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jules
from United States on 2007-07-30 19:38 [#02107811]
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so in 20 years or so, who do you think will be regarded as a classic from our time period here in the 90s-00s? i think bands like radiohead and tool will be still highly regarded as well as afx and probably autechre, but maybe boc falls through the cracks...but who is our great artists that will pass the test of time?
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rad smiles
on 2007-07-30 19:40 [#02107812]
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i've honestly never considered this.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2007-07-30 19:45 [#02107813]
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i think aphex and autechre already are regarded classics. and their music will surely hold in 20 years time as well..there's jeff mills, pan sonic..if i focus on electronic music.
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ToXikFB
on 2007-07-30 19:47 [#02107814]
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justice - d.a.n.c.e. will be regarded as a classic
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rad smiles
on 2007-07-30 19:49 [#02107815]
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i really don't see how boc wouldn't be considered important
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2007-07-30 19:53 [#02107817]
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why would you think they're important? mhtrtc will be considered a classic within idm, but boc won't be seen as an important band imo.
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optimus prime
on 2007-07-30 19:55 [#02107819]
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they may not be considered important but they'll still be listened to, at least music has the right to children.
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Babaouo
from Dolce (Monaco) on 2007-07-30 20:02 [#02107823]
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i think in the future artists will take influence to extrodinary fx guitar work of Zepplin and Hendrix, with the cross platformization of Tom Jenkinsons work but with the more technical simplicity and emotional output of Ae.
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rad smiles
on 2007-07-30 20:04 [#02107824]
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i really hope zeppelinish guitar playing dies out asap
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Babaouo
from Dolce (Monaco) on 2007-07-30 20:18 [#02107825]
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I predict a collab of jack white and luke vibert.
or BOC
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mrgypsum
on 2007-07-30 21:49 [#02107834]
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honestly and this is a very pessimistic view, i think the kids of tomorrow wont listen to music or think it is important - it will be geezers like us that keep this music spinning, if someone from the future likes it, that will be the miracle.
but if i think of it in a more optimistic sense - i would hope that certain artists such as drexciya, autechre, and maybe aphex would be considered important to the music during their time, as this is obviously the case. i think the true influence these artists will have may never been known.
think of marvin gaye, everything these days that is remotely rnb is marvin gaye, but who knows this other than a small portion of the rnb music lovers.
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Mr Brazil
from Oh Joan, I love you so... on 2007-07-30 22:31 [#02107843]
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I never think about the future of popular music.
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swears
from junk sleep on 2007-07-31 01:12 [#02107848]
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You will have futuristic soulboys collecting "classic" records by Timbaland and The Neptunes.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-07-31 04:34 [#02107874]
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jules. verne? talk about the future?
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diablo
on 2007-07-31 04:49 [#02107877]
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We are in the future
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2007-07-31 04:50 [#02107879]
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Daft Punk
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cuntychuck
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2007-07-31 05:07 [#02107884]
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no. thats totally wrong.
the pioneers of the genres will be classic; aphex twin, daft punk, tool, jeff mills.. and so on.
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jules
from United States on 2007-07-31 06:16 [#02107894]
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jules verne, lol
i agree with chuck, i think the pioneers of genres will be studied for a long time....i do think that ae and afx are classics but i think that there will be bands like tool, who will be obsessed over and kids will be wearing tool t-shirts to high school in 2020...like zep is today
but i also think that as more and more people are making electronic music at home and the scene becomes more and more watered dow, ae and afx will be highly regarded in 2020
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zero-cool
on 2007-07-31 06:46 [#02107901]
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hi people from 20years into the future!
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PS
on 2007-07-31 06:51 [#02107903]
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Hey, son! Why don't you go down to the store and buy my bourbon and porno holograms like I asked.
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uzim
on 2007-07-31 07:43 [#02107907]
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i think Radiohead will be remembered by a lot of people, Tool by some, Aphex Twin and Autechre only by people interested in electronic music.
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uzim
on 2007-07-31 08:00 [#02107909]
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i may be wrong, but i think a band has not only to be innovative (or, at least, to seem innovative enough) but also to be popular in order to be remembered by many people as a classic from its time... i may be wrong, or forgetting some bands, but i can't think of a band which was overlooked or only known by aficionados in its time and has become really popular now. this kind of situation only seems to happen with painters, sculptors, writers etc.
now of course, if you're thinking of classic in the genre of electronic music and not just popular classic in general, then Aphex Twin and Autechre definitely do have their chances.
i think Björk, Blur and Massive Attack will also probably be remembered as popular classic bands of the 90s, maybe Outkast as well — can't tell for the 00s since there seems to be a lot of "revival" tendencies...
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cuntychuck
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2007-07-31 08:59 [#02107924]
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and p. diddy by the americans.......
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swears
from junk sleep on 2007-07-31 09:06 [#02107927]
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From what i've read about The Velvet Underground and The Stooges, they were considered awful by the mainstream press of the early seventies, then a few years later they were a big influence on punk.
If you look back at Kraftwerk, they were considered a novelty band by some, but geniuses by others. But I don't think many people realised that they were going to be one of the most influential bands ever.
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swears
from junk sleep on 2007-07-31 09:18 [#02107931]
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A lot of music now seems inconsequential to me, too weighed down by it's influences, a feeling of going through the motions, (look at someone like Pete Doherty, how he plays the role of "rock star"). I'm not really sure who is interesting enough to be remembered.
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jules
from United States on 2007-07-31 09:54 [#02107938]
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bands like sabbath from back in the day re still as big as ever...people will never forget floyd, sabbath, zep, dead, etc...i was just wondering if people thought that there was going to be anything like that from our generation....the 80s didnt spring too many big bands for the ages...i doubt people will be rockin men without hats in 2020
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swears
from junk sleep on 2007-07-31 10:00 [#02107939]
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That's another one, Sabbath. Weren't critics dismissive of them originally? Like they were a novelty horror group.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2007-07-31 10:01 [#02107940]
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i was thinking in terms of influental as well..but if you look closer this thread was about what may become classic..and that will probably be robbie williams.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2007-07-31 10:02 [#02107941]
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but again..it depends on listeners. mainstream folks will praise robbie and those interested in alternative music will praise more obscure, influental stuff. same as nowdays.
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Barcode
from United Kingdom on 2007-07-31 10:04 [#02107942]
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The only possibly progression I can think of lies in surround sound, where you would sit and the music would invade you from everywhere. Plenty of room for depth and scope here. Otherwise, now that you can make any sound out of thin air, copy any sound and do practically anything with sound, the whole shabang has hit an impasse.
Electronic music now is a jumble sale, nothing is new, only weak gimmicks.
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rad smiles
on 2007-07-31 11:26 [#02107958]
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i agree with was said earlier, everything is WAY too weighed down by its influences.
people seem way too scared/stupid/uninterested to try something new.
thanks!
rad smiles
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TonePu5her
from lincoln !UK! (United Kingdom) on 2007-07-31 12:24 [#02107967]
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Aphex Twin and Autechre will become classics I belive. I consider Aphex Twin as a classic now though.
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obara
from Utrecht on 2007-07-31 12:25 [#02107969]
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so....shall we close the board, since all the folks waiting for the new aphex holy grail are not fully satisfied/truly convinced of the trueness of
T H E ... . .. _ _ _ t U SS ??
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mrgypsum
on 2007-07-31 15:57 [#02108092]
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well even the term classic is a popular music term, for instance classic music, music of the 50's 60's and such, the golden oldies - so yes robbie williams will be classic,
I took this thread to mean influence, whose influence will artists of tomorrow (meaning artists that will be around after the artists of today stop making music) be kicking around still.
velvet underground is a good contemporary example - also kraftwerk, however they are still around today making music as kraftwerk.
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1up
from greater manchester (United Kingdom) on 2007-07-31 16:19 [#02108100]
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i thought this may be something do with the human league...
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optimus prime
on 2007-07-31 16:22 [#02108102]
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of flesh and blood i'm maaaade.
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mrgypsum
on 2007-07-31 16:57 [#02108113]
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dont you want me baby stuck in my head
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