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offline welt on 2007-08-29 17:26 [#02115859]
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since this is an international board someone who speaks
japenese might be available.

my question's rather simple, though. is it true that there's
no term for "I" in japanese and that u can only say "we" in
that language as a drunk guy in a pub has told me yesterday?
i can't be arsed to google.

this lack of an "I" in that language then is also used to
explain the lack of metaphysics in east asia. while for
instance the state religion in china was confucianism for a
few thousand years, a teaching that tells u to not bother
about gods and concentrate on the human realm europe's
history is full of philosophical and religious metaphysical
theories that had been accepted widely. (now china isnt
japan so there's no direct connection, but a less close
connection nevertheless possibly). well, i dont know about
that. but it'd be interested in the I/we thing.


 

offline nanotech from Sukavasti Amitaba Pureland (United States) on 2007-08-29 17:27 [#02115861]
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"Watashi" (uni)

"Boku" (man)

"Atashi" (fem)

all words for *I*


 

offline nanotech from Sukavasti Amitaba Pureland (United States) on 2007-08-29 17:30 [#02115862]
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kraftwerk's pocket calulator also ascts as an "ipod instant
japanese grammer emersion SEEEEEEECREEEEEEET LESSON!"

*bokku wa dentaku...*


 

offline welt on 2007-08-29 17:30 [#02115863]
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well, that sorta defeats the claim that there's no word for
"I" in japanese.


 

offline nanotech from Sukavasti Amitaba Pureland (United States) on 2007-08-29 17:33 [#02115866]
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any other japanese q's?

there ARE a few nihonjin, and gaijin here on list...


 

offline welt on 2007-08-29 17:42 [#02115877]
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well, i had read that the notion of "the individual" is
"underdeveloped" in japanese language. that was the reason
that guy told me there'd be no "I" in japanese. well,
obviously this is false. but if u are aware of subtelties in
japanese that indeed point out that the japanese have a
weaker concept of "the individual", which is also rooted in
their language, it'd be interesting to hear.


 

offline nanotech from Sukavasti Amitaba Pureland (United States) on 2007-08-29 17:53 [#02115881]
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interesting theory...but to prove it you need to ask someone
who speaks fluent Japanese.


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-08-29 18:11 [#02115891]
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As far as I know, when someone refers to themselves, they
use their own name or those words nanotech listed. This
doesn't necessarily imply anything for their perception of
self; sometimes language expresses more than what can be
translated.


 

offline Sido Dyas from a computer on 2007-08-30 11:16 [#02116104]
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Interesting . Where is Far-East-Monkey when you need him...




 

offline Sclah from Freudian Slipmat on 2007-08-30 11:46 [#02116106]
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Boku ma wakaran

What means it???


 

offline Dannn_ from United Kingdom on 2007-08-30 19:28 [#02116280]
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'boko mo wakaran' means something like 'i also don't
understand'


 


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