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offline chaosmachine from Ottawa (Canada) on 2007-08-07 20:56 [#02109761]
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anyone here done any bicycle touring? just wondering...


 

offline swift_jams from big sky on 2007-08-07 21:12 [#02109762]
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I biked 50 miles one day. I want to do this though,
unfortunatly, I don't have the money to fall back on.


 

offline recycle from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2007-08-07 22:19 [#02109778]
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i love to mountain bike
love it
love to ride all over town
never though on any trips more than 50 miles, about that

but no forest gump, cross county shite.


 

offline swift_jams from big sky on 2007-08-08 10:08 [#02109864]
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That would be awesome though!


 

offline recycle from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2007-08-08 12:15 [#02109890]
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i am awesome you cunt


 

offline swift_jams from big sky on 2007-08-08 13:00 [#02109903]
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I kno, rite? rite guyz?


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-08-09 03:58 [#02110021]
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Never done it by pushbike, but I've done a fair bit of
backpacking and a lot of motorcycle touring and the
principles are largely the same between all 3. I've also
done some proper mountain biking and had to carry/fit
pushbike spares.

On a push bike, you'll want a pump, puncture repair kit (and
depending on the terrain you'll be going over, spare inner
tube(s)), alun key set for your bike, leatherman/swiss army
type multitool, spare brake cable (depends on the bike, but
you can often get away with just carrying a spare rear brake
cable and cut it down if it needs to be used on the front).

Backpacking stores will be a good place to get small, light
tents (I use a 1.5kg 2 man tent that folds down very small)
and compression sacks, as well as small stoves, etc. I
reckon you should aim to fit everything you need for the
bike in an underseat bag (don't know the proper name) with
the pump tied to the frame, then 2 throwover panniers for
your camping/personal kit. Avoid carrying anything on your
back, except for a camelback, and/or fanny pack round your
waist as it's uncomfortable/tiring.

This site is an invaluble resource for packing
light. I really has reduced the amount I carry by about a
third. One other packing tip, "don't carry anything you
either don't know how, or aren't prepared to use". EG no
point carrying an extensive first aid kit if your first aid
knowledge is limited to plasters and bandages, likewise, no
point splashing out on (and lugging around) a tool wrap if
you have no mechanical skills.

Try avoid overloading the bike as it'll cock up the handling
and make braking distances longer and increase the chances
of a skid, as well as being slower/more tiring to ride. When
packing in panniers, put the heaviest, most infrequently
used stuff (stove etc.) at the bottom and front of the
pannier. This will help keep the mass of the bike
centralised and have the least effect on handling. Likewise,
spread things evenly between both panni


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-08-09 03:59 [#02110023]
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..spread things evenly between both panniers, or it'll
handle a bit funny, particularly at low speeds.


 

offline unabomber from Palma de Mallorca (Spain) on 2007-08-09 04:16 [#02110024]
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My Leatherman has saved me many many many times...!


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-08-09 04:45 [#02110028]
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Yes, they're superb, far and away the best multi-tools IMO.
The fact I often use it for real jobs (rather than just as a
portable/emergency substitute) instead of my real 'proper'
tools is indicative of their quality. Last for ever, never
rust, you'd need to make a concerted effort to break them,
etc. They make genuine Swiss army knives seem flimsy and
poorly made in comparison.

I have an oldish one (had it for well over a decade), but
I've never had any need/inclination to replace it.


 

offline unabomber from Palma de Mallorca (Spain) on 2007-08-09 05:08 [#02110029]
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Seconded!

Here's mine...


Attached picture

 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-08-09 05:39 [#02110031]
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Here's mine Leatherman Supertool (original version, not the
'200'):


Attached picture

 

offline unabomber from Palma de Mallorca (Spain) on 2007-08-09 05:42 [#02110032]
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Nice!

What amazed me most was the sharpness of the knifes... Cut
like a katana!


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-08-09 06:22 [#02110035]
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Yes, my first experience of a leatherman was a badly
bleeding finger when I (ever so gently) tested the sharpness
of the blade (as I have done with pretty much every other
knife I've handled, without cutting myself)! They never seem
to dull either, even when you use them for things you
shouldn't like cutting paper. The wood saw is also obscenely
good for its size. I have actually cut through sizeable logs
with it by cutting a 'v' into it using the saw(as you would
with an axe) to narrow it then going into it normally.

On yours, how do you release the blades? Is it a thing you
push in sidewards with your thumb? Mine uses an odd system
whereby you have to partially open another blade to fold the
blades in. If you fold them all out by accident (not easily
done- I only did it to test I could reset it), you need to
use an external knife/screwdriver to 'reset' it and put the
blades back in. In a pinch, you could do it with a
stone/strong stick, so it's not a problem, but it's the only
'imperfect' thing about it.

I've just realised I've never oiled the joints in mine, but
it still doesn't drag at all. I'll oil it when I'm next in
the garage though.

Since using my leatherman (and friends' ones) I've realised
what overkill most of the big swiss army knives are in terms
of features. It's much better to have a few good blades that
can be used for several things and which are good quality
and will never break than something like this
monstrosity.


 

offline unabomber from Palma de Mallorca (Spain) on 2007-08-09 23:37 [#02110196]
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In mine u can open and close the blade alone. When open,
there's a thing in the side that locks the blade in open
position to avoid accidental folding (possibly with your
finger in between). U have to push the side button to be
able to fold it. No need to unfold anything partially.

Also used the wood saw in several ocasions to cut small logs
and stuff from trees... also never oiled mine, and seems to
me the bastard tool doesn't need it...

And wtf's that swiss army knife? Is it for real?
Jesuschrist...

I can destroy any swiss army knife in three months of use...


 

offline unabomber from Palma de Mallorca (Spain) on 2007-08-10 00:15 [#02110200]
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I also remember when comin' back from La Havanna... I forgot
to pack my Leatherman and went inside the plane with the
bastard on my hand bag. And that was post world trade center
shit... I could have killed several people and done almost
anything to the plane.

When we arrived and I went through spanish customs and
scans, the operators where like... WTF is that motherfuckin'
thing? Where the hell do u come from? Me: Cuba! Them: Lazy
crazy bastards!

I had to send the knife thrugh the mail system to my own
house!


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-08-10 03:04 [#02110215]
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The swiss army knife is sadly real. I haven't seen one
that big in the flesh, but I have seen one about half
as wide when I was in Switzerland last year. Utterly
pointless, so big that it negates the whole "compactness" of
a swiss army knife. You could fit a proper big single bladed
survival knive, compact wood saw and a leatherman in the
same space as that monstrosity.

The only swiss army branded knife I have these days is a
waiter's tool (because as flimsy as they are, they're more
robust than most waiters tools). Like you, I knackered all
the other ones I've had. The waiters tool one seems quite
solid, it seems the wider they are, the more flimsy they
are. I also have a cheapo imitation one (that I don't care
if it's stolen/lost) under the seat of my motorbike for day
to day use, but that's replaced with a leatherman when I'm
actually touring.

RE: At the airport, at least they let you post it to
yourself. I had a (minute) antique bottle opener on my
keyring that was a family heirloom and the bastards wouldn't
even let me put it into storage to collect when I was back
in the country. They just conviscated it, in spite of the
fact the 'blade' was under an inch long and incredibly dull
and that glasses/pens are far more dangerous.


 

offline retape from http://retape.net (Norway) on 2007-08-10 17:54 [#02110364]
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awesome


 


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