done something using some of the Fm synth Techniques from LP5/EP7 and some of the weirder glitchy tripletly sequencing from confield/draft
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jackeroffer
from Aruba on 2007-09-08 22:04 [#02118447]
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i think thats also why i dont like untilted so much, the order of the 3 albums imo should be reversed , can someone go back in time and make this so?
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2007-09-08 22:17 [#02118449]
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i think you're on to something.
confield went deep draft went deeper untilted went ...
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2007-09-09 02:42 [#02118468]
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draft and confield are so deep that you almost have to be careful how literally you interpret it
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2007-09-09 02:50 [#02118469]
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astrologically - untilted is very solar+martian, the tour stuff is martian(mars), totally
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pigster
from melbs on 2007-09-09 02:52 [#02118470]
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i like draft7.30. i like confield. though i never understood why people compaire them. or say draft7.30 is a less good version of confield or whatever.
besides a few comparisions and such, they're just totally different. both amazing.
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2007-09-09 03:16 [#02118473]
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untilted is a techno/dance album compared to draft and confield. in the positive meaning. imo they showed on it that they have a sense of humour. aphex always hated ae for being so serious and dark all the time, that they never even tried to make something happy and upbeat.
now listen to sublimit, to the 4th minute - fuckin disco. or the "break" sample in pro radii - come on it rocks everyone - just look how people wait for it when played live but you have to admit that looking at autechre this might be considered cheesy :>
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Gwely Mernans
from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2007-09-09 03:33 [#02118475]
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draft is aiouweghquoqiweg. there is no word.
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futureimage
from buy FIR from Juno (United Kingdom) on 2007-09-09 04:50 [#02118514]
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agreed.
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vlari
from beyond the valley of the LOLs on 2007-09-09 09:33 [#02118556]
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DAFT 7.30
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2007-09-09 10:31 [#02118566]
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daft punk 7.30
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edga
on 2007-09-09 12:41 [#02118588]
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draft730 was my most cherished one as well but then sean & rob gave birth to untilted
and now i just dunno
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larn
from PLANET E (United Kingdom) on 2007-09-09 14:44 [#02118615]
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I have to say confield is my favourite, even though apparently they used a max msp patch which was stolen from someone. I hope they release an album like their live set there doing now
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2007-09-09 14:50 [#02118618]
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"even though apparently they used a max msp patch which was stolen from someone"
WTF ??
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-09-09 15:32 [#02118649]
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Where did you hear that?
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ecnadniarb
on 2007-09-09 15:34 [#02118650]
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Some professor or something accused them of stealing his patch on the Max forums. Sean or Rob (I forget which) responded in a lot more civil manner than I would. I think the conclusion was that they were inspired by the professor but didn't steal.
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larn
from PLANET E (United Kingdom) on 2007-09-09 15:42 [#02118653]
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i read it somehwere, i will try to find the article and il post it
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