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offline thatne from United States on 2007-08-26 13:05 [#02114687]
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without naming names i wonder what you think about people
taking a new innovation in music and running with it, do you
like to hear that done or do you prefer the originating
artist to be the only one using that style


 

offline goDel from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2007-08-26 13:07 [#02114689]
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how innovative do you really think those 'innovators' are?
in the end we're all putting together things which were
already out there


 

offline thatne from United States on 2007-08-26 13:18 [#02114692]
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yeah but when someone is first *and* better at something,
why not just let them do their thing alone


 

offline revpersona from Plainfield (United States) on 2007-08-26 13:23 [#02114694]
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Money makes the world go 'round.


 

offline blaaard from Imatra (close to sky) (Finland) on 2007-08-26 13:28 [#02114695]
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isn't this just how that whole pop thing process works?
someone *innovates* something... and it's being mangled and
twisted and ironed by other artists and finds its way into
youth culture somehow....


 

offline goDel from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2007-08-26 13:32 [#02114696]
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lets say that at one point in time autechre were poor
rip-offs of mantronix. would you tell them to quit if you'd
know they would become what they are now?


 

offline thatne from United States on 2007-08-26 13:41 [#02114699]
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certainly not, but autechre had a special quality that
proved they should interpolate influences from other earlier
artists


 

offline recycle from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2007-08-26 13:47 [#02114701]
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Im not really a P.Diddy fan(naming no names) but the dude
makes ok music, it sells billions, its cool with me.

Its not like 10,000 people here on the board arnt trying to
IDM their way to the top.


 

offline Aesthetics from the IDM Kiosk on 2007-08-26 13:50 [#02114703]
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Homage to me is when an artist makes no attempt to disguise
it.. like The Flasbulb does. Rip-off when an artist makes a
secret of it and doesn't admit straight out where the
influence came from while its so obvious.


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2007-08-26 14:13 [#02114715]
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Good art borrows, great art steals, someone has to embrace
the ''new'' ''style'' and do something different with it. It
would be a pretty lame innovation if the innovator alone
could realize its potential. Of course there's always going
to be cheap knock-offs, but they're of no consequence.


 

offline futureimage from buy FIR from Juno (United Kingdom) on 2007-08-26 15:49 [#02114753]
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I heard about a band who put a little bit of silence in the
middle of a song as a homage to John Cage. They got sued by
the John Cage Trust. It's fucking ridiculous. You may aswell
try and sue everyone for breaking copyright laws when
they're silent.


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-08-26 16:33 [#02114761]
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Musicians should make what they feel like.


 

offline OK on 2007-08-26 16:37 [#02114762]
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FREEDOM


 

offline rad smiles on 2007-08-26 19:10 [#02114774]
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ability to keep it from being bland imitation is a big
difference. being influenced is one thing but when you cant
think of enough things on your own to do etc etc you
shouldnt even bother making music. i mean sure its your
right to make boring shitty music but nobody will care. so
in the end it harms nobody.


 

offline TheDogsBallix from corkadorgha on 2007-08-26 19:15 [#02114776]
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dunno, but i heard the other day that the iraqis are blowing
the shit out of eachother.. can somebody fill me in plz


 

offline rad smiles on 2007-08-26 19:19 [#02114777]
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that sounds hot.


 


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