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J198
from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2007-07-22 14:40 [#02105635]
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recently, more and more magic mushroom related articles have been appearing in newspapers.
A while ago, as some of you may have heard, a young french girl jumped off a bridge after supposedly having taken mushrooms. This was the start of the war. Her parents threatened to sue the dutch government for not having made shrooms illegal to purchase, and claimed her daughter wasn't suicidal, which later it turned out, she was. All this while 17 years old, and for some extremely odd reason all alone, in amsterdam.
The government reacted immediately by promising further investigation and a number of politicians are now furiously attempting to ban shrooms from the shops.
Only a week or so ago a new article appeared stating 'MAN SLAUGHTERS DOG WHILE UNDER INFLUENCE OF MAGIC MUSHROOMS'.
As it turned out, this man had suffered from psychosis and made this story up, according to several psychiatrists who examined him afterwards. Naturally, the damage couldnt be repaired even by clearing this up on the news the next day, as most people remember only the gruesome things which makes them paranoid, dellusional hypocrites.
To back these cases up, another story was revealed about a swiss man jumping out of a window after supposedly having taken magic mushrooms.
The problem with all this is this:
-most shroom related incidents occur among tourists, who drink themselves shitless, smoke large amounts of cannabis, are unfamiliar with amsterdam, unfamiliar with shrooms, neglect to listen to advice from smartshop keepers who can obviously tell when a customer isn't sober, take larger doses than recommended etc.
- investigations HAVE shown that shrooms are in the short and long term safe, do not cause a threat to a person's mental or physical health IF that person is mentally sane to begin with. People who use mushrooms are no danger to others either.
- hypocrisy. Thousands of people die from alcohol each year to name just one legal harddrug. tbc
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J198
from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2007-07-22 14:47 [#02105637]
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It frightens and baffles me that in this country, where by the looks of it cannabis isn't going to be banned any time soon, all this chaos arises all of a sudden over a drug which isnt nearly as popular and used/abused.
Smartshops could possibly be doing even more to inform their customers, but in the end, it is everyone's own responsibility to know or research what you are getting into.
Banning mushrooms would cause more problems than solve them, but it seems like a plan set in motion and an unstoppable plan too. Is it pressure from foreign countries? What is there to gain for our government by banning this substance?
Let me know if you have the answer.
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goDel
from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2007-07-22 14:51 [#02105640]
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i think you're overhyping the story a bit.
long story short: in amsterdam you can get shrooms in just about any souvenir-shop in the city. you can buy these without any knowledge, or information from the seller on how to use them. any moron could buy them. specialized shops are a different story. the outcome of this situation: although politicians know there's a bit of a hype surrounding the situation they'll probably ban the shrooms from non-specialized shops and continue the policy regarding selling them at specialized shops. probably forcing those shops to provide customers with flyers containing info on the do's&don'ts .
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J198
from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2007-07-22 14:55 [#02105645]
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i am only passing on information that has been widely published and talked about. The hype is created by the media, not by me.
article one
article two
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goDel
from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2007-07-22 14:58 [#02105646]
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you made this thread about a supposed war on drugs while there isn't any. you're overreacting, IMO. none of both articles point to a war on drugs whatsoever. take a chill-pill.
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ijonspeches
from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2007-07-22 15:13 [#02105649]
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how do you obtain chill pills, are there shops in germany or the netherlands that sell those legally? how much is a sixpack? any side-effects like poopin all over the place?
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J198
from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2007-07-22 15:14 [#02105650]
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what exactly do you know about this? obviously absolutely fuck all.
On a smaller scale, the same thing is going on here, as in the US: spread of false information to instigate fear and aversion of things unknown. I don't suppose you have any idea how easily people are affected by articles like these. Everybody reads the first one, everybody forgets the 2nd. Go ask random people on the street right now what their opinion on magic mushrooms is and i can guarantee you that it won't be a generally positive one.
This is wrong, stupid and sickening.
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goDel
from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2007-07-22 16:00 [#02105662]
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LOL:
Chill Pill by Futurebiotics
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Warnings: If you suspect that you're suffering from an anxiety disorder, see a doctor or therapist for a diagnosis and discussion of appropriate treatment options.
Not for use by persons under the age of 18. Do not exceed recommended dose. Excessive consumption may impair ability to drive or operate heavy equipment.
Ingredients: Other Ingredients: Dicalcium phosphate, cellulose, stearic acid, magnesium stearate, silica.
Notes: Contains no: yeast, salt, sugar, glutens, dairy, starch, animal products, soy, preservatives or coloring.
Recommended Use: As a dietary supplement for adults, take 1 to 3 tablets daily as needed. May be used before bedtime.
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goDel
from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2007-07-22 16:06 [#02105664]
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Rating: - I Love It 7/18/2007
I was taking antidepressants for irritability but the side effects were awful. I tried many alternatives and "chill pill" really does help. When I find myself feeling agitated for no reason I take one and it definatley makes me feel better.
Anonymous Miami, FL USA
Jeroen, are you sure you don't want to take a chill pill? they really do seem to help.
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2007-07-22 16:11 [#02105670]
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can you get oxycotin in Holland? I hate weed. Makes me miserable. Shame they are banning all the good drugs over there.
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J198
from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2007-07-22 16:42 [#02105682]
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i'd rather take some magic mushrooms than a bunch of calcium pills. Thanks though, you shroom hating bastard.
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Rostasky
from United States on 2007-07-22 21:04 [#02105716]
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I think I remember a study a couple of months ago that actually said that shrooms helped with depression. I'll look for it.
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2007-07-22 22:55 [#02105728]
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mushrooms, what a great loss to humankind.
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2007-07-23 00:17 [#02105744]
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That you abstain from drugs doesn't make them a negative experience for everyone. I personally don't take shrooms anymore, and they have been illegal in my country for years, anyway. I don't mind shrooms being illegal here, but I have no problem with people elsewhere defending their right to consume them.
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Mr Brazil
from Oh Joan, I love you so... on 2007-07-23 00:18 [#02105746]
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I like cocaine.
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Mr Brazil
from Oh Joan, I love you so... on 2007-07-23 00:23 [#02105749]
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"Shrooms" are for juveniles.
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2007-07-23 00:30 [#02105753]
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yeah i shouldnt go to the of extreme of saying its always a negative thing. But you know, im not as innocent as i look, ive been there and done that, i found it to be fairly pointless, and i think a person is better off without it.
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Mr Brazil
from Oh Joan, I love you so... on 2007-07-23 00:32 [#02105754]
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You don't look Australian.
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2007-07-23 00:38 [#02105756]
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i always get asked if im english. even this morning someone was asking me where im from.
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Mr Brazil
from Oh Joan, I love you so... on 2007-07-23 00:42 [#02105757]
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It's the glasses.
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2007-07-23 00:43 [#02105758]
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yeah youre right, i look like a european son
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hexane
on 2007-07-23 01:59 [#02105766]
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i trust bill hicks more than you, no offense :) those glasses look damn fine on you though i must admit
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2007-07-23 06:07 [#02105797]
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thanks mate! no offense taken .. its not a contest :)
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hexane
on 2007-07-23 07:53 [#02105815]
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no harm m8:)> i don't bite
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2007-07-23 07:57 [#02105816]
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crikey!
terrible weather here tonight in perth
the house is getting pelted by the rain and sucked at by the wind
on the telly the tour de france riders are climbing some evil slopes
ive got the good end of the deal right here with my heater :)
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hexane
on 2007-07-23 08:10 [#02105818]
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i tell ya what, the weather has just kept on getting crazier recently. i mean, snow in drought affected areas?
and melbourne winters are usually dread, but am still not used to the idea of degrees hovering above zero in the morning...at least not on the regular basis it has been
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2007-07-23 08:12 [#02105819]
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far out, you guys are really copping it. we havent had much of a winter over here at all, tonight has been an exception.
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Sido Dyas
from a computer on 2007-07-23 08:14 [#02105820]
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Crikey!
What does that word derive from ?
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Sido Dyas
from a computer on 2007-07-23 08:15 [#02105821]
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Crap?
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hexane
on 2007-07-23 08:27 [#02105823]
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mostly Steve Irwin...it's not as common an expression here as one might think, basically it just means "Golly!" or "Gosh!" or "Jesus!"
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2007-07-23 08:31 [#02105825]
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i remember the day steve irwin died. i was at tafe in a class of chef apprentices. one of them told me the news of his accident, and purely out of habit, i said 'Crikey!'
a few of my classmates thought that was really funny, but i didnt even mean it to be :)
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hexane
on 2007-07-23 08:43 [#02105827]
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you flaming mongrel ;)
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2007-07-23 08:50 [#02105828]
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can you teach me to play like sniff and stiff again?
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hexane
on 2007-07-23 09:09 [#02105832]
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haha, we have that ad on at the moment too
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2007-07-23 09:17 [#02105834]
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i like it cause the bald guy looks like my old chef lecturer.
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2007-07-23 09:24 [#02105835]
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just made some killer pasta. yeahhhh boy
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J198
from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2007-07-23 11:15 [#02105848]
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apparently this 'being better off without drugs' turns you into a thread hijacking arsehole who prefers to chat about the weather and steve irwin-land.
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diablo
on 2007-07-23 11:19 [#02105851]
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Somehow I can't see Holland being at the front line of the War on Drugs.
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belb
from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2007-07-23 11:23 [#02105853]
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following that logic, mushrooms turn you into a bitter, hostile little pedant
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big
from lsg on 2007-07-23 11:32 [#02105856]
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it's not a war, it is just politics the war on drugs means to fighting drugs. in holland there's just a debate about it, like people do in a democracy. the only one militant here is you
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goDel
from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2007-07-23 12:58 [#02105875]
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let him fight his personal war!
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diablo
on 2007-07-23 13:06 [#02105877]
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"We are losing the war on drugs". Well you know what that implies? There's a war going on, and people on drugs are winning it!
God bless Bill
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2007-07-23 13:06 [#02105878]
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shrooms are illegal here but anytime i want some, all i have to do is go to the park and look around in the wood chips, or drive out to the country and turn over a ruminant shit pile (when in season, of course). banning them won't stop shrooms from growing nor will it stop people from getting them if they want them. it will just fill the jails up with harmless shroom dealers and put a premium on the price. I agree that it would be constructive to, at least, inform people of what they are getting into before they jump out of a damn window though. But U.S.A. history shows that this war against drugs does not work.
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gyroscope
on 2007-07-23 13:11 [#02105883]
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i can just picture the drugs with cute little shields and swords, marchin' on down a hill.
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J198
from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2007-07-23 15:26 [#02105962]
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the mushroom kingdom is growing ever larger.
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big
from lsg on 2007-07-23 16:06 [#02105984]
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schooms schmooms
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2007-07-23 17:20 [#02106031]
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where do you get the asshole bit from?
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-07-23 19:23 [#02106062]
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Are you sure you aren't addicted? 'Cause you're reacting like the smokers did to the smoking ban.
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2007-07-23 19:35 [#02106063]
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shrooms are basically the best drug ever
all feeling happy about life for 2 weeks after
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HEHEHE
from serious beers (Sweden) on 2007-07-23 20:13 [#02106066]
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i think you should become the politican that decide over that shit man
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