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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-08-18 05:16 [#02112011]
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I didn't start playing videogames until after the N64 had died. I'm catching up on classic SNES, Megadrive and N64 titles on the Wii, and I really think nothing has really matched those titles since. I mean, obviously I can see that sound and graphics have moved on, but I've had more fun on those older games (and remember, this isn't fuelled by nostalgia since I missed them at the time of their births) than any new blood.
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2007-08-18 05:25 [#02112012]
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Megadrive 4eva
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stilaktive
from a place on 2007-08-18 06:19 [#02112019]
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sound has 'moved on'?
sound now is utter rubbish.
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Fah
from Netherlands, The on 2007-08-18 06:21 [#02112020]
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what, you haven't attempted the ol NES classics? Do it damnit!
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J198
from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2007-08-18 06:48 [#02112025]
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I like the virtual console, but i still think all titles are way too expensive.
I had almost downloaded waverace64 after i read the reviews on IGN, but then i found someone who had the original cartridge. I hooked the n64 back up only to find that waverace looks immensely outdated, isn't all that fun and has NO lasting appeal to me.
Hydro Thunder is far better so i'm playing that again (on n64).
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2007-08-18 06:55 [#02112027]
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Hydro Thunder 4eva
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-08-18 07:21 [#02112031]
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I have got Bomberman, which is damn hardy hard but rather lovely, and I've also been playing that Kirby game, which is also abstract and rather lovely but a little confusing.
stilaktive, I'll agree that those old bleep sounds and music are indeed wonderous, but the atmospheric stompings of Silent Hill and others still impress me even more.
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2007-08-18 07:30 [#02112033]
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Bomberman 4eva
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Fah
from Netherlands, The on 2007-08-18 07:32 [#02112035]
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You should grab the SMB's 1 2 and 3 and mega man 1 2 and 3 (the rest blows i find). I've also played Balloon Fight in 2 player mode, which is in my opinion one of the best multiplayer games ever.
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2007-08-18 07:35 [#02112036]
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Super Mario Bros. 2 4eva
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2007-08-18 14:24 [#02112116]
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Very different for me, even as someone who grew up with this stuff and has great memories making it hard to be objective sometimes. But to be honest, when I go back and play games I used to love, I'm usually underwhelmed now. One recent example for me- where once Ocarina of Time seemed to be a sprawling adventure in an exotic land, now it feels to me like a stroll across some tiny wasteland, too primitive and devoid subtle details to feel exotic. There's few areas of interest and the various subsections of the overworld are laid out in a really contrived way around their featureless hub. It's typical of the effect better technology and its effect on game design and immersion has had on me, I just expect worlds to ''feel'' better now. The dungeons still hold up though.
Similarly, few 2D games have retained all of their power for me. Too limited artistically (except in special cases) and I usually don't find the basic gameplay mechanics very challenging or involving anymore. Still, the really great ones transcend their era, like Super Metroid, which I hear is on the Virtual Console now and I plan on playing it this week. Have you played that?
I still play older games all the time but for me it's usually the nostalgia motivating me, unless it's a hidden gem I missed out on. Too many good memories associated with them. Certainly many of them are still fun and all of them are still interesting (which is why I love that the VC exists, gaming is a young medium is a great history) but I definitely prefer modern gaming. Looking through an early 90s EGM really shows how far its come. People forget that 95% of 2D platformers back then were not creative games, but soulless cash-in crap that will never get a spot on the VC. It's not as bad today.
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optimus prime
on 2007-09-04 15:02 [#02117310]
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i'm playing super metroid for the first time on the vc, and as such i can objectively say that it hasn't aged at all. the 2d graphics are better than a lot of 2d i see nowadays, and the gameplay has the most depth i've ever come across in a game from its era. this game will live forever while 3d games have limited appeal only. even the most recent, awe-inspiring 3d games will look like uncanny valley puppety crap in a few years (to me they already do, which is why i don't care about the 360 or ps3).
exploring the vast world of super metroid really makes me feel like a kid again, exploring strange new places for the first time. five thumbs up.
so far the other three games i have on the vc that i feel hold up really well are shinobi 3, super mario world and the legend of zelda: a link to the past. i'm going to pick up landstalker once i beat super metroid but i'm scurred that it won't hold up well. landstalker was probably my favourite genesis game when i was a kid, after the first sonic.
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D-Steak
from Kansas City, Mo. (United States) on 2007-09-05 14:55 [#02117525]
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You gotsta play Actraiser on the VC. It was one of the first games produced for the SNES and the graphics and music remain luscious to this day. It's a 2-D sidescroller for probably 60% of the game, and the other 40% can best be described as Sim City, but instead of you as mayor, you are God.
And if you haven't played Castlevania IV, do so if for no other reason than the gorgeous tunes in every single level – simply amazing.
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cerpin
from Germany on 2007-09-05 15:48 [#02117540]
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virtual console was one of the main reasons why to buy a wii console. 2D Games are so fuckin awesome, i grew up with lot of them. I hope they will complete the Megaman series there.
Also great: Neo Geo games are heading to virtual console (at least in Japan, but US and EU will follow) for 900 points for each game. Look how expensive the games originally were and still are on ebay these days.
What am i missing though is to take your Virtual console games to your DS system and play on the dentists waiting room or during your poo sessions. Bring that BigN!
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cronenburger
from Ireland on 2007-09-05 16:07 [#02117545]
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paying for badly emulated roms?
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jackeroffer
from Aruba on 2007-09-05 16:16 [#02117551]
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they better up the ante on the virtual console (the selection of games is very small) on Wii or else im probably just going to get my xbox360 modern and just dump a bunch of downloaded emulators and roms on that.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2007-09-05 16:33 [#02117566]
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CV4 is like my favorite game soundtrack ever. It's so damn avant-garde. I wish they'd ditch the animu style and cakewalk gameplay of the modern Castlevanias and make the games dark and hardcore again. The new Rondo of Blood remake for PSP looks like a step in the right direction. But Igarashi is such a fag.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2007-09-05 16:35 [#02117567]
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It's also ridiculous that there hasn't been a great 3D Castlevania yet, the potential is there. In the right hands, it could be brilliant and beautiful. Igarashi is a hack.
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Chihiro
from twins land on 2007-09-15 09:00 [#02120117]
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the VC rules!!! the best game i got so far is "Neutopia 2". it's just brilliantly put together, its addictive, and so much fun!
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jackeroffer
from Aruba on 2007-09-15 18:59 [#02120303]
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castlevania IV does have one of the best scores of all time it also sounds surprisingly high quality for being on the snes.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-09-16 03:20 [#02120409]
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I reckon the team who did God of War could do a good job of it. Belmont's whip isn't so disimilair to Kratos' swords...
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Gwely Mernans
from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2007-09-16 22:53 [#02120623]
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since i own most of the snes classics, i think ill stock up on some of the n64 titles i havent played in years. there are a few snes games i regret selling way back when, like kirby all stars. is that on the VC? I still haven't figured out how it all works. Do I just plug my internet cord into the Wii and buy those Wii Point card things? Or do I have to get some kind of special Wii internet thingy.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-09-17 01:21 [#02120631]
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Wii is wirelessly enabled. I think you actually need to buy some extra bit of hardware to physically wire it in. If it's the same in America as it is in the UK, you should just be able to buy points to get for games using your credit card.
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