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I quite like the songs on Depeche Mode's "Playing The Angel" album, but the mastering almost utterly ruins listening to it for me. It sounds so squashed and overcompressed and it's got clipping and ugly (as in seemingly accidental) digital distortion at certain points. Bloody loudness war. The new Chemical Brothers album - and I don't really like them or this album anyway - is also dreadfull mastered. And there's many others. It is not good. |
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a lot of time it's not the mastering, just terrible production. |
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some has a very nasty pre-production |
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I know it can just be the production, but with many of these albums (including "Playing The Angel") the vinyl version (which is often mastered by somebody else) or the 5.1 masters don't have the same problem. There is the whole "loudness war" which is ruining the sound and dynamics of a lot of newer albums and has nothing to do with the original production of the music. |
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Yes, it's wank. If the listener wants it louder, they usually aren't maxing the system out and can just turn the volume up. No need to lose all dynamics and run the whole thing through a 1:16 compressor. :/ |
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This seems to be getting increased exposure in the media. I think people are finally realising that CD mastering is getting silly. I very very rarely buy CDs, mostly vinyl, so I still get a pretty good sound fortunately. There's a nice short youtube of it . Thank god for my collection of 70's LPs which were mastered perfectly. It's such a shame people are doing this loudness stuff now. It really upsets me. |
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Of course, at the other end of the Spectrum, I have an Erik Satie CD that is recorded way too quietly and the loudest bits must be about -12DB and you get discernable background hiss when you turn it up loud enough to hear. Still, that's definately the exception these days. Properly mastered stuff on a loud system is unbeatable. If there's a place for post production over compression, it's in cheap, underpowered shitty little hi-fis and the user should be able to turn it on or off. |
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Most versions of the first movement of the moonlight sonata are the same. If you can hear it without turning it all the way up to 10, then the pianist's playin it too loud! |
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Is this the album that's the "poster child" for buying vinyl because it's so crap on cd? |
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digitalism's idealism is imho[tep] an excellent record but digustingly over-compressed. disgustingly. |
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Heh, Alva Part is like that too. Piano music sounds better on headphones though for me and if it was normalised to 0db, it wouldn't be the same. But yes, I completely agree on the issue regarding over-compression. Most commercial albums are utterly ruined in fact. Vinyl is better in this regard. Unless they're cut from the same over-compressed digital masters..... |
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thats a really cool vid, very simple. thanks for posting it. |
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im really angry too, they mastered my lydia album to dizzying heights making the piano sound really hard. much harder than original. unfortunately i didnt notice it until some time after because my volume wasnt high. now i can barely listen to it at high volume. |
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try to attend the mastering session next time. |
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